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I wasn't sure. That this could get worse for Penn State that this could get worse for Joseph Paterno. And Graham Spaniard. And Schultz and Curley. But that ideas thrown out the window because when you start to dive into the Louie freeh report today the -- report. This morning and it's 267. Pages were Louis some of the outlying. Pieces and bits of that some of the emails there are included in that almost 300 pages. Absolutely -- gets worse for everyone involved especially Joseph Paterno. And especially for the culture at Penn State that clearly was in place to protect the shield protect the Nittany Lion. And show absolutely no remorse for the victim's sexual sexual abuse by then coach Jerry sandusky. -- football yes they reported off the garbage in the letter that Joseph Paterno had written as interesting to see how that would relate to the findings. Com. There is the -- who came out I think on bite on state dot com. Corn Joseph Paterno spent with the following column was written by before Penn State head coach late December early January less than a month before he died of lung cancer. He went on in this. Story talking about how he feels compelled to say that no certain terms that this is this is a football -- this is not a football scandal. Let me say this again so I'm not misunderstood regardless of anyone's opinion. Of my actions of the actions of the handful administration official of this matter. The fact is nothing alleged in this indictment all of is an indictment of football. Evidence at the spectacular collections of accomplishment -- dedicated student athletes and he goes on. It talks about all the accomplishments right of the student athletes of the great Penn State alarms that are out there in this world. Today doing great things and I agree with them open state. Great university go to get a great education. However those people right now. How they feel and this absolutely. Is a football -- I don't put -- everyone that went to Penn State. He's right in that regard I don't I don't look at anybody the -- and states -- to over involved in this. -- whole separate upon them -- there's that my schools get brought down by this just say this absolutely is a football scandal Joseph. This is all about your program this is all about you covering it up. And the people sitting there allowing that to cover up because football. Was Penn State you'll look Penn State in this is what you want it to cover it up. That's what this report shows more than anything the Joseph Paterno had his hand. It was all over this all all over the cover up well it also shows that you're right the idea a Penn State football and the the dream at Penn State football was put ahead of the wellbeing. Of children of kids -- or being sexually abused. Showered with. By Jerry sandusky so just by that matter. Absolutely a football issue. A start to pick your way through this and in this pop it's gonna come up and all met up pop the show I've changed my opinion about this. I didn't understand what it by my -- let me get to that. -- -- about the death penalty propensity couple a letting get it I don't understand why punish Philip Bryan. Why punish the kids involved. You start to read through this my mind is changed this thing's -- away a royal bride it should go away for a white guy you don't exist he gets thrown at job which you wanna take -- they would. -- get a college football ranks one had. Football coaching job in college and states there you take it. -- -- -- And bill O'Brien sit back and his is office right now just lean back and last year after maybe he's read the report or receipt all the stories going -- If this year and they take football away from us again. Eight -- like -- -- just to look at what's going on what happened there for years. Anybody could look at and say you know like you just said I didn't believe in the death penalty I didn't look at it this report. -- they should do away with the football program and look that's different from the criminal punishment that these guys are going to face hopefully for perjury charges it's different than the civil suits have a good golf for Penn -- that the pay a lot of money to the victims here because they areas we will go through here with you -- this morning. Very is a litany of evidence that proves that from 1998. On. Every one you think is important and state president vice president HD and football coach. The -- most powerful man at that school knew there was something wrong in 1998. They know about it including Joseph Paterno. The guy who made all the big decisions. Okay and as well Dick paper -- emails here and we'll explain via. They changed the course of action in a big big way when Joseph Paterno got involved I OK all weighed that in mind. It is a football story and because of that. I don't know what I don't years the death -- -- is -- a year -- two -- wait three years away from football. It is got to go away because they knew about this. They covered it up and it was because of the football program because a bad publicity for their number one money maker Penn State football. It's