Bobby Valentine falls off bike, Sox blow opportunity to beat Yanks, and Pedroia plays injured

Today the day is today the day the final day for Bobby Valentine I went to the final day for Bobby Valentine. A couple of different things one we get him at 230 in the big -- today with holly in order way fabulous and we get his final game is Red Sox manager tonight in the broader. I am serious Bobby won and done baby I was hoping that we would get a text last night or something from them you know. I've requested just in the final push America one midday show one time to the kind of talk baseball you guys as though you're good baseball guys. You just the most notably our baseball right out these very happy with me Caribbean movement Tuesday unfortunate but still isn't -- wanted to -- -- that it was a -- -- guess folly to stop I would be happy to be very interesting interview. To think. Next year playing days -- -- Ghana and with your manager -- -- that's -- -- -- -- oil lobby while managing leaders that probable thousand times a night their exports tonight baseball show and ever other stuff they're showing on Comcast up to come on -- baseball -- -- -- -- that -- attacks at some point today Sam Bobby your quest to -- -- -- Coach Galloway -- two -- talks in baseball. In terms of the game last night the Red Sox losing 4312. Bone to pick with the -- Rapidly as you come on the air yesterday give me all this crap they'll open the show. I'm telling about watching the game how pissed that was buckled got rocked crappy line up. Lot -- watching these games why don't watch it on and I and that little did Tony use Utah talked down to me. That's up on Twitter last night. And what -- you -- -- it's conversation you tweet like it's July 24 that writes it's our game up in the division my big game matters TL -- for cared about these games to get all fired up after. Related it didn't matter you know and then out of nowhere you selling your house get home relax at some time with the wife indicated he goes to sleep and and he looked up there that there would in a ball game meaning. As I was on the -- and Mike you know watch and throwing filthy having absolute filth from the solace on. Just rake it up 96 by A-Rod just blowing cheese by guys 99 mile an hour 91 monarch. And about the split but whatever -- was that thing is filthy to. It just caught my I want the other thing and that's -- So that it's a sort of stuck with me. Then I realized the frustration levels in the reasons why you know it's very difficult to watch that team from start to finish like. Because for up in honor those guys talking this morning -- is a dead ass team and that the effort isn't there these guys have given up on the season. For stuff that's I don't believe it's true okay. Because that just not good. There that I mean is is Syria -- not given effort English is not given effort Lavar and way mean Nava the moral Gomez did just not that good. You know it won't get that Dustin Pedroia put the talent is just that they can't compete with these guys this truly is go back to email. This is -- vs varsity Larry Lucchino you get the -- the freshman team still lies out there. An update given it everything they have. -- just not the not ready for this. Right down the stretch they played nothing but the in the Yankees in the -- two teams fight it out two good teams -- stymie with all the conference in a world. Going to a post season trying to win the division. They're on their overmatched. You know edit that that with a couple of decisions. -- you know Andrew Miller and always struggle lately the guy. I think if you're like ninety pitches in the bullpen before you actually came into the game was -- four times. That's by our count yeah. Four times to get up were found acumen. We will -- welcome Oden was in Toronto the only pitcher for a glacier is the whole you know what the outsiders cry. Nobody about that after the game -- the Johnnie do it for Johnny -- Lester some winds. We try to get away last night amiga twelve inning game. No -- -- to sit there and a on the bench be any thing of BO glaciers and throwing in a Baptist. Played nine guys didn't pension and pinch run into anything to buy a bunch relievers and that was it is that frustrating. All and that's what I would agree need to an extent the players themselves haven't quit. Is Bobby Valentine quick I body now I've given full effort right now it in the last. Particularly the last -- -- so -- manager this do you think he did everything good last night from a baseball standpoint. To win that game if -- fan of the Boston Red Sox I'd argue not you mentioned no pinch hitting whatsoever at twelve inning game nine guys in nine guys played. No -- -- no -- drawn no change nothing. The bullpen looks at what you want he got lucky that mark Lance and last -- and -- has pitched -- on the -- and it to the point. That the silver lining after the game -- -- is maybe bullets as I can salvage for next year that's what we are with the Boston Red Sox that mark -- Is a guy we're talking about next year maybe for the closer spot you believe -- and TC after the game last night on us and but as you're watching that game and you think it about it that you haven't tweeted about the -- thing. Forever can always come ambulance and then he lets them face in the Lance and there. He didn't care if they wanna lost