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Is Peyton Manning's Arm Strength an Issue? Matt Chatham and the NFL Sunday Crew Say Don't Believe the Hype

Oct 7, 2012|

Matt Chatham explains why the theory that Peyton's Manning's arm strength is way down due to lingering injury effects is false. It wouldn't be the first time that the media has jumped to conclusions. Matt thoroughly breaks it all down.

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    Our number two Chris aligning with sports Sunday Sports Radio WEEI 6177797937. Then not all Red Sox some pretty much all Jon Lester threw the first hour lie detectors weighing in on the AT&T tax line on that will get to that just a moment. Out final round of the masters is going on a maturity people. Into getting into what is much science tiger. And without Phil as well he Mickelson showed up I think late Thursday night she flew in and Friday after energy is flied out. With Phil Mickelson. I he had a tough weekend are tough early going Richardson first round in a local guy Keegan Bradley struggled missed But there are some big games of the top the leaderboard some exciting. I young names of the Jordan's BT's twenty years old he's cash to win the masters I he'd be the youngest winner since 1979. LEB younger. Then the tiger was the first time you want it. And one of the things that really stood out to me is speaking with some people were down there this week to cover the toward talks and these young guys and it get back to tiger. The complete and water. Lack of off. Around around Tiger Woods to these guys are too young you think about twenty years old 21 years old with somebody like camera some would like walker. In somebody like Blix the Swedish guys and second right now and he's. He's like 28. You know some of these guys too young to really remember or at least have played with tiger against tiger. When he was hitting level like we never seen before the PGA tour earlier received since Jack. And they look at him now a Zagat shoot 77 on the weekends. Is that cats really contention anymore where is I mean Aaron I'm not old and your and all of you remember when. Final round tigers in the lead it was done forget about it I mean one year in the PGA YE Yang those big shots out late and ended up beating and yet that epic battle with Bob May. I nearly beat him in the PGA but it would for the most part just wasn't close he would get a lead and he was one of the best closers in the we'd seen in the sport. But it's just it's different now that's a different vibe. Around Tiger Woods and it's gone from seemingly a foregone conclusion that he would get to nineteen majors is seemingly foregone conclusion that he won't eat next year. Does play majors this year. Is give forty years old Jack won three. After he needs five Jack won three after forty to two of those were when he was forty and the masters in 986. Was kind of an out Larry's 46 years old. Tiger would be a hall of fame career from here on out five major championship all career to get in nineteen. I think it's interesting not only his fall from grace just as a player. In terms of winning majors the was in my opinion at least the best player on were last year he had five or six wins a torch to win major. But the bigger thing to me is just how some of these younger players perceive him do tiger as a contention it used to be regarded. The average stroke. The average round rather up a stroke in. In in the in the final round on Sundays when tiger was in contention real just kind of melted aged just. Folded around with a few exceptions mentioned Bob revealed in Nickels and it's good battles but. For the most part it was just tiger's world everybody else's playing for second they were on him Ernie Els just not Now is young guys just young enough to cocky enough and don't really remember that at least they didn't play through it. And they're saying how statute 75 on the weekends with what's not ID in the turn now but. I should be upon Sunday Bubba Watson very very likable guy. And I Jordan who were finding out a lot about trying to become the youngest masters winner a long time quick birds update we'll get back to the calls against 617779. 7937. Cordially NC DM IA's doing great to get the good news on him that was definitely a concern that you know DM IAA was. Out I got hit looked like in the that it from I thought it was illegal but not dirty if that makes sense I don't think there was intent to injure there. It was just one of those times you're trying to make a hockey play get the principal point contact up higher and you won it. So I thought it was an illegal hit not a dirty hit but by a help not the that you concussion translated to on the ice Thursday that part we don't know just yet. But Patrice Bergeron it sound like is fine I he missed the third period yesterday that would would have been a huge concern. I outside to go. There's not too many guys you point to and say this more important to the bees and Bergeron two way player in hockey this year. Obvious he's good according to coach Julianne and Chris Kelly looks like still day to day with that back injury so some. Relatively speaking. Minor bumps and Bruce is going into the Stanley Cup Playoffs but you know these guys especially Alec Bergeron if he could be on the ice on Thursday against the red he's going to be there. I HTT tech slide is 37937. It's like grab a few of these real quick a one Dexter says eight times over David Price let Lester walked. While you make Casey price a better pitcher at this stage of his career early younger I can cost more money. And now your bidding against everybody else you've got the cost control guy. Housing cost control we get the guided the under your control rather. The of the exclusive negotiating window with wants to stay here to guide it. As more in depth track record in the post season to sign him. And that point it's not a knock on price and gives great pitcher. But if you're looking at what you can do it even easier than that that will save you some money relative to what price can get on the open market signed last. I