Mustard and Johnson talk NHL Lockout with WEEI.com's DJ Bean

Mustard and Johnson Craig and Larry's Sports Radio WEEI. I'm Aaron -- just practicing for a couple minutes here will get back to the phones and a bit 617779. Seven and 937. Larry. I got some a very sad report. This just stand WEEI dot com according to multiple reports. The NHL and the players association will not meet this weekend after negotiations took a turn for the worse. On Thursday night I'm against Steve Burton on the line I -- -- my body Scion actually don't have Steve Burton but we have somebody battered DJ being from the aforementioned WEEI -- counties the hockey reporter and writer. And good morning DJ. Hey guys I do indeed how how bad you feel hurt Steve Burton because for awhile as -- -- lack of a for about a series -- there. You will look like you can have your right. Well leg again I think you live by this group he would -- by the -- but I think in his case. The people on the -- don't even know what's going on so I don't know how much you can fault him. But the the first course and -- for you from a layman's. Term using a layman's terminology pleased. Tom why. Is the league where it is right now what happened. What happened is. The league and the players did something that they probably should that a while ago this week and that would. And the revamped their approach obviously what they've been doing that would -- Everyone. In each earth hour and they go out to the -- certain. Talk you know what about one another that wasn't working so you repair the approach be kicked carried that in and Donald Fehr and there -- essentially. And perhaps it did interestingly they -- switched up the owners that were present these up -- own orders only meeting and they brought in. Guys from the penguins are the -- guys and the lightning. Who were probably more inclined to get a deal done that a guy like security Jacob who obviously you guys know from being around here. Is. Perceived as much more bottom line guy. Those negotiations actually work really well. And the owners moved quite a bit from work hard and then. What are -- four record a lot of optimism that the curtain raiser and nobody was talked about. But. Essentially. After those great -- content they want the proposals start to get exchanged on the land they cut would be orders were almost. Flabbergasted that their movement hasn't been received as well is. They would have hoped for example. Eighteen so far -- -- about ninety million dollars on Nicole provision which essentially is. Saying to the players since -- -- to the -- it revenue -- is going down we're gonna give you that this money to offset that. And owners also about time to 300 million dollars so -- the -- but it's got movement itself -- -- not to get a deal done. When the players responded to what essentially were particularly -- offer a powerful -- their -- that's what he's got blown up. And that's worthy owners started Q they all things about the weekend poll of the players -- orbit is to be scared of them doubles here. In very very difficult to read you think that you want one thing and then once he gets that that he wants something else so. I'm really surprised at that 'cause he's never have been involved and in the hurricane hasn't anyone other negotiations -- a professional sports but that day or what is the hitter. He's brought you -- -- don't we are actually quit but -- -- in simplest terms. What are they fighting about is it about the revenue sharing. Is it about the it too many teams who need the the expansion teams in need to support from the that the from the -- so they -- as -- try to compensate. What is it that they're the main issue they're fighting about. Well and look at front street and most especially after all that happened this week. They're not fighting it -- -- -- essentially the money Iraq has been pretty much agreed upon. Yet the players like what the owners have done that aren't they -- goes all the money. -- news for the most part seem dirty and squared away with change it up right now is that the owners are. Driving it pretty hard bargain on three point that quite frankly they didn't think the players would use that big deal. -- -- Comport excuse that the link of the year contract some of the of the PDA with the owners wanna -- -- you're an opt out for eight. There and date and that you said the bullets that contract terms they wanna be no more than five years. With seven years with the Euro guy now wouldn't it be their proposal that was hit in those with a three point that. You're taken these football but we're giving you -- gonna be the EPA. The players responded saying they wanted to see that term of the CD eight to be eight years with -- opt -- after six. And they wanted contracts -- to go as long it's eight years to me I'm very surprised. That meeting somewhere in the middle this week there are no that the owners have said that. That's -- still die on as far as contractors goes the whole side your limits saying it to be honest. At this point I think you all have to start siding with yours there here's something like forty players in the league contracts longer than five years. They're they're -- -- -- 750 guys I think that the deal with Donald fair to say. It we get them to move to six years now we can take the deal so. They're really really close on a lot of fund the most important things but it's it's three issues right now that are it's the -- -- get back on the ice. To be out through the idea a little bit of popsicle had a -- thing that -- per mutations and variations of all these components. Obviously. Hockey fans all they wanna -- bottom line they wanna see some games Bettman talked about. 