you wanna put him Lance knew we atrocity -- -- to go for forget the numbers forget that I have Miller. Forget that I got a ball ample guy's a good pitch and I don't want more game left tomorrow. This is being the entire reason that the entire reason but a major port in the regions today. I wanted him out at the end of July early August let him bald or have six weeks the -- five weeks of this team. I think they give you better effort and the manager would give you better effort this guy knows he's out here I don't care what he says about I and then told. Everything else -- agree with -- That in that meeting in Seattle the breakfast with John Henry he knew the deal. At that point. We have a lot of questions while why do you guys care beat out by now -- care they get rid of them let him finish out the year. Well because the games like last night when I think somebody else would have done more as the manager. To work and grind to win that game listen and that matters the -- -- don't ball better in the Miller. But I mean you know you don't. The ski they got a -- too often and you can you can say nitpicking but you can ask any single guys it's -- pitched in the big leagues and the united -- myself but at this you've been around these guys fifteen years. You're getting up once is sitting down getting a second time a sitting down getting a third time -- sitting down it's at some point sacking -- this guy. You know he's already gotten up three times forming. You know and put him in there again. No struggle at night if you could look terrible situation could you possibly Bobby have done something wobble at the eleventh inning with the game tied three to three. You know they intentionally walked Syria Arco to get the Jose Iglesias. What was the first and second. I think tie ballgame third during. Michael -- pretty good Florida's Derrick Low and say -- my Kabila says he's not. The three -- any us and -- economic I would Scott Dohmann backed -- up in a pinch hit form but still. It better option Jose -- is a 33 game and eleventh inning with two outs. -- rampant mitnick -- is is a guided defensively has been. Stellar for this team but he still -- one away after what happened last night he still under 110 for the year. I agree with you I think if you look at the way the bullpen was used last night. You know in terms of only going to go to -- for an -- you into -- on burning through guys pitched really well and and -- -- to solemn. I just I just got the feeling. That he's playing out the string. The way expect players to do and if you gonna Bogart or intern manager -- here the last 456 weeks. You get a better take for the manager and I think the players would responded to. A reading the Michael Silberman piece today in the Boston Herald he's talking about how the players reacted to the Valentine how they'd try to decline was -- they tried to make the most of it this year. But that the manager has been despondent and were loosened and and it away from the team ought to get a new Guidant last month. You get a better take from -- -- you get maybe a better feeling going into the offseason that that was the big issue I had. With a month ago what can you gain can't gain a ton -- To avoid games like last night where it appear like the manager we just knows his -- knows what's coming Thursday maybe Friday and some sort of scheduled team meeting. And schedule meetings of the front office he knows he's out of there. And that was frustrating last night and I was I was -- -- C died after I got caught up -- it you got caught up in and you got pissed off and fired about what you saw other. Let me -- -- those appointments -- every single night. And -- like five days off rule or whatever was getting hadn't really pitched a lot and guys just absolutely lights out the great. Let's start tomorrow a little bit the twenties and keep nice and fresh for spring training. Mean if you're being consistent with that right I mean to Kamal what the two and two pension Iglesias to try to win ball games that Kamal and stand there -- which are still win Balkan. Economic and Mostar when games. And then with two outs in the eleventh inning you don't penchant -- regulations may be one way to account at -- -- -- never really got there may be a -- maybe he would have I don't know. You know but it -- -- a ball game here at this hour this -- -- the last game of the year Junichi great season. Courting give me what you got to go one inning union -- among give me another reading. When -- done a local boy tomorrow the last game of the year to give me too not these guys off tonight we got a chance tonight. That's he's going Mulligan no shot tomorrow as well let's go try to win this ballgame. It didn't happen -- -- the some little things that whatever it's old with it's over with tonight that waste energy and time to get frustrated over last night. Get your reaction 6177790852. All 38885250850. Verizon cellphone pound. WEEI it's a free call -- Texas on the AT&T -- like any time at 85850. Are there was some good the came out last night and that is hopefully the end of a conversation about a certain player on the roster. Being a problem because he's not a problem he's the solution thought about Dustin Pedroia ninety seconds. Was I surprised sir. When I got a text does he say -- sign. It's awfully good. -- Got a question ask Bobby -- it always comes back to Bobby V right ask about Pedroia and ends up -- Durbin himself falling in the ditch. Turns out you believe the New York Times that stories true. These -- to central park's reservoir when reading a text message from Dustin Pedroia. When it crash happened according to the times he looked up for the message ballot tennis swerved to what will -- And skated down to the bottom of the ditch the paper reported at US Oprah Bobby -- should have been reading a text -- riding. That's the wrong thing to do but at least does wearing my helmet. Body be in a ditch. Sums up the Red Sox season right there for me ever anyway album that stores -- the way by -- in a ditch. And Dustin Pedroia playing last night out there was a stretch. And again I strained to remember 11 it was late August with. We took a lot of phone calls about Pedroia and his future with this team and we listing out the problems it's not and you and I were fighting off the callers that. Same Pedroia is an issue Pedroia is a problem and I am I welcome those callers to call today. But I think after yesterday -- enjoy playing with the the broken finger and maybe back in their tonight. That sufficiently should put an end that adult notion. That Dustin Pedroia is a problem. For the Boston Red Sox going forties part of the solution. He set a great example last night and for a multitude of reasons. I love the fact it was inevitable -- And Wheatley -- -- -- -- -- and -- guy made a mistake. I think he realized that and at some point during the year tried to correct -- talked to some media members around here. I think they've learned that of a lesson of the key particularly the lesson this year. And I think what he did last night not a lot of people like you -- we took calls he's got to go with the problem he's the biggest issue. If you feel left the watching that game last night. If you feel up to hear a story about how it was a broken finger. These can be done the rest of the year. Little studies -- -- -- gonna play may be heard the rumblings tend to let before memorial look at that everybody's look at that line opens innocent joke. The Red Sox central anybody up their joy doesn't place heard Ellsbury as a play for whatever reason. They just had enough its analytical their -- and it really care about the results just to kind of send a message. If you can't appreciate that and respect that. And you'd just hate. That you just fault that a category of this team could -- nothing nothing right he didn't want this team to win he just wanted to and the pay for their for whatever happened in the past. Even if you dislike Dustin Pedroia you absolute 100% have to respect the fact that he played that game last night. That auto was -- was leadership then it's an example of I you know I think he learned a lesson I think he made his mistakes. I think moving forward he's part of the solution is not the problem. So part of the job you know anything he's -- bases to finish up our database or whatever but around. You know they they know that I'm going to be out there and mention others who have. Examples -- you know it's a team. Love that quote from him yesterday. I love that quote and I love the fact that he's actually in there now maybe have taken a step too far but look I. When I hear that line about they don't gonna be out there they should be out there to open happens to them it's a team that's the end of his quote you just -- -- from Dustin Pedroia. He's friendly with Jacoby Ellsbury me week -- all of Robin asked when he would do the the laser show segment back in the days now the big show on a bird talk about. Working out bells buried -- PI ever talked about how he's got to keep hundreds weighing in Boston up a little bit -- fund. -- that was a quote directed it Jacoby Ellsbury. Specifically other players who are. Out of the lineup due to the what he would consider small issues in a -- Droid two broken finger barely kicked in any worse and it's a pain threshold thing. Am I reading too much into it when I read -- when I hear him say. I know that they don't gonna be out there they should be out -- Q perhaps to them it's a team I think boy. It sounds an awful lot like he's trying to talk to Jacoby Ellsbury after coming back in and -- taking his time but haven't a real struggle in and out in an -- line up your last month or so activists and have to. Season with his injury. Yeah Alison PD was quick to say you don't go there you know it's us and he's been beat up mean talk about tickle we Ellsbury and about people maybe took it that way and media and we approached him with that he said that's just not the case turns an example -- everybody -- But listen to Kobe's missed seven last ten days nobody really knows the hell's going on anybody comes out with I think he's -- Through the eighties trying to protect the player who's trying to protect. The medical staff which is the key is issues pitchers with a stick and subtle jabs that is no question last couple of weeks. Including last night will get a tube at the you know he. You don't wanna hit play to Kobe -- before. Because that's just one win could cover the big oil field. All because it was a lefty lefty matchup I mean you're out of the playoffs is -- really matter what the matchup is at the plate plate Jacoby Ellsbury. Any concern about. The perception of the executive game