know detector can you imagine having Stanton in Boston did it forty plus homers easy architecture from western mass. Two words about prospects Daniel yep they can go hard the other way. I another one here says agree with you order percent top of the rotation guys talk about Lester innings a year post seasons died. Given the cash over five years five for one and should get it done. And out finally is Lester stats are comparable to average career he walked away from 244 million Lester has been better than Homer Bailey and look at the contract. That he just signed a few textures telling me the gets four clocked at. Well evening parade for a UConn for the championships I assume the men and women together out both of them winning the national title. Yes as tougher as Turkey's but happy for Kevin Ollie who now is the next. Hot coaching named to go from college to the end beauty after eight seasons. But undefeated in the NCAA tournament ally guys can say that are at six or 77797937. is in New Jersey he's up next When then. Just try to not cute bit Ali thank you and I can't believe that a low ball. Jon Lester like they don't agree that you like a side impact by one and whatever argument sake. We have been out of my. But you see a lot of contracts for your team that have gone got into the contract stratosphere and some of them have really worked out so well. But for a number like dapper Lester what he's so willing to stay. I agree I was surprised. When I saw what the number was at the end of spring training where the Red Sox know Lester broke off toxin seems like a a low ball contract terms of dollars in a low ball contract thirty years. definitely. god I G I mean lucky probably let out a little bit like that way radio reluctant I had. Yeah I mean yeah I'm with you thanks to the fall being a former yankees fans perspective. They're never shy about spending dollars. That Lester contract is makes sense and I've said this a few times. Because just getting back to this point I do think my gut still tells me they get a Don. Gut feeling they still get this contract done because I hate candidate it player just wants too much just wants to be a Boston too much. You back going to be here at the expense of taking deal it's foolish and a four year seventy to eighty million dollar contract before which. At ball way below market terms years below market terms the average annual There's no upside here it sounded like a Red Sox blown away with a give you four years but here's point six million a year. Which is probably more than you gonna get I guarantee each and every year on the open market that it could at least. I still think Lester would walk away from crystal he'd say no. But I could look at that is saying the Red Sox in good faith effort to try to. Do with last year what they've done with other guys which is over pay an average annual dollars but try to take that discounted terms of the number years seventy. I can't say that. I can't see it as they came under years came under dollars 6177797937. Bill isn't busted up next they've built. They would subject. who visual. You know what about. You guys keep in the world. Could together okay. guys they look at the guys renewed deal if everybody involved. Make him have the option to. Who boarded deals rivals ordered to the guys will. Make it work. So real simple. So three years of his make sure Israelis and three years seventy million. And then assuming he stays healthy another two years at how much. Ordered me at all. That would come out to volley at 5110. About then you know what would actions. YouTube. 120. It was cute guys so. Yeah It it it any guaranteed dollars sport. That that's just not gonna work for the players work for last. Well hope what works right now what made two big guy a two year deal seven million. With a guarantee. Appeared to remain nimble. The two more years of targeted what are enviable. Well let's get. That that that the five year 120 million dollar contract. Where. OK I guess that that's reasonable but I mean you if you're guaranteeing the money that it's not three years in the two years to five years. And yet we could what three years didn't work out three years it will be created numerous believe that you develop very animated. You know. Yeah I mean I like well. I guess I can't get what you in there you know again trial period so to speak at three year seventy million dollar. You know test blown the CP states LP and see if he still producing. The news saying guaranteed fifty million after that which is five for once money. Why would John again you'd think about it okay hometown discount know we heard the operator gets excited about it. to get past the idea of a hometown discount meeting complete insanity. Seventy million dollars even over a three years average dollars a lot of money. But it still. 50% of what can get out in the open market. You know why would I take seventy million guaranteed even for three years when I could just double that six years guaranteed at 140 million. You know six I can get that extra seventy million dollars over three more seasons just to go out in the open market. That would be a great team friendly kind of idea but Lester were being eyed Joseph and Wakefield once the way HL. What they've done so much for the in the you know 78 years. That burning up I don't know are already up at. I agree with UN and the injury concern for me is that they're now we are talking about Clay Buchholz we'd be having added I merely different conversation. But with Lester even a year it was bad in 2012. Still pitch to plus innings. Yeah I mean you don't get a picture wondering about that party and you don't hate you guys brought there get a going to be offered. And I are I think I really like the attitude that you just want the behavior I don't understand why the Internet situation black. We're not talking about giving the guy a 140. I'm not all that with the amount of money more book like the object audit. Well he had I think the Red Sox kind of Hewitt in the regard as well that's why I wasn't completely floored when he said OK if we here opera was the