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Tim Kirkjian, ESPN, on the Blue Jays-Marlins trade and the state of the AL East

Nov 14, 2012|

In the wake of the huge deal in Toronto, Kirkjian joins D&C to sort through the madness that occurred during the firesale in Miami. They also delve into the Red Sox so far this offseason and how they'll address their needs in a weak free agent market.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

The baseball world is all abuzz about the big block after -- to be finalized later today between the Marlins and Blue Jays -- 64 million dollars and change in salaries changing hands. -- and he has yet joins us on the AT&T -- AT&T forgy LET. According to Ari John Jerry Boston. I really feel sorry for the people in Miami who were pole last year or get -- news dating. We're gonna build a team that you -- we're gonna win a whole bunch. I'm here get on board as we have the money and we're going forward. Bad -- turn around and got the -- team and now they. We are -- over. And I am sorry if I'm a -- Ticket holder I have in my. What do we do it here what have and it is great promise that you may. The other hand you look at the blue Jay is something that I wasn't. Aware. On that -- -- owners of that these Rodgers. In the mile high billion dollar corporation. They can do what ever -- Juan financially and now the year's blue gave the dead. We haven't been in the -- my 93. Time for a win what do we have to do to win they have to go out in me and get immediate help and they did that we. -- -- -- And an everyday short. So they have put them selves at least for me right in the middle of -- race in the AL east. That is certainly the doors open in their division which rarely is. It is not half. It is there anything more nefarious going on with Florida marlins' other than they rejected three million fans in their new ballpark and got 2.2. They lost about forty million dollars is it just that's simplest why they've made this. This decision so quickly. I think it is and maybe I'm missing something here but I know when they made all these moves last year. Early and re entry bell a lot of that said where is this money coming from didn't have any bottom. You any. Hopefully you have more money than anyone here it is the Lance. We're gonna win we're gonna -- the ballpark every night. All the revenue from that is gonna pay for all the gallery and yet people were telling me he's 200 in finding a way better than I do. It might not work. Literally not work and now they have got that the payroll the point where it'll -- have one contract. They are paying a thousand or. 2000 he alien to players making over two million dollars well here that you read that it was. In today's any -- and can get down that well and usually when you get it down that low it. We really did say the media. -- -- Reyes and Johnson spent their entire careers in the National League we know early. Has been in the American League but he's been terrible against the AL east to rethink that these three guys just focus on these three guys. Can step right into the AL east and succeed in turning 73 win team into a contender. I'm great question Jerry and. You know I'm. Know gonna need to see -- I have no doubt that Reyes will be a dynamic leadoff. There's no doubt in my mind that he and we actually I let that fool ourselves our pitching. -- certainly see the -- really -- that we use now and it is a gigantic -- Anyone on the. On the nationally and yet Mark -- is off thrown -- injured even though he's a great idea of what he's doing. He makes the day in the middle of late he's gonna get pounded in the elite -- And catch up with a guy that I'm still not sure that I can tell you balance having seen -- -- That is that nobody could hit that guy right yeah. He hasn't been right or you know -- the last couple years he -- fertilized and then last year he was healthy and know that not. -- I don't need the. How well these guys do in this division and again that vision is. Actually what it. In three years the Yankees are in trouble at the moment reds doctor is obvious. Can't imagine Orioles being as good as rated that were last year winning the same way that they did. The rays a lot a lot of players begin to create it and that's why David doors open not because everyone did Toronto is that great as everyone else's bacon. Or clearly be the Jays have. Everything now I think it's. Manager I mean they have any money left over for manager who's gonna manage these guys. Well that's a good question I check. Course last night on who's been around this team and my guy pulled me well it's going to be a lot more people interested in this job as -- that there were 24 hour. I source -- Mike and Tony is the leading kinda. -- Phil Jack built couldn't take it Phil Jackson wants the job. This that the very interesting team now and they will fine manager and they made it clear this guy does not have to have Heatley. But now that you've brought in all of this talent and brought all of this money and you have now raised yet Asian. Yet in the hired in run you would think logically they'd better go get but he add a little experience. -- the both these -- never managed in the big league. They've been there and OK you take care of the that I think maybe that dynamic of the manager change. A little bit the last 24 hours to forget them and who knows how to deal immediate deal was that age. And merchant in every mega deal as you know ball oftentimes the team getting a lot of players. -- their team. Have to take a player they don't necessarily want who's the guy in this deal the Blue Jays have to excuse reference. Well John -- their catcher. He's really struggled in order in the last year and they needed to