Kirk and Pete on the AL MVP Debate -- Cabrera vs Trout

Cartman. NFL Sunday. Follows us. -- that's your question -- again just years ago despite the baseball -- and yes we'll talk more football against the Celtics as well but at W board -- from the teacher known to say about looking at some of these. It Texas and they were predictably gets a -- asked about you surprised how easily Miguel Cabrera won the MVP award which route. He's blew -- in this segment. -- walked Albert. Let's showed. I did. It all and why did I was the one problem. For him. Public talk on. Active here I didn't listen to this Thursday -- -- -- the apologists that's captured the real people get -- later. Won the MVP award -- to yet one he says he might. Follow he -- yeah yeah we talked about -- half -- now while masking a different audience and a sixty inches you know you have your your diehards that that -- listen to the states cult following MarketWatch expecting a six point two. -- -- Like to play leaves them we take over I -- -- -- guy -- I can already sent out I just think you can -- -- -- communicate both by our committee and -- that it asserted before that one couple shows that did it. I just think -- something has been done four or five years were Pittsburgh today that he deserved Zardari -- plenty of arguments. Which route be in the all around better player in the saved match numbers all that stopper again I'm sorry. By the dark -- -- I've what's I was surprised by how big -- big -- want -- -- that's that's surprised -- turnout it's turnout to be one of these things sort of been outbreak and to generational divide right if yours yet it is forty you have to and why why does it have to be that guy does it have to be that al-Qaeda vote. I would have voted for trial but it would've been this idea that. You know. The old school crowd that says -- Triple Crown -- -- -- vote for him. In his sort of the key lock provinces is ridiculous double for anybody else to try out now people these guys are tremendous season and I'll say why and potato reason why give Cabrera a slight edge. And does its rhetorical season -- posted Cabrera was phenomenal awesome number model ready to make the playoffs and upping it -- the playoffs. Things might maybe things one at a different out of that is that -- ball out I'm saying to -- -- -- it unbelievable September ninth tiger -- -- anybody vote for Cabrera on a problem with I would vote for trump. Really really close I think I do think the defense that based on its back close introduce -- -- defensively yet that is what but yeah I don't have a problem I think people. It's crazy here these people both sides -- Jerry the next morning reasonable keep flawed is talking about half of it's one of these ones were it's not clear cut this is not Pedro being robberies is not leaving via now all that matter right times the stuff the bothers me more is when you see. You kinda go down into the website look at these -- one guys Johnson that are both guys Jeter's third. One guy has Ibanez and does not condone what I mean it's just like that that would -- I guys how do you get -- get votes of people did his. Don't it'll take it seriously enough -- to store two stores -- that thought were pretty good bit there were big did you guys vote for Trout. Where don't serve on this one I -- Cabrera won't struck Eric Wilbur amusing I've had some moments with. I -- to pieces of boston.com about the indeed -- and Sean. Who's one of the voters here Boston cab -- before I -- had a really good reason down the middle piece about I thought it was it was it was a pretty well. Are written thing but yeah I think it's one of those ones that it was a coin flip -- if your argument is you won the Triple Crown in the team in the playoffs tried to make the playoffs. And I can understand I -- has won more games. Up at the truck was more valuable to his team. It's it's definitely you know have a doesn't want. I remember him. On the big show -- the year -- planned a year that Pedroia won the MVP we had a right Iran from Texas to the name escapes me. Immigrant ever grant. And it didn't happen dry on the ballot right. The top -- didn't have him on the ballot we got a money out port we destroyed them. It always been a nice way has ordered him there or what I mean he his logic was beyond stupid. Anyway I remembered -- say -- -- -- -- -- Mike -- as it is as wrong as anyone can be a I mean it was just rock his logic there was no it was just have to want it was just anti Red Sox hatred or yet like it was absolutely no objectivity involved. What so ever I mean none it's -- it's guys from the twins and let -- and over major one right here in an at large team to. George camp. -- -- if you -- get this sort of sense that note and it seems like we had I guess to Ricky Vaughn was going crazy about this and that he -- is equally inflexible. As the old or older generation is about the the -- because I mean I -- system -- do embrace. I would bogey I 45 years old I embrace at all -- -- -- -- -- -- younger -- I I'd love it I mean you have to look at these numbers I think we knew what would you do have to -- the other stuff as well I wish there was some sort of marriage of these two schools is sort of Saber metric in my ball proper is that. That's proceeds there's no money bald -- used to sized notebook craze of people vs everybody that I don't they pull up what they did this year right outside big swing. Back the other way and I still contend that if an actress Hernandez in game five they would bring in the World Series and wherever they would have. A much better flight. I had a tigers did and the tigers -- against him Cisco would really pushing deceit by no problem -- ago. And that is pretty clear. All optional -- no doubt no doubt about that it was a -- any sort of generational divide that we saw -- -- have to be that way while everybody just today it's a little this little of that that's why. Can't be too extreme it's like everything else in sports particularly forget like when -- sports people overreact. One way or the other. It's a public company it's got -- got to -- -- middle ground here is I think again got that would Shaughnessy couple weeks ago roared about how people booed Matt Cassel because of blocking in the world. Mean this is sort it out and I -- but I mean it's idiotic but you get that each of people who war. Census to a younger group coming in trying to their property. And that younger generation is real offense because you'll generation what was that it's it's a classic -- -- -- sides of that that have some apps appoints typically they're put the Russell. Here's -- -- and and that was you know ten years ago I was not into you know the big bloggers and all let's stop from that was kind of a -- about it -- was it could have been more wrong. Could have been more wrong. And there are so many good bloggers out there crap you're still Democrats want to know that there are no accountability is in there and go on he can say whatever you want but I think if you look around at some of the blogs some of the web sites out there there are some really good disciple interest and stop. And it out that despite being not being able to form maybe some personal relationships that Robin summit of the group he -- -- -- here can do when a clubhouse and I understand all that. But the access is that you get access to anything now the press conferences all the basically everybody has access to what the general -- to the -- No it was not good and about LA -- I want this now right today digits and I grew aquatic it's in the press box I better I bet right you could. We are better off I believe this truly believe this. You're better -- -- -- nice PBP ten feet away from the TI -- laptop in front of you watch the game back and forth this many times you want. The Washington press conference after the game -- players and nothing awkward anyways and doesn't matter you better. The -- home are better off than people in the press box. You -- I totally agree unless you know it's it's it's it to me and I got a couple of pages back and ethical all the time. And run down the street -- -- for you guys and we're so set up at all all this -- it's a pain in the it's a great job to be well it's fun it's a great job. But you really with very few exceptions are you hearing anything different than what corrected but please register in front television. And all everybody want to hear from is there -- -- all the questions usually what you know you mean I get the answers that you like. But usually all the relevant questions are asked to -- despite what you like this reporter don't like that report that your. So you can form a very good opinions without haven't -- there on a daily may not get the insights up. Who's who really hurt or who's left on crutches -- that kind of stuff but I think it out the people who are. Some of the older riders and I can go that -- -- newspaper Baghdad radio and -- -- -- from the -- DuPont and Shaughnessy who were it to me I think artists I think -- -- -- -- it 5000 -- there there are -- there's some -- repair a lot of good people up there and have access to just the same automation and information as we do. And and a lot of times a picnic a lot more sense that some of the people look down there every day to be Ali. I didn't and yes I -- do you get these sort of relationships in this kind of stuff and I understand -- to do if you're on the beat I get them sometimes our people. Remove from it a better perspective and every.