gotta go away move for acts about a year's because they knew about it they covered it up and they didn't care. They put they shield and had a well being of these kids. It's gotta go -- -- bill O'Brien. The way it has to be athletic one -- from the free report here on gore a lot of glory Geiger. Just through the so we'll have him on at 1215 years in state college will get his thoughts. As as a lot of these people are not try to rattle through this 267 page report. You know I have 266. Pages left much I've got through in the past our 401. -- we're working on you -- through what you -- it's it's a long report. But this one line. This is free and in in the report on the culture Penn State there's an old grip assists on the Penn State way as approached this is your decision making. He resistance to seeking outside perspectives. And an excessive focus on athletics. A lot lot of people -- sickness and yacht. So like Erika -- get paid breakfast club most dysfunctional family okay are we so much don't know right heavy because it is that when you said this is exactly what it is. No perspective no outside perspective and over emphasis on athletics basically the football program and Joseph Paterno power in that state the ability to cover some things up. It's. Mind boggling to speeding through just pieces of this some of the things that went on. Shouldn't -- I think a lot of people already for something like this to come out. But nice they're talking about you know Joseph Paterno the late Joseph Paterno. And taken down statues. You know taking names off libraries. Sorry to operate but that's what you look and a lot. I'll give you the most -- be sorry. If you look at this I'm not there's no apology necessary to be so hard for any of these guys now feel sorry for them they cover this up because it makes stupid football team. And stupid football program which I -- this reports of people basket I think -- free report PSU dot com or earlier if you'd if you if you're looking for the entire report. Google free report and freeze spelled FR EEH. Free report PSU. Google that you get your right to that report -- PDF file and it's expensive and -- work. Your players courtesy towards him page printed out but I think if you care about this -- -- follow it it's a good thing did you. I'll give you what I think is most damning part of this for Joseph Paterno. He waterfront a grand jury talked to a grand jury before he has -- -- from the start to go down he talked from the people involved. And he said he was unaware that any incidents. Prior to 2001. He set when Mike McQueary came to him that night. That was the first time that he knew of any of this that it was shocking news to him. That he was floored by it and that the response and his art may have been slow because he didn't really know how to handle. There's a time line in this report that now point right to go to page nineteen on the report what it is the most important stuff. And it goes back may fourth through May thirtieth. Of 1998. And at that time victims six it's not chronicled by you know victim 123 and orders his victims six the first victim. With a mother contacted state police about her son eleven year old I'm showering. In a -- building with on the painstaking at this with Jerry sandusky and in 1998. Please start in the investigation we all that went. We all heard about the police had a conversation with sandusky sandusky basically admitted it in 1998. Yes I showered him but it wasn't an appropriate. On the mother was still concern but everyone moved on get the but as part of the time line. -- Athletic director. Notifies Gary Schultz in -- and year VP and president that he is quote touch base with Paterno. About the incident. So in 1998. Joseph Paterno was made aware of -- not 2001. When Mike McQueary came forward after seeing sandusky shower -- victim number Q. But it 1998 Joseph Paterno knew about this. And between men and 2001. And eventually 2011. Did absolutely nothing. And I he's not the only guy is guilty here expand your Schultz early they're part what they -- the top Penn State with a report calls the top of Penn State. Covered this whole mess up. But -- new in 1998. For -- you still defending Joseph Paterno. Okay and wanna put the lakers on the put the blinders not I don't Joseph didn't know he was an old guy. He nearly in 1998 there was an incident involving a shower and is coached an eleven year old but he never heard nothing happened man's sex. There was that was hurting us customs of the Penn State people and okay that's the excuse on the Penn State people I'm telling you Louie freeh. 