Greg Wyshynski, Yahoo! Sports, on the NHL lockout

Its our Jim Butler not three point seven WEEI we'll get back to all your phone calls. On the baseball topic start the show winning hockey update. Being told over and over again how big of a day it is -- the National Hockey League. And Greg we -- ski -- daddy Yahoo! Sports does. Really know does a better job in those guys in terms of keeping your form but also. -- can make your head spin or some of -- lockout stuff and guided our guy Greg Rusedski joining us on the ATP hotline AT&T four GLT. With speeds up to ten times faster than three GT TP rethink possible. A last year Greg is this as an important a day as summer saying it is for the National Hockey League. It is that it's even more important paper the National Hockey League players association -- if they come back with a counterproposal. Basically undercut her or. I completely ignores what NHL without the week -- that we're looking at canceled games are looking at. And out prolong blocked out there there is an opportunity right now the cut a deal. And the question is what they're not what -- NHL put out the week is going to be palatable for the players. And also you know the other underlying thing. I can make it over their bitterness and their and toward Gary Bettman and the owners to actually cut a deal on October and not try to make you can't let a little bit. One of the things and a few days back the day before this -- of team now the NHL holding that focus group bright PR. A lot of people view is this is this a PR mole or just a good deal in your mind. It's not a straight PR move and actually I'm glad you brought the focus group because what would that came out you eat -- -- Higher flight one it is focus group people election can it be something significant so. When I saw that you can't come out the first my first thought that DNA children become strong with an offer. They want the man that you expect. Dictation they wanted to manage what the react in the player's going to be. It wanted to -- the direction of the ban is going to be and that -- significant and he had always been what you could be quicker eventually go we all thought that it could be later in the process November December -- like that to become the heat that you've crossed the board. In the share revenues in -- deal and then you know they they -- probably closer toward the players wanna be on revenue sharing. They -- Donald -- and they edit and NHL PA. Some room to negotiate on term of contract and but like that and they can look good treatment local -- mile beat a lot of really good things that deal. The question is whether or not -- are not adult -- And it's all PR rate at all in the debate that kind of thing so they can pre prevent the fans. And opera but can maintain an 82 game season and get it back on the -- November 2 and -- -- pure stroke of genius. But at its core I think it's been offered will be to put out there it is increased aid to try to get a deal done. In terms of the 5050 revenue split help me out here because it's tied to what they're calling hockey related revenue and my question would be does this that their proposal. Change what is actually hockey related revenue that we see 5050 it's okay it's good for the players but. Did they change what is now considered hockey related revenue do we know the exact details of that Greg. Well that's the thing you know and in their proposal which of course flick of four by its document online you can find everywhere another for the extra cooking by the -- -- the information out there for the first time. Unprecedented. The political although it's out there a public. You know offer you see that that how you related revenue is sort of -- on the fly out but believe we'll tell you that they're looking to go back to what's been defined as in the previous collective bargaining agreement the players that thinks he does that sort of thing Haiti saying you know that you need to define -- a little bit better. He we need to bring some more things into it you know Olympic for example there's expansion to Canada because that would put another in Toronto put it in convexity. Is that money hockey related revenue -- that money straight to the other pocket but into the sort of things immediately defined. An eight. What's gonna be accounted for the -- that is where. I know it's not it's not every player meets hundred players -- so overseas. But it's some pretty big names who are. Play and again they love who are making a little bit of money a pretty good money over there how much is that. Basically go how hard is dependent with those guys for some of the big names that just playing the game for -- to get done. -- -- Part that -- am having trouble with the need to be an actual put -- that he'll work to get very excited about it I mean that the reaction from fans of that you can now what does that Gary that guarantees every and there are a lot but it -- the other book off the charts but take -- step back you think okay. 1 of the players association hired Donald feared that they are you open an October. And why -- a hundred or so players you'll receive right now getting jobs making money digging their heels then prolonged fight. In fact they were gonna accept an offer like this so the fact that we absolutely clear brokered -- so quickly as -- much quicker clip that we had back in 2004. We need to believe that -- CP. The players are gonna stick this one out -- there for longer or not necessarily gonna get a ticket season. We're talking to -- -- -- -- Yahoo! Sports and puck daddy he joins us the response yesterday from Donald -- was yeah I'm a little bit dubious -- wait and see they're gonna meet today. From a player standpoint Greg like these guys outspoken what has been is have been a general response from players via Twitter and social media about what the NHL offered a couple of days ago. -- the general response the player is that why didn't they put up the puck in September. -- -- that the biggest mistake NHL -- the entire -- that -- putting up an offer back in July that was the joke. I mean you know they cut the players here like 43% there that we -- -- -- assemble back a salad. -- -- shall put that out they're simply to get talks going. But the problem is that every single player of the week you -- -- got four and still refers back to it looked up and help the eagle. Kind of give them -- to negotiate also I think the players appreciate that and I think to a man they see it as a gesture of trying to move that the ball forward a little bit of negotiations. You got to remember when -- -- week removed from players saying I don't know who come back who -- this year for Russian guy saying I might play in Russia that -- mean there's still the level the -- is the level of a mistrust the owners. That we have. It simply because the NHL has moved more toward the middle of their proposal doesn't need a player called in all the sudden get get the -- and -- -- for the last several months. Well at the 82 games and obviously owners wanna get that -- it. You know the Bruins are there to start November 2 -- what ten games to try to make a ten games in you know five months it's still the NHL does that come up. As far as player safety goes and be out of play that additional couple months a month. Well I think I think it is an issue