most that they had. I'll put out there by the time they broke off negotiations. But I'd be and neighbor of 400. Yell now and a and a big. Average annual value a Ford seventy for is an opera that you know the players get a that's an opera that it's designed to be turned out. Yeah independent though they looked like but based on the yacht I don't know it. All the the PR stunt getting negative PR because I think I had tickets ridiculous they have any Lester did lie to me if he blocks away at the end of the day. And and the Red Sox look back and in the end flick back and say. And they could of they could negotiate they could out of spring training but the only opera percent beat the teams the only one's gonna look bad that's an. Aerial my opinion darker integrated you know integrated I'm sorry you know it made it. It's the same age and it did Dustin Pedroia has I can't think of his name off my head to similar Pedroia as we negotiated down discounts the This situation it is thought here we cannot I mean update completely done park are now completely. It sounds like till the end of the season got to do have an exclusive negotiating window. Went thanks for the college and they've exclusive negotiating window with Lester. After the season is over and that it's free agency. But you know in my mind even if the Red Sox were come back with a big number in the fall. But it even gets to. Reagents even gets to the point were other teams are our ticketing contracts are offers a Lester you're probably spending more than what you have spent. It just get the deal done now. You just avoid any possibility any any chance did you rate in the another team another suitor and unlike David Ortiz we can't you know we had a debate about Ortiz is going to be even a market that is. And I thought maybe lot of people but absolutely now. That's fine with Lester there's no debate right. I mean when I can debate the fact that it thirty year old going on 31 year old lefty it's starting pitcher with a great post season track records that market. We know that that's the case there's going to be money thrown at this. So you have the opportunity. To not only negotiate exclusively with him up or you even touch or even Free agency. It to get an offer on the table to sign this guy if they're not able losing the player beat. I signing into a deal that maybe goes outside their comfort zone because now they worry about free agency not to worry about other offers them. You could have made a better fate in my mind decide than these reported figures in at these numbers are right you know he's not taking. It's an it's designed to be refused to keep brought out their deceit it's a hit proper. I don't think organ necessarily buy that I think that this mark baseball banner that. That they and as long as you're in line with keeping Lester some cables don't want that at any high price and that's fine that's your opinion I disagree by. It any band that wants Jon Lester back is valued at his team. It and understand just what the market is looking for the seventy's at It's an insult. Text messages committed 37937. AT&T like. Texas is Red Sox have too many pitches in the system they had the upper hand. Now that it's does its thing is too many pitchers in this is have a lot of starting pitching depth they have a lot of potential. As allowed by hope and is better than Jon Lester obese Kerr shot why not. But you know what you have in Jon Lester. You don't know what you have yet Henry and that goes to my point of if you're gonna have some of these cost control pre arbitration arbitration guys up. Lester got the money to do. He could have a a lot of money coming off the books over the next read of where years. Yet a pitcher John Lackey threw for 500000 dollars on next season. In NA and it not a salary cap sport but it sport I care about a 189 million dollar luxury tax threshold for the at least they're from last. I that to take three years the market's already at five to six. years as Lester won't get 140 on the open market I disagree I think he will. I the Texas is give Lester one of these two deals. Or for a hundred or seven and 12611. if the offer candidate for for a hundred then I would say you know the Sox made an effort. They made shots try to sign him and take battled down discounted terms of the year when it for par seventy it. and a few text is going back to a couple calls as a wide world Lester take three year deal and a trial period. We can get five years guaranteed and I completely agree this is an interesting text here get this one before the break. I you know I'm not entirely sure why everyone has the phrase 110 for five I should get it done because he had no idea. What will get it done in theory. Yet that would be a hometown discount. 111 for five years an option six and eight I have no way of knowing. Whether that would get it done so he's looking at 5110. I just keep coming back that number because I look at. What the market would probably and keep going back to guys like Cole Hamels you know reasonable comparable to last year's regular season numbers I see six. In 144. EC 23 and change per year so take roughly that average annual value. 43 in his case it's going to take a year back it five years old hometown discount. But he's not leaving and and the billions of dollars That's why I come back to that number I'll get it done I have no idea what I'd be willing to go to say. 150 over 520 million a year probably. Start pushing diablo or we'll talk. You see what the number but a number I have in mind. And a lot of people have in mind they think 22 million a year twenty to 22 million a year years and college day. Five years a 10210 million dollars 6177797937. The point though I had no idea we don't know. What gets I can tell you this though. Ward seven he doesn't get it on told you that before knowing. That that was the for the Jon Lester turned out we get back to your calls coming up next we'll talk war. A Red Sox get to the Bruins as well and what touch and the Celtics before the end of the show as well get to 4 o'clock Chris Blondie with Sports Radio. WE yeah.

