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Making the case for Miguel Cabrera for AL MVP

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Tue, 2 Oct 2012|

Glenn and Michael talk about the historic season Detroit's Miguel Cabrera is having and wonder if it will still be enough to beat out Mike Trout for the AL MVP.

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  1. Miguel Cabrera0:01, 3:15
  2. David Ortiz4:36, 5:47
  3. table tennis6:56
  4. Triple Crown0:07, 0:44, 0:49
  5. Triple Crown winner1:58, 2:15
  6. BP8:01
  7. phenomenal job6:15
  8. pun intended0:21
  9. runs batted0:58
  10. slugging percentage9:50

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Speaking of Miguel. Miguel Cabrera. It's a home runs and now he leads. All caramel pop out Triple Crown. Categories each rep Amber's last night to -- agreed to evidently you don't get the sense that there's an idea. Is there is very statistical war going on not just there in no pun intended. But maybe money isn't and -- the war people. Wins above replacement. And trust where trust is off to a village is if say eight a new school vs old school thing. Where. Maybe the people who who look at war. As the most importance that they then Triple Crown. Is is something for your grandfather they're crazy. That you know Triple Crown you know -- you know we've heard many times it. Batting averages and outdated statistic right we've heard of well -- -- -- slightly batting average and runs batted in and a video came automate an argument now. You know -- they're they're different Republican he made an art but they've lost 100 game yet -- As the -- was down about wins and losses if there are other ways of ordinary people what do you think -- in the Phelan Starbucks there -- -- take your time -- of -- time Gloria. And you look at it also is a TV left is gonna lose is -- one and the team you inherited is a hundred. Is there a new Triple Crown. For advanced statistics. Is it war plus something tells us something else that baseball -- is still like. In this case and I -- -- -- before. I love a lot of the events that. I think agree I think the provide some additional insight into. It is somebody's season you know putting it in context what does this really mean I think that's great. And in this case. I think if you're Triple Crown winner. To mean. You have you have dominated you dominating league you have to you have dominated Europe league and I wound. -- give a nod toward. In Al acknowledged that it has some value of the Triple Crown winner. Got to be him. I think there's more to and I keep on hearing people say that Trout is going to get an awful lot of votes for empty. Is that a phenomenal year rookie of the year phenomenally might. Here's the difference I'm wondering if it's he's fresh he's new he's different. Multi tool player you watch him play he's really fondly upon a lot of on the watch. And tremendous in the field and you'd look at. Number. Some issues here in the past look at some bad issues. -- drinking when you're playing a big huge game I mean there -- some serious issue right that he said in the past he's had some issues would media people dealing with -- could be one of these situations were -- numbers in the. Well that yeah that and -- -- fun and a lot now. Mike -- it's fun to watch in the in the dynamic sense and he's electric he's fast. It makes a lot of plays with his legs I mean he's an exciting player to watch. I Miguel Cabrera. Is somebody you walked with a monocle. You know he's yeah he's a craftsman mean he's big he's a big guy who can hit to all fields and he hits for power. He's not fast. He's not. Dynamic in the sense that Mike Mike Trout is. Maybe Beckham maybe that factors into it as well. He's just ain't well old school station to station player big guy who can knock the ball out of the park and again for our -- A pretty damn good play and Triple -- you can't take it away from to meet. If he ends up with the a Triple Crown it looks like it's going to happen we close out the season tomorrow. He's got to beat the MVP story there's no way you can give to anybody else if he's the first -- to do 45 years there's no way can take it away from. -- your stomach Connecticut hi John. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Our ports or slugger award called for a few port number one actually like you were here about -- Go ahead of with one minute to -- my house I told them that the reps the leverage and they're gonna get a pretty good deal would be Nicholas. I rescue pretty good reds got a pretty good deal so what do glad that you get his house now. Bowed -- consistently there. Artwork though it's gonna say well it's I think that the David Ortiz contracts in the worked out. I think they're they're gonna say -- here's the deal with the -- -- not knowing guaranteed this year there. Our next Jeremy and you know the which incentives to get up to sixteen million -- probably around four. And I can't can't eat the only incentive you