players hit the net and you know you're talking about schedule but it -- 82 games into the same level travel it's gonna be more you know intense. I imagine that the where classic will be played I imagine the alt target the -- be casualties this year and in a truncated schedule by. Yeah I think there are you the players it's getting there are two of a fatiguing and really -- you guys down and by the end of the -- and getting at RE. By that says you know gasket and whether they want. You know bad on your or 82 games I think it might take -- -- to gain if the bet -- there. Awesome dumb question today why -- you guys had this great -- on puck daddy couple weeks ago that the NHL with the big games they're gonna miss here for the expected to miss here for the first part of the season it's like 17100 games now miss by this league -- In the last what 181920. Something years why does that keep coming back to this -- keep getting to a spot where the league and the players have a deal. And they've got to redo it's almost 2000 game business. Well one because furcal that recently is structured with the owners are the ones with with the -- and I mean they've got all the power that got all the leverage they can to keep going back -- -- their hand in the cookie jar. And that's it looked as one Anthony -- got the system reinventing the financial system like it was back in 2000 what you're up and fight the that the owners realizing. He screwed up their own system and have a trying to take a -- too -- about the players with the monogram. But the real driving force in the -- that we keep coming back to the saying is. The NHL doesn't have a massive television contract in baseball football basketball do they just go out book that same. Same level of revenue stream that the other sports spew their hate -- the and you know 3.3 billion dollars is -- the Internet that he the revenue in the -- generated. But there's a lot of obstacles in the -- to travel either put the law applies player salaries. And when you don't have all of the other revenue stream that they like in a cell as well but you're really kind of just Creighton want to get every percentage liberty and at the exact pockets that's why we -- back to the spring and also I think Gary I think Gary Bettman hobby I think what obviously you're kind of into it. By doctor Gregory should steer the puck daddy block on Yahoo! are cause thing play out. What what's the end game in your in your mind. Well -- NBC's schedule starts that. I feel man that they might. They might get things done I think we might get that's thing done we might actually getting cute game it's gonna take the the that we need to moving a little bit up on the percent of their revenue the players get at least the first year. And the in the but the big thing right now -- is they've got to figure out. If if the players get go from 50% at 50% -- that the percent. And there's gonna be three years and what their contract -- in the value. The league says they've got land to make sure that every contract out the with every player that the money. There's a level of mistrust here between the players the owners and and I think we're gonna have to really get this thing concrete in relating. For the players -- often as he liked. Last -- for me is there any chance right that they re do you kind of the structure of salary and revenue and and there was also talk limiting the contracts in two years for entry level players five years and free agency. It's great chance at some teams that part of a new deal might be over the cap you know we talk about this Bruins team and have a little little leverage to maybe at a player. Any fear that teams will be over the cap at the dump salary to get back to where the new rules -- this thing Greg. The way that the league structured they're currently vocal it's gonna be -- one year amnesty either that. Per per game in the upcoming isn't gonna be up with -- like seventy million dollars. Just because they're gonna allow old bridge that because because it's gonna be insane to see people trying to get under the cap. For the seat in the following speed and obviously they go down there you know admit it you let's say in millions and up went up this isn't going to be made it. The contractual look back into the I think that's where you can see the NHL PA coming strong and try to. Right now right now the initial offering a fighter cap a long term contracts and the PA comes and asks for maybe seven or eight years and it would be shocked if he's the NHL kind of act. -- that I think both the owners. Jeremy -- included like the idea being able to retain their talent for a upwards of six or seven years. If they choose to -- that we have to get rid of the cheating contracts. We got a guy like you know Ilya Kovalchuk Marian oh getting paid like a dishwasher when these. By the end -- either occurred -- to get that cap that they don't today you know it's that kinda thing that we need to get out but I think the long term contracts. The players and others are both kind of on the them. Lot of fans might wish Gary Bettman was a dishwasher Wendy's right. The bill with the theory that patient and these I shouldn't -- than you yet -- either or -- sponsors are shown. Any of those to be good Greg questions keep puck daddy blog at Yahoo! Sports dot com follow on Twitter. Greg great stuff as always appreciate the insight and teleport talking about hockey actual -- some point down the road. Got little ballistic luck out and. -- the best Greg Rusedski on the AT&T hotline AT&T forgy LTE was speeds that the ten times faster than three G it's AT&T rethink possible and a circle back to the beginning. What he said as to what to look for today at the NHL PA comes back with a real undercut offered to lead an ailing -- for short amount of time that's a bad sign for everybody. If they meet today and the -- counteroffer by the NHL players is reasonable. And -- a reason for discourse and actually -- meet and talk and it's got the -- today that's the good thing but a quick meeting. And a quick rebuttal from the NHL the stand up a walk out of the meeting that's real problems here today at three might not have hockey start in November mid November -- a lot of people. The guy Stucco rush to go back that focus group you know on -- -- -- a close a group and you you know. And you send it out the media you know the full proposal. Obviously come out of that you realize every bit get on the owners there's no support Batman and the next day. You publicize this offer now it sounds good right I'm sure Donald fear looks and says yeah -- what it's not as good. As everybody thinks -- maybe not familiar with all the negotiations yes they went from. The original offer of 57%. 43 split and now we're back to 5050 yes but there are a lot of things. In this deal that's not going to benefit us Donald fears is no joke you know if he's no jokes so. I'm sure that any holes in this type of offer but your right to come back. And don't kind of close the gap here yep that focus group -- And in a step foot on the players. There's already when you see this off for -- our players just accept this and giving hockey back it's already started the sway fans have said it's already started to swing to a billion that many owners that it could jump. 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