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Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

Welcome back to NFL Sunday Sports Radio WEP I'm my name's Dale Arnold Chris writes from W we got dot com it's here. Kevin -- former patriots running back down my left. Patriots linebacker Matt -- that my right is -- district got -- to -- if you -- The updated scores in the NFL. I will say -- the browns had a fourteen nothing lead over the -- -- that game. Victor Cruz to receive day at touchdown pass and and the giant step back -- the -- The back golds leading that all but six if that meant everything else is catalog scoring Packers with a seven nothing lead over the colts. Sunday Night Football of the wanted to -- and make his apparently. The saint asked for and were given permission to allow Sean -- to attend tonight's game. This is a potential. Record setting performance for Drew Brees and depending on how things work out. Now my friend from New Orleans who I had dinner with last night. She said the -- in New Orleans is he's not don't. But he's not comfortable going in given the situation he was given permission by the NFL won't supposedly in the game now with an even bigger -- -- not. And will soon we'll CP -- it's my injury got all right let's talk about about Peyton Manning from a physical perspective. He has neck surgery. Look it's easy for me to say I have never been an NFL player nor even you know thought about that possibility. Just that I've been down this you just missed out but just a guy with with the white and a couple of kids I say to myself why -- put yourself through this you know why would keep you yes. Your your Peyton Manning I'm assuming he's got enough money to live on very comfortably for the rest of his life you know you are one get away from catastrophe. Why do you go through woody went through but that's beside the point he did it at the surgery. Lost the season. Has come back. I've heard very reports that he just -- all the way used to do. -- -- -- but that the zip on his fastball that he used to have. You know we've still got the same football brain although it's a little bit rusty as you might expect that we missed the year that makes sense to me. You tell me if Peyton Manning when he steps on the field that they at port 25 today and throw the fastball believes. Yeah OK so. I'm gonna go through this sort of a group of women go through every little level historic. While players this thing and I think it's important understand my personal view is that there was a little bit journalistic malpractice on the national scene book this week. In September 18 nineteen around the ultimately win. You pull up their need to understand -- Manning has had one quarter. In his six team that he's played. We've got a turnover yet -- in that game. So most of these conversations. From the arm strength issuing those kind of issues came from you think's capable quoted training camp -- -- I'm not at a 100%. -- the west the year after him back in the -- you talk to Kevin here's your training camp after they feel that's the throw away. -- your budget probably also -- Manila residents after it was true. And then there was a secondary issue I believe in one of their first couple games where one of the back -- we're much more compliments on my world for a hail Mary -- -- -- -- exactly. So warms up until that notion though you know longer throw that he passed kind of became part of that story as well. Haven't you probably got this I don't know what Paul but. I don't think anyone this table would think of Bledsoe was not strong -- guy. And is that an -- our current guidance Tom Brady well and whenever we played -- -- flee whenever we played teams. Michael bishop and people will remember from Kansas State was sort designated. It -- -- That's not an indication of where his strength is it just doesn't make sense that you don't go truthful -- from the wall and -- -- -- -- -- to -- around with them it wouldn't be surprised to see it -- to -- You're doing -- with right now which is not an acute. Not an indication of -- don't know what we're what we're we're a ticking -- here and it's these little piece of information means zero you know. So moving on so now go back to Atlantic game and do my best here to sort of do this as best you can and radio and I'll try to be quick with it but there were three place. Through a series of interviews with Matt Patricia asked him if he saw anything from that I was checked. The page itself all the receivers don't want as indicated that any issue with the guys -- And he has gone over and over and over himself and -- decision which. On the case that would make your you know that is absolutely this is if -- usually -- -- -- -- -- -- that so anyhow and these