move him along and it gave them a him. Million dollars with them in order to be one of their back -- that I think. You're ending this kind of money you can handle a million dollars that way he knows. That I. Player then you -- my goodness we have in front of more interest in question. What are they gonna do in Miami was now at the bar -- level is. Ordinarily -- in yet another team for him. And I know the Jays really frustrated by his lack of focus much like the rays were. We're really disappointed in his lack of well. I think. We from the people like that where you have to go to Florida and play second base or third base so -- area. -- -- -- -- Young short. A lot Iglesias and am going to be terrific defensively I think you have to -- short out for the Marlins. And they're gonna find another place at the bar and they're gonna have to get it -- -- not properly. And BB. With a player that he. I just read the eye black he -- I love Fidel Castro and -- -- issues hey pass the bar aside used their value in and navy's prospect at the Marlins got Azeri superstar. In the making in that -- him. Well yeah I checked again but my guys last night and this is -- and nickel Leno is on hold my and the pitchers who is. At the Blue Jays did not one part when I had to do so in order to make this deal and again if the deal for the long term. For the Marlins obviously and that Leno with one of their three best pitching prior. And so was. The other guys out beanie is another of the I was told that three to wrap it in my guy wonder how many of these guys that we now. We gave up two very that you know but with baseball guys noticed how many times we here it is Corey. He's been able always even -- and it. Serialized in the -- Nearly as often as in other words -- very well. We'll see these guys work out and I know I was told late last night quickly you know the one guy we don't like you. -- Tim bench area and has like a hundred million dollars this and do you have any idea how weakens and. Jerry I don't I look at their roster the other day I do these I do my roster book every early November to -- -- on what. Team anymore he's -- mercker get traded again -- ample you know what I mean. A rock for the right guy again. What they have a lot of work. And then when you look at it. Creative players available. Is not a real got it threw me a half to get the first day that way. Get over paid for Adam LaRoche to bring you mean and then in his work for the red I mean it. Good good players won a gold glove anymore -- they first base in the league black in the Major League last year that. Even guys and how -- the Red Sox were a bit late to contention a lot at though there's a lot of holes to -- The Red Sox and not a whole lot of free agent. -- -- -- You think Terry Francona is doomed to years of mediocrity and cleavage and -- think he's having second thoughts and maybe -- should've waited at Toronto Blue Jays. I gig looked pretty good right about now. Yeah you know I I think that Terry and I talked to a long time the World Series I think he's. We leave -- -- where only he is very loyal guy you know you love these organization. Back. Father played there in Ottawa that -- Is there that there are what they -- often. -- me even in a weak division how they're going to be tiger or anybody yell into it. Gonna be awhile I. He's gonna. For the long haul. And yet sure altered the managers -- well Toronto. Better today but I don't think -- work that way I think -- February is but he also knows. This is gonna take a little while to get him. -- have any sense of where Josh Hamilton ends up and -- heard from anyone anyone that. Red Sox -- interest that. I've not heard the Red Sox and you know fellas I check with the ranger people who know him better than anybody and they put it to me it's. Q how have the perfect situation you get that out and you have to have -- the -- That or -- there's always the chance. Not that bad in half it was in the action situation which is flat so everyone awhile. Poll that you can't and it is too big of a market says it will overwhelming. To me off you pay -- bar. Can't bowl and then all of a market where. -- -- -- in town and everything revolved around him that's not gonna work either you have to find that middle ground. Where he might be the most talented player I've seen that there are all around him. And that's what the Rangers have you find that perfect situation that your. Out there. Milwaukee does me a lot of then there are guys there that know him from the and they also have these ones are that you -- Ryan brawn where where -- -- would not have to be the ball point every. He is ESPN's Tim -- and as always good stuff that we appreciate the information on the conversational talk you down the road. Okay didn't hurt you with Dennis and Callahan on the AT&T -- AT&T forgy LT -- as well I'm here because Bobby Valentine the -- nobody think dad and even make a splash -- Would that work yeah if you need there they'll look to change the perception that we can go on to capture the market while you know while the Maple Leafs are locked out. Obvious talent that man is that it has the potential however to set US Canadian relations back fifty years that -- other way got -- number -- rebel. There today was just. Or -- percent you can players have to go from Miami that. -- on the taxes and federal taxes state that all that. Were in mostly. For 18%. And appear. You know your remark earlier make it sixteen million a year. The math that means Josh Johnson is leaving as soon as he can yeah he's a one year early. 30. At their they'll be -- even on their mind their own a better team they'll. Awful lines opened 6177797937. Will be right back.

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