9495. -- remember well they did play. Forty games that year and he says anything under 48. They will not have a season how how much do you think that will actually play into negotiations over the next several days. Well. Are you when you get a guy here the wildcard. At the wild card all along normal here's Campbell when -- -- and you're involved you know. -- with the players tired and -- actually said. We're not messing around we're not indicate we're not gonna take whatever your offer I think. There a law allows that to our to our terms of course. So. I think that there are a lot of players. Are prepared to go through with. It's -- even think about it another lost season. -- -- It would seek some really heady stuff for them to not come together based on how close they are not what can be overlooked I know that everyone's looking yet. Oh are they close so they close and then we see it blew up on Thursday L no doubt well enough to be ordered the -- everything off the table. I don't buy that for a second they pulled everything off the table I know -- a lot of pressure. From a lot of the owners -- assuming that led by Jeremy Jacobs a mean. You'd have to assume. For -- to pull the old Nicole vision off the table if that happens in the older people talk about the Nicole. That's when you start to worry what they lose the season but I think since that's been offered that essentially been agreed upon. From the players' side. I think it's just. Like I said a lot of heady things that a lot of childish things but I have to go down and not come together but that they really are. Very well. How does this affect the television deals that they had that that the major the national networking contract that they did you have. -- because that the major networks haven't really gone near it to who might -- at the National Hockey League NBC's carries and games but. How does television are they reacting to all this has anybody pushing outside. Of this negotiations to get something done. -- -- let's remember that episode of the wonder years where I'm at the grandfather built in the car for a dollar yeah. How could anyone forget. That's essentially what the -- as with the with with NBC if there's no season this year. Yet until the order without money for the end of yeah he'll. There'll be something I don't know for a three year but like an incredibly. -- here. Or at least he that would be added on the server that you'll. They're still making their money out there and the border -- that would back to bite them but there should be some pressure. -- -- Like you know you talk about TV and in in this discussion -- the going -- for years DJ differences NBC with their two stations. The the regular broadcast network at weekends and 865 -- what was that the old or -- was -- -- -- what is it personal -- you'll notice I didn't mention recollect -- remember -- -- which is now the NBC sports network. They're not paying the kind of money that the particularly football isn't. To a -- that and MLB and and the NBA is so in that revenue just isn't there that the revenue sharing in the National Hockey League was less -- 11% it's ridiculous. Yeah the and like like I said I mean there's pressure to -- -- there isn't. I don't know I think that when you look at this. I know that it is in great is or is. The deal with the leak as with with NBC. But -- better than it was in 2004005. Because when they added that lot goes right out when they were still negotiating with yet you aren't sure obviously -- -- I think it happen and that's why. Your account you can see our -- theater either HL games there's a lot code or occasional College Hockey game so. At least he's do you have that pressure there that didn't do during the last flock of electric without being said. The fact that you're still getting paid right now at least kind of soften the blow. Let me ask you this we gonna have a 9495. Vernal floral five what are we gonna have here. I think -- -- -- before 95 actually not I repeat to give up what they. A pretty interesting idea I think -- came up with that because Canadian and but. He was saying instead doing the lottery for the draft like it a lot -- -- locker face to do lottery for the playoffs and Berman I'll probably get between that's complicated question. And I. I you know I I am a very honest about this if they displayed the Stanley Cup play as a -- a much bigger hockey in the regular season as a long and winding road is that it is I don't mind 48 but he started up with a into the playoffs I'd be a very happy viewer I can tell you that. I continued. Keep watch on this thing we'll get back the hopefully when we're little bit closer to a deal the -- Our thanks to you today DJ being ours our hockey writer and WEEI dot com on Sports Radio WE.