1998. -- was equal made aware quote touched base with Paterno -- about the instant the shower. And the number this is that a question -- 98 Joseph put his involvement. An influence. We come back here from breakout -- breakdown at three day period 2001. Okay on February 25 to February 27 that will show you just how much involvement and how much power a guy like Joseph Paterno. As -- of that nine seconds. In critical written correspondence that we uncovered. On March 20 of this year. We see evidence of their proposed plan of action. In February 2001. That included reporting allegations abouts and dust -- to the authorities. After mr. -- consulted with mr. Paterno. However. They changed the plan and decided not to make the report to the authorities. That the voice of Louis freeh the former FBI director who went to work and the support to -- -- 67 pages. Bill bullet dead spin and CNN. For report PSU dot com it's not -- 937. WEEI he just talked about. That's February 27 the email and -- may be Joseph paternal gotten -- and changed the course of we're all this went back in 2001 I believe you have the emails in your handle. Are the exhibit actually and -- then a seven page a media briefing report. He's talked about the the 25 with people agreed and 27 with a change of action. And -- -- thing missing was the conversation and obviously they couldn't talk to -- you couldn't talk to Joseph Paterno. Are part of the exit exhibit they have here is the handwritten notes. February 25 2001. Okay and none of this is coming down. I believe. Run. -- Napoli and Gary Schultz. And he says notes -- share number one. Tell -- Jerry sandusky to avoid bringing all children. Into the to build into campus on campus number to report the department welfare number three -- chair. At the second mile. Okay and and quiz question underneath it -- who's the chair. Now with that said he writes that. And then Schultz writes that Jim -- in an email -- Herbert 26. After agreeing that this is what they were gonna do the 25. Assistant unassuming and get that you've got the ball. Through number one. I don't know talk to the subject a separate going to future appropriate use of university facility -- sandusky with -- contacting the chair. Of the charitable organization that tomorrow it contacting department of -- where as you know by the office the next two weeks if -- needing to and from me. Please let me know. Those 26. That was the day that curly and -- a journal meth. After sitting down with Joseph Paterno and have to grant Spaniard Gary Schultz and Tim -- all sitting down with three of them agreeing. That this is the course of action that this is that what they're going to do. Okay that pretty much -- contact all these people let's let -- know what's going on February 25. 2001. In email. Comes back. From Tim Curley after meeting which -- paternal. And it says. You approach and receivers here. Yeah I had scheduled meeting with you this afternoon about the subject we discussed on Sunday at the giving it more thought. We talked at all with Joseph I'm uncomfortable with what we agreed the next steps. I'm having trouble going to every one but the person in -- I think -- be -- couple meeting with the person tell about the information we received. -- play at the tell them we are aware the first situation. I would indicate we feel there's a problem and we want to assist the individual to get professional help. Also we feel responsibility at some point soon to inform his organization. A good idea right. We feel responsibility at some point soon. To inform his organization and maybe the other one about the situation. If he's cooperative we work with him to handle informing -- organization if not. Not a choice Simone formed through groups. Additional relative note this guests are not committed to our facilities. To that was from Curley after meeting with Joseph Paterno and completely. Changing things up. Completely changing things that program expand your response to that. The president this gets bad the president of the of -- Penn state university response the Tim -- suggestion that we ought. Get rid of that approach to read it yes the you know one about telling everybody get rid of Crispin this approach is acceptable to -- you like it requires -- -- You may require legal step further meet your conversation. Will be all that more difficult but I admire your willingness to do that and -- supportive. Which -- book is what it's good the only downside for us. Is that the message isn't hurt and acted upon and then we become vulnerable. For not having reported. The -- be assessed down the road about like today the approach you -- as humane in a reasonable way to proceed. And then you get. Again from Schulze coming back pocket one got to send emails out the curly in us about a vacation -- that the that we talked about yesterday. -- changed his mind Spaniard thinks it's humane. Beautiful thing but yeah we could be vulnerable that gets reported that -- comes back this some more humane and up front way to handle. I can support this approach with the understanding that we root -- -- organization with the without his cooperation -- the consortium proposed I'm not so sure that's -- -- proposed. But the fact that these three gentlemen. Okay the president of the university the vice president of the university athletic director got together and determined there gonna start telling people here contacting people. And then Joseph Paterno walks in with him currently dean and next thing you know. Change the plant up and everybody's finally that. -- -- -- -- Or downsize if it gets out. We might be vulnerable and what you expect. -- that's the downside not the downside