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Tue, 2 Oct 2012|

Dino and Gerry discuss the latest allegations of abuse against former Red Sox clubhouse manager Donald Fitzpatrick and what role the current ownership group plays in the case even though they didn't own the team at the time of Fitzpatrick's employment with the team. They chat about what responsibility, if any, current ownership has in the case, how should they settle the lawsuit, and what's the right thing to do with the lawsuit.

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Yeah cigarette packs a phone calls in just the second. Sometimes ugly things just won't go away -- Jerry sandusky. Patrick and mop of some other items. This is something the Red Sox in my estimation unfairly. Are being forced to deal with only because -- happened under the banner. Of the Boston red fox many many many years ago you may or may not have heard the story of clubhouse manager Donald. Now deceased. Who was accused and convicted of molesting a number of young African American bat boys. And clubhouse attendants and just hangers on. That he was in charge of hiring. Another one has now surfaced his name is Gerald Armstrong. He is a legend fits Patrick repeatedly molested him in the late 1960s. Amid the worst sexual abuse scandal in Major League Baseball history with Armstrong's allegations there are now twenty men. Demanding a combined 100. Million dollars from the Boston Red Sox. Seven performers. Clubhouse attendant who sued the Sox in 2001 for three point 15 million or fit Patrick's alleged misconduct. Armstrong was a bad -- I'm shocked the Red -- continued to employ Fitzpatrick for many years now we -- point out here. The Fitzpatrick came onto the Boston Red Sox when Tom and Jean yawkey on the club. He was part of the Red Sox clubhouse management team win Haywood Sullivan and -- LaRue took over. You remain I think. We remain the Carrington Arum -- that Harrington error 91 he was relieved 91 he was done all right. So it's Patrick's case has proven troublesome for the current Red Sox owners and here's the legalese. That garabedian who is representing the plaintiffs would tell you applies to the Red Sox. It's Patrick's case is proven troublesome for the current Red Sox owners who bought the team from Jean yawkey trust in 2002. John Henry and his partners assume the team's liabilities. And within months of buying the club settled. The multi million dollar suit with a seven men in Winter Haven so that's the answer the question the seven men in -- the three million that is been settled. Now another guy comes up and says I was -- Armstrong and nineteen others who have since come forward. Are now looking for a hundred million dollar from the Boston Red Sox now. Try to be as -- like and here. I am all for victims of sexual abuse getting their -- whatever that may be you know time in jail hard time in this case it doesn't -- since Fitzpatrick is dead. Or financial. Accommodations. From the people responsible. For employing somebody who did this to them seed Penn State. Here's where I have a problem John Henry Tom Warner and Larry Lucchino are not responsible. Employing -- Fitzpatrick. They had nothing to do with -- Fitzpatrick put yourself in their position. If if if Mitchell Garrett beating comes to -- I got twenty guys 100 million dollars five million dollars each apple will go away. What do you think about your moral responsibility in making these people whole again because dot Fitzpatrick and under ownership that was ownership before you. Did to them. Well -- He gets away you know don't have that Fitzpatrick. Was working for the Red Sox season. Killing people. I mean and then that team canceled the next day he's saying about this now where we're not responsible and you assume liability. The Red Sox however have no real liability. Because the statute of limitations has expired on nearly all these cases according Bobble. In the -- Numerous entities including the Roman Catholic church of paid settlements to victims who lacked legal standing. These guys are open. That the Red Sox and their insurance company will -- on the women's advocates from Gwinnett and guess whenever and they have no obligation to do what would you do. You can't say I'd try to make some kind of settlement -- -- to deal certainly wouldn't be a hundred million dollars but it would be something. I assume they sure are insured and they were before we we analyst with Alaska and we talked among the victims. There's insurance but this but mean you have to assume liability immunity -- just because the team that's all that everyone's off -- in mean. In the -- I was in the employment -- it's not much like sandusky Penn State used that position. To get close to these boys and then made his move and ended repeatedly. By the way did anybody there was. People looking the other way did anybody's that's true did anybody so Wakefield technologies when Michael went nuts that you're responsible for the whack job coming into the workplace and in -- and I'll probably probably not sure ever heard about it. But they settled on but they got something sure I mean there's. You're a block obligated to provide security in the workplace aren't you supposed to tell how ever if it if it from the Red Sox I'm looking at this and they have no legal stand because. The statute of limitations has run out and take -- long and hard about. Morally and ethically in my heart what did I or anybody I've employed or anybody who takes their cue from me just how they conduct