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Patriots Draft 2012: CSNNE's Tom E. Curran's take

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Fri, 27 Apr 2012|

We talk with our third man in for the day, the venerable Tom E Curran for his in depth take on what the Pats have done so far in the 2012 draft.

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  1. Cam Newton3:08, 3:30, 3:53
  2. Rob Ninkovich6:53
  3. Willie McGinest9:34
  4. Andre Carter10:03
  5. Mark Anderson11:37
  6. Trent Dilfer17:00
  7. Ty Warren10:27
  8. Bill Belichick4:17, 7:36
  9. Kelly Johnson8:54
  10. Cleveland Browns19:30

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The man from the end and Tommy -- Who has finished it with. Or something. Now. I'm going to be decent stuff it on Ide power or sloppy seconds. -- It is an apartment in terms. And use the view quick that. Pacifica. Priced from 53 quarters moments ago. We needed five degree. In Oakland and altitude. And I think it. Realizes that all season he says it appears he wants it worked it into my last one rate history. -- -- -- -- -- -- I did it for the betterment. -- Thank you. Know. Certainly. What do Mike and probably a lot of these extra frequently