can do I believe are games played right Michael I think that's now works. You control you control and yet you can throw MVP control our all star I don't think you do home runs I don't think you can do that. We did what they run -- country it's okay well they can't do that and -- -- that I I thought they were gonna try to do something what. If you did I tell you what -- you're giving him seven million. Guaranteed money he's passing. I don't quite know what -- with the church was going to be against seven -- guarantee they have a chance at 1415 look at that actually it's certainly tenants. I know that the follow your contract or -- locked in. At another fifteen million dollar so it's a little bit of arrest or. But it gets just two years T shirts for the reach their three children the oldest and then the following here also get fifteen. -- you're on Iran to something but I think you started fourteen or fifteen million for David Ortiz for the first year that's what he wants. Based on the way he's talking and then you're right if you throw those incentives. If he can play a 150 games let's say hasn't done and I believe in four years five years. If he does that. You know maybe that's the incentive -- that's what you worried about right you worried about whether he can play because of the injury. If he does that that you lock in a second year -- -- and then maybe yet then you may be have some. They're they're the other what does this say I think optional Walters done a phenomenal job with tutorials. I think he's won so many close games they just are getting an upgrade their Q if you look at the lineup I mean it's not that great and. It's actually I disagree I the more you watch the Orioles. I think they're better than than advertised I think he's getting a tremendous amount of credit the audience. I don't -- he's getting too much credit I think there -- a lot of players summit team that have had some that terrific seasons. And people are overlooking a little bit too much right should get credit he should I mean. Yet he should because if you look at it. If those fourteen in cities or an extra something if you went apple the first seven games now. You know -- crossed into an -- for those -- semi final Portillo is gonna make the table tennis. I think. -- Mario Gomez for the words such is going to be okay players finally getting some at bats. This guy I think is serviceable marching going to be unbelievable Portuguese serviceable at first base and that might file that was I think Trout still end up winning the batting average but I still think Cabrera would -- indeed. -- suggesting and I think some people some folks -- agree with you on Gomez had a great man not that means anything but he did have a great minor league season. For the for Pawtucket and was great so. What it what does it does that translate to the big leagues is he a part time player is -- a full time player who. The more you see of -- then the more experience he gets the battery looks. Who knows but he if I can see him having a place between five man roster I'm Tony thirteenth but outlook that detects machine here. Out to different schools here which is to it which is exactly what I thought. Went Dexter says incorrectly that yes did when the MVP when he went Triple Crown he actually did. When the MVP that year 32614. -- BP six when he -- slugging 44 homers from Pomona. 121 -- -- says. -- These that Triple Crown stats will be irrelevant ten years. I don't think so. I don't think so how they're going to be irrelevant as that -- looking at baseball that weighs -- It may -- -- maybe maybe maybe we may -- how I'll agreed that we have in the past thirty years fifty years may be over emphasized batting. -- -- -- But. It still matters. Doesn't matter as much that they -- these extremes here I think the extremes. Are happening on the other side it used to be that the -- that the establishment that the traditionalist in baseball. Went to these extremes to make their point and they used to ignore it from attrition. Now. Some -- from attrition are going to be other extreme. Ignoring things that have been important baseball for years I mean isn't it just got to meet in the middle somewhere in the and that's where you get your answer. I all agree that certain things have certain things have been ignored and certain things have been trumped up in hyped up that shouldn't be. But I don't think the Triple Crown. Ever been -- hit driver I'm looking at the line -- cucumber. I mean why. He's -- 329. On base percentage. 393. -- forty doubles. 44 home runs under 37 RBIs thank you think. Slugger like that with 617. At that you're gonna have an excessive number of strikeouts right. 97. With 66 walks slugging percentage six away. Old PS one point 401. I'm sorry. You can try to devise all the -- numbers and everything else you want. Those numbers across the board tell me that's an unbelievable season that's a great cities in BP's MVP season.

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