were picked his first pick in this Atlantic game. Was actually called cover for which often gets mistaken in this sport that drew was well practiced a lot of Walker Cup a few things looked like it before it's four. And the importance of this play. Is that they were caught in a little muddled situation that -- that won't go -- really good at you know Colquitt counties in the past rodeo. And the falcons were caught kind of with their pants down you know scramble and you see the three linebackers motion in one another to see the safety. Not know we're gonna go sort sort recess and play like that. If you don't want that to happen but it doesn't it almost works to sort of an accidental the skies. So Peyton threw the ball where the -- never would -- -- if you have been able to reach the people to quit because it would cost him or operate the kind of just what that -- off the side it's not a particularly from. It just simply happened but hasn't the -- -- for the second pick notes guts whatsoever to stand in the offense defense it turns out to be cover for what happens a couple of for the -- level. You feel about this while -- before -- reply once that we're we're receivers on one side of the field and one on the other. We're basically plays like walk which told the quarter over backside -- you're actually a man to man little left three quarters of the you'll. Looks like three deep safeties over the top of her. And that the analogy I would make on some of these places often you'll remember back that I walked victim in the in the playoffs. We sort of stole one off the back you -- wasn't his guy it was a rout of the scene I was -- leave his responsibilities about. It's like company -- -- which happens when you're walking outside the other second safety. Mistook the three -- once it has nothing you can we overload of the slats which you wind up with. It's worth the -- with only worked real -- -- overload so you never throw all the they did that's got nothing to do with orange. It's a movement on the last one we actually have ruling that same stance situation with wanting to be it was intriguing its cover for can't cover three or four was against but trade. So formation. Through receivers once the -- on the back with interest in Napa thought that didn't get picked up form what's. They have they have a nickel or soft defense out there the defensive back that was the scene where me -- for -- eighteen to twenty yard drop in -- patent. Had the -- -- it's not it's not an on line kind of ball because you -- defeated him over the top. The thing that was interesting in that place is you guys to various Thomas and the outside receivers you'll -- side. He needs -- because you've working with the seek the incumbent through the firewall -- this view on the inside. He runs basically if you're walking nine route went jogging go route. And makes the seat you immediately know nothing's going on here I can go steal the other guys what he also doesn't do it doesn't stretches. His route to be outside the -- -- for the silent to make -- why this week. He runs a dummy rounds which will give it you know it's sort of that review this coroner buddy by not doing so that accuracy he is able commented missed the throat I want it steel. What I thought he didn't get Harvard rated Stokely got from them. -- at -- you can compete on the ball didn't look like you thought it was gonna do it because he got that all political before things were the actual people that don't look like the Boeing company. He can compete on the ball and wants the ball was intercepted. Actually continued to -- on the on the field. Injured people didn't pursue the turnover of the point of monopoly. But to do with our street global system patent pool only three -- -- to -- before the season into with a perfect you know with upward when you throw line anyway. So the idea here is. -- story. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But quick break we'll -- ambiguity that data will take a breath one. Welcome back it will just one look at -- if implement it we're broadcasting live from that we keep that up this -- -- Those arms straight is it okay is that it's okay it's hard you order this and -- Sports Radio WE yeah.

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Bruins V. Red Wings in first round of NHL Playoffs 4-14-14

LB joins Mut and Merloni in studio to preview the Bruins first opponent in the playoffs, the Detroit Red Wings.

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Headlines Headlines Headlines: Aaron Hernandez in more trouble 4-15-14

The top stories of the day as recounted by Kirk Minihane. Today the guys discussed Aaron Hernandez getting in more jailhouse trouble.

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