isn't for them that more children might be amused by abused by this monster Jerry sandusky. There -- downside again goes back to Penn State football bad publicity. Yell the free report details this point for point and -- breaks down one more point important point to this we -- but Joseph Paterno how much power yet. He convince them to change their mind on a reasonable course of action and they kept it in house. Following that they talk to -- asking. Said weren't comfortable don't bring kids in the shower anymore he continue to do so after 2001. And that was second mile after that. Second -- leadership concluded the matter but one query matter -- product in the shower. Is a not incident and they took no further action there're plenty of people to blame here. But in terms of Joseph Paterno. Not knowing in 1998. Balls. In terms of Joseph Paterno was Lou just told you he never a danger impact on this NG he didn't know balls. He steps and they changed the approach. They changed the approach because of Joseph Paterno. And look there's a paternal statue on the campus he alluded to. That's that -- -- come down today. And state can't -- lot in the immediate aftermath the free report but is they pick through and they comb through. What we are reading today you guys to reading and reacting to get all your reaction here. That thing is gonna come down as he knew about it he lied about it. -- covered -- up for football on the Louis and in in that report also worry free points -- after that February 2001. Instant the world which console -- played out for your -- Sandusky engaging improper conduct with at least two more children -- built. Since 2001 probably to a more and two children but will stick with two children. Both assaults may well have been prevented if Spaniard -- Paterno Curley had taken additional actions to safeguard children. University facility redoubt last line again form please -- assaults may have well been prevented. If Spaniard Schultz maternal and -- and take additional actions safeguard children. This is what it all comes down to doesn't. I mean as far as the findings go to -- that opening line did you read opening line of his findings. Is that just broke it down the most saddening and sobering findings is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of sandusky victims but most senior leaders at Penn State. The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps. For fourteen years to protect children who sandusky victimized. Spaniard Schultz Paterno -- Never demonstrated to actions all words any concerns for the safety and wellbeing of the victims until after sandusky arrest. Report also -- on a stated in this entire group -- callous and shocking disregard. For sandusky victims yeah and that's our look at ripped through the report the bottom line is. Joseph Paterno has passed. Some might wish that he was still alive the kind of face the music okay F I -- hearing all of this right now. It's it's it's even worse in the fact turning a blind guy in knowing it in convincing. Powerful men at Penn State to it to turn a blind guy and just try to get this -- professional help. What. What about the kids. Regrettable that the guy -- care about the guy's got an absolute monster that's going around. With children it on your campus. Joint things that you're aware of you wanna give him help. To help with the children. Haven't stopped -- about the kids from 2001. Until his final rest. You know that that they took advantage of what are we what are we doing here and you worried about Jerry sandusky. Guy's office is right next to you. For years your sister coach for years. It's it's. And Louie -- just to kind of give an update there imagines the former FBI director who put together this report on Penn State. He was the guy who they put in charge of the USC report Reggie Bush allegations went through that fine tooth comb found everything there. I was involved the bounty gate work to write me went through and looked at. That and what happened there with the New Orleans Saints this guy has a track record of getting info and we'll keep you look for Penn State you get everything you want it. The pilot information leads the free report today two and 67 pages of absolute football broad program. And I don't know light -- suspended or try to spin and a letter that it wasn't a football problem it was a football problem because they cared more about the football program. And they did these care if I was -- it alone might -- the emirates a football problem. Well my prom what -- -- and education. Which try to say it's a football problem how to dispel scandal how to keep that statue up on campus and understand how the other athletes out the other student athletes that were involved in a football program. Involved and this is eternal everybody and it's absolutely a football scandal. Put this on the school. The one allow this thing to go on the football coach you run that place. You guys are lined up patiently ready to react we view it's 6177790852. All 388852. Fives the early fifty. We immediately get to your phone calls next.
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