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NFL Sunday on Special Teams -- Should Pats Fans Be Worried About the Inconsistent Stephen Gostkowski?

Dec 9, 2012|

The NFL Sunday gang talk about the special teams play of the Pats - could be a huge factor in the MNF game - mainly Stephen Gostkowski and his struggles this season. Dale thinks he's had a rough year but Chatham and co. aren't as worried about him kicking important FG's. The weather may be a factor in the kicking game tomorrow night though. The guys also discuss Edelman's injury and how that will effect the Pats in the return game, especially with Wes Welker having to pick up some slack now.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

NFL Sunday is presented by cam natural casing franks the official frank and sausage of the New England Patriots. Look for the Campbell -- boxer chair favorite -- KM. Celebrate something. We talked about the offense against the defense and flipped it. We talk a little bit about special teams in the reason I bring it up don't -- there is not to try to be excessively negative but just to tell you what I'm looking at here. Which is a field goal kicker who is struggling. Now is kick -- -- great is like strength is great. Stephen -- -- -- is missing some field goals that are a little hard for me to explain. That's why he's kicker. That they've been Hamlet thing is it kickers. Meant to. And using more on those roads right now on the where investigators still mentally back into. Well he needs to get himself into as a kicker I'm not a kicker I don't know I know we always talk about our kicker than not at the links but whenever this situation happens. That's when you fear that he's -- -- -- that he really has to focus on what he's doing I also think it's being that you just because there's never been a problem with a -- of the last. How many years of senior yeah you know it's just say NA I think it gets more pub because that added I do I -- I think it did these -- the user you know these are slow to kickers go in he talked about it earlier this year talk. Right out of season long slump well he's -- the matter is that he's had. How Baghdad I shouldn't say he eat he missed kicks early he's mr. -- late. Meaning had a stretch in the middle where it was a little better but -- a -- to me as you know I've got pre games that are on our on have a hard time doing business. That they one's fingers you can brag about it. Or do we compare to. Who yet compared to now and testing the hall of fame bound kicker -- -- every day about what he's doing expected this year. How he's gonna how success we've been off six if you think he made -- -- -- -- deal comparing him to Vinatieri would Vinatieri has done for renewing the -- no matter what is going -- Perception reality come always having this conversation. You know I think he's he's an extremely accountable guy he's a great kicker is good where he does. The Arizona -- as the one that sticks -- mean I was the legitimate cost three points we saw the game and -- he took it hard he took it really fair and he dealt with your general good stretch the fall that. Now his kicks the kicks that he's missed this year than five kicks I believe. This this is -- -- at six -- for the year. Tournament fifty ours to a 49 -- care about the exact and and last week's was novels 49 or so forth and hurts so. I have a hard time sort of saying that that's a continuation in the narrative because I was code tours the first the first quarter and it was extremely -- Indian people -- picked it up often on TV bit windy. Fifty yard kick in Miami in the first quarter Timmy doesn't. -- is not a continuation of the sneered about the struggle it's absolutely Yemen account you know he's accountable when he misses a 36 when he misses a 39 of course that's different story. What the was. The kicks that he's here the stretch and I believe with the jets game -- had to have the kick I think it was a 48 yarder at the end of regulation and come back commute of 44 when it. Those were huge kicks those of the times -- his kick had to be made so that they would win the game. I don't think he's got a lot of them -- he's missed crucial kicks so I think his view and usually read his interviews from the week. He doesn't you don't you don't really weigh in on where -- at that time used to review tickers seasons in the broader sense you look back and say you know what. His actual make -- percentages right there with the top -- even now even with the struggle. And he's not missing -- got to have a -- she's only missed one so step back. If he continues to struggle course will be -- be critical blow I think we're not quite there UB fierce critic. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Available street guys -- they tell me how that's different that dead that that if they bring a -- -- on Tuesday and and and Jessica is in -- in the in the same -- that -- and that they're not they're going to bring an offensive tackle did not bring in enough and to talk with -- -- replacing -- Acting award fingers when they bring a guy in the work out it's not for. The time now. It's maybe for later that I may -- but later some may have -- I'm just asking how do we know the difference how do we know that if they -- kicker and on Tuesday. That it's not one of those -- Stephen you know hurt his ankle you know we've got a got a name in the Rolodex and how do we know it's not. In a Stephens missed a couple of England's we really -- we make speculation as usual ain't that that's old is it was the play that was make it critical -- what did you think he's not no I. Think he's I think you security -- -- -- secure right now in his position as the -- for the knowing -- and I think you look at is as sort of a net net effects like you know -- how many hidden yards -- buried by guide to can touch backs -- -- kickers -- to do right now is that as the season has sort of changed. You know -- can account by giving a touchback for an additional maybe five yards deep return he does everybody is expansion -- the end -- though it's also the last month that starts attention so unless he's continued again it's important -- Miami associate pretty kick in Gillette Stadium it is to -- in many other places to go out to -- here. If they bring in someone off the street. Probably could be taken December you don't know what here's here's a good example Indian commuters -- the perception reality conversation -- is given with football. Adam Vinatieri tester texture brings up that and Super Bowl 38 we always forget that he missed too few -- -- -- made. The big when you and it's yup back and watch those those were some. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Did you get to lunch intention right trying to -- right guard -- -- the kitchen the kitchen. Mishap in the day before it into extra his finger. Yeah Virginia right there there are always constant confessional -- I think the point is as long as he makes the big one accounts and he's -- -- piles of all the of the good suffered as the team panel for their considerable weight is. We -- back to compare and in the and in its record shouldn't deport. Confident and I really wasn't doing that and I understand your point that it in New England it's hard not to put it in context of of the guy who I think is a legitimate hall of fame bound kicker. I guess. The golden age of kickers in the NFL now I mean you look at the distances and and the field goals and and that kicks that are being made. And I know that you're saying I'll while sixes is not -- so it's a big number and. But I think the percentage number. Text mom I'm using this techsters numbers as a treatment check here but. Ministers meet 83% lifetime guy discounts Tuesday before and right now for the season so we're not talking about what some dramatic drop off beat we sometimes get caught up in the bubble what's happening. Seemingly a lot lately -- It's Julie walks out there and start missing fourth quarter -- -- on -- -- -- let me ask you another special teams question and that's what impact. Does the injury to Julian settlement have on teams play. In not only today but tomorrow but going for -- -- I think it could be significant and use of very underrated kick return -- punt -- he's been very good at that and he's been very explosive and we can we touched -- that's totally birdies aren't very sure handed him for president consistent I think that's important when -- -- about at all as a -- exactly he's consistent he's he's not a -- you can -- -- -- -- -- from -- use. Consistent good weather bad weather you know which you get when you put back there as far as would you miss and I. EU will be missing a very productive guy. Goodyear bringing another guy in that product and do the same thing -- is there and as workers and you don't wanna take nothing away from Julia nano. In this is the pogrom and drive the former football players crazy is the -- up early. And in this case it was Rob Gronkowski and any blocking and the special teams. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Is I think there's just at the placenta and -- for the war but also in the week -- -- in taos -- I think that it it's it's an interesting -- circumstantial big -- because you have in fear and the and we talk about perception fair -- not. You use a superstar. On special teams. You increase the possibility of him getting in and look to an agreement. But you're just bring them of that argument I hear you but I here's my point oh what is inherently more dangerous about him catching the pumping him catch and an income of fifteen -- deceit and he's -- you had to sing -- the way. So I think. Your point is exactly valid my point is simply you're giving them more opportunities that Johnson are all what we don't hear from -- -- touch is gonna do it -- -- -- I don't know I just I think there's a misperception that there's some sort of greater danger of special teams in the. If you don't feel as they wave their Hamburg you know could have quickly -- native you don't wanna get it -- You don't wanna figure -- Read that that's the only played a cubic -- roll. The ball in the defended his commitment to our -- we don't raise your hand from an excellent okay job much Kevin. -- to use sit there. -- published discover -- -- -- and look -- look -- I can go one of two ways here I can go back there and I can have a guy in Wes Welker going that was going to be steady and consistent. It is going Q in bad weather and good people holding that -- -- while ago. Maybe most problems with the border in question as to make plays well it is what is partygoers bills and acts and we thank you. With guy you think you gonna go away with the existing in did not mutually exclusive if you had to choose between the two. Which direction ago. To what did they had the idea of someone. You know -- -- director via the number one thing is securing the ball you just stop the offense from the third company you do not wanna put your defense back on a football team me about a football for so in the more thing -- ball security. Catching the ball first. -- to the -- a segment as -- you can help plus fifty guy guys just gonna ball secure was no arrests yet which is Wesley you you can do that -- that fear of injuries or cover. And you can do another guy when it's gonna be more treatable Walters also in other -- can medically that you can do was say hey. Morgan we're not gonna do returns this week we're not gonna do hold ups and and vice two guys in the -- -- gunners and try to get return yards were just -- pressure from which means we're gonna go after the -- And try to pressure bad ball. Fair catch and either block it and make it a fair catch because you'll get a shorter points so there are ways around this if you if there windup and six man in the box and try and hold Olympic long returns. You know and and you didn't you do believe that to -- arrest for whatever reason. That would debate but you would not go that way. He's mean there was it was a situation. Back when I was doing patriot games and were still practicing at Bryant. And they were holding joint practices the patriots in the New York Giants -- who -- and Bill Belichick Bill Parcells was coaching the giants and I remember the -- on the field. Getting ready to a joint practice session this was when members of the media could actually be out on the field watching stuff. And Parcells has busting on Irving Fryer and he's just kill them. And nieces -- you better hope you never get traded in my football team I thought he says because you're gonna spend the rest of your career and he puts his hand up in the fair catch. The most she's gonna spend the rest of your career doing this in other spirits -- just given a hard time right but it gets back to your point about being able to control things. Bill Belichick -- mind. If you got that hand up in the air he's that's San Juan Kevin want to run without that you never gonna do that is a good offense with the ball. -- issue here all dressed as she says the difference our punt return as he's running straight into eleven guys -- receivers only facing two or three Watters the problem Dexter. The only did it by two or 311 don't contact you in the -- the issue is. I'm actually that job -- to be one of the guys -- contact them. It's very frequently not a hard hit on the punt returner because is the hardest tackle in space on punt return you're just. Saying a prayer Jesus you're so happy you got the -- underground peninsula green space you -- -- frequently don't see Beckett and if you -- see big it's it's from that Gunner. And not throw up and correctly so I think you'll be well schooled on that.

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