having your best not out Carolina was only minor league players and there you just hope you agree on benches. How that might look to outsiders were -- -- moment. For instance -- daughter's claim Tina's going to give us a chance to win. -- it was a -- center field list Michigan defensive players. And who else. Really hasn't hit that well against left -- And Linda to his restless night. In the first time he really looked -- -- nice. 32 curve -- also really would have been on base three times. And -- claim was gonna get his chance to win yes they. Play. You know pitching well and our offense wasn't going to do now next and we're hoping that oh pitch moved the -- would help. -- -- They -- -- pretty good defense -- often. Listen I think Bobby maybe protect the player. -- drinks their campus and he can't play you know I don't know what is but he definitely some issues drinks at last night with -- votes Lester coming out with back spasms. You know he. WEEI dot com that's interest. So it's they hate for me to say what it is and and meeting the training step eight metre tall talk to people about injuries well. First I don't agree I mean I don't agree with Bobby -- -- nearly everybody should be on the same page -- he's done this before. Right when players come out and he says Jack all the because of this -- buckles a pull them a temporary because his back you know bought at the game one not felt fine. You know all those sort of injuries we don't need to hear I don't need to hear about why he pulled the guy in a bowl win whatever might be called Crawford right with a wrist that happened. In a ball went fourteen to one game I don't know we offers up a ball -- look at his wrist was bothered. Those things you don't need to hear so I agree with the training step of the frustration you seven. With this medical staff trainers whatever might be ethic is you're gonna -- the -- and come to a head here -- that's probably -- you'll hear more about when the season's over. Is protecting -- Jacoby Ellsbury. SH a -- a good Alfred. He's not to Kobe Ellsbury as a player and we got a couple hits was a gain of averages. A view is that just a hunch I think tonight's -- strongly it's gonna get to bits off CC. Yet to match -- when you're out of if you play the man. Well I think the bigger picture for Pretoria yesterday. Is that outwardly it's it's silence anybody who wants to say he's an issue that you would think -- I you know I'm sure we'll get those full calls the opening of the Droid did developed I was up problem earlier in the still our problem. I can't believe you would see what he did last night. The play and that game broken finger. And still think he's an issue that -- cowardly to do with and people parties -- -- you know whenever you know we have stated play hard techsters -- 85050 text line. AT&T -- excellent. Will be a question -- party place -- a bad attitude it was a PR move. That's not a PR move. Okay because he had it right there broken finger -- days. -- playing baseball hitting a Bay Area baseball with a bat your hand with a broken finger. We'll go out there throwing a baseball broken fingers that something it's just that it's difficult the two in this sport. You QB and offensive line with a broken finger yeah yeah he can't he be allowed back with a broken prayer Jessica. In a wide receiver will be difficult quarterback will be difficult throw the ball but they can do. You know to swing at a baseball bat so the excuse was built in this is not a PR move. He's got the Portland trying to send a message to young guys. And I wanna play baseball -- compete -- again you were on plane and you need to respect and that was that that was the best part of this forget what we think your fans think the message he sent. To that team in that clubhouse to reestablish himself it was ever eroded in within the walls the Red Sox clubhouse and in the Red Sox organization. The Pedroia was the leader of this team we've talked about that is -- leader Kenny -- leader. That's a leader does last night to play in that spot like J. J. Hardy scored J. J. Hardy is invested in all this is when Baltimore needs the Red Sox to win. And play needs that -- went tonight the force that one game on Thursday. That I thought a lot of Dustin Pedroia begin more him now. And I think players in that locker room players the organization people that organization. If they had any doubts about Pedroia as the leader. That was reaffirm last night but that was a great thing for him to do I give a lot of credit for doing because nobody nobody. What -- say anything with a broken finger because a play the next two nights okay move on goats go to next year. Any plays last night -- what's the first thing he does when he gets up there. RBI double first at bat. Against Kuroda RBI double and set the tone for game there were a position to win there in the ninth inning and don't hold on because of the bullpen. But I give him a lot of credit I'd be shocked today if those Red Sox fans wanna call and and bitch about the -- and he's the prompt -- -- I can say today. 6177790850. Told 38885250850. Verizon cell -- pound WEEI it's a free call -- Texas anytime. On the AT&T text line at 85850 Basra only ESPN -- Jonas just over an hour now 1145 we'll get his thoughts. What direction the Red Sox are going to go into this offseason when -- your phone calls next.