themselves. As a member of the Boston Red Sox organization. Has nothing to do with this sick back but they inherit a lot of good things but assets in terms of the Red Sox and good feelings and all that look in the upper. If not flat answer that is I mean there is. Precedent there's principle at work here it's morally the right thing to do not not a hundred not a hundred million dollars what you could come to an I whatever number one Maryland. -- is looking for something just you know these are guys. Who were hurt. And -- it's sick it's the same thing and Penn State the reason he got away with discus in the paint people look at the other day and new turned their back -- and -- the victims were either afraid or confused. Their kids. This in this crazy old man's -- five boxing. And down on me yet and and they don't want to do their you know 1516. Year old. Or maybe even younger certainly younger and sandusky case. It just it seems crazy that you have a statue limitations. And much of it is. In a much of the delay is because it is so sick and so twisted and so depraved. You know under the cops hate that I just grabbed my -- in a year you run home -- maybe tell friend and in this probably case for a lot of these kids were. Like sandusky is victims he probably scope the mountains and who could have broken -- yes father's not around is no Big Brother would come up at the end of the work. Disenfranchised people yes justices French -- many. -- and there's another factor involved here and this latest victim Gerald Armstrong addresses -- in the piece Bob -- peace in the globe today. He said -- Armstrong said -- rights Armstrong said he never reported the incident because he felt powerless. Particularly because he was Kansas he was Kansas city's only African American clubhouse attendant. He also consider the subject taboo quote. Something like that was not discussed back then. Especially in the African American community Armstrong said if you said someone did something like that to you you often be considered a homosexual. And that's why he did yes. And and Patrick likes and asking do knew we had protection. I wonder. And we've certainly seen those stories on this bubble is that a good one today. Analyst -- called George Scott in Mississippi yes because. Armstrong said George -- stereo boards George got cautioned him. Said quote I remembered him clearly saying something effective stay away from that Guyton now Scott said. And remember that but that sounds like something. Someone would say whether it's a player and owner write a PR guy whatever vice presidents and he's a little creepy here young black stay away. And that -- -- -- out out of place out of the ordinary no I don't know it just sounds and yet. Scott probably have an idea of what the -- it was up to you know with two when he was doing. When that time and that -- that climate he would run of the confidence I think he might be molest those points lead and voice. Stay away from him he's an adult I knew the guy you -- the guy. Was one of the nicest guys you'll ever -- was it took you by surprise because. The Red Sox clubhouse was a very hostile play. So in Orlando in Orlando and others and players and you know Israel I don't know about this for all those are obsolete it was right next tool for many many years Noam the board none of the victims I don't believe have said. There were witnesses someone saw him doing Jolie Gupta and some sort of amendments or a true friend right shut the door and made his move like to -- -- -- -- -- they said yes he had this thing said Armstrong. About wanting you to put him in a headlock. He said he wanted to see how strong you work Armstrong said he was too young to fully understand the Fitzpatrick was fondling him at that point. He seem like a good guy because it give me five dollar to put him in a headlock. And get him a Barbeque sandwich up the street. Then I guess that escalated he said Fitzpatrick sexual past abuse escalated as he went from fondling two performing oral sex on him three separate. Incidents. And I mean can't they may -- probably guys that would settle at -- -- really for five million each right. If they reach some kind of agreement from where this doesn't have to go to the next level where they sue. I don't know how you soon though when the statue limitations -- correct. Yeah what what could happen to the Red Sox. If they say absolutely not not our responsibility until -- so concerned about their other additional that that they're exactly the court of public opinion and how many people would look look. Negatively on the Red Sox this Red Sox ownership. We're not willing to pay people were injured by. Jean -- and Tommy Rockies guy that they hired. We like to know yucky. Look the other way like -- knew this was his guy and if he knew what Conseco he was. Mean hell I run over in my mind I guess I was. -- on the wrong color but he was very friendly fuel. That's true yeah all right and I you know family and friends and and and and you look back and say oh my god the congress turned my pants in on the that was. But he was it was obviously you go in there and it was -- Frigid toxic. Products and you know Mac and rice and minimum prize just NASA Charlie -- turned -- their mosque just a miserable guy that anybody -- And you know and if so if you took a piece of gum you know. But I was I -- walk in the present scene scream at people this is economic bloc in the wrong place to come no wrong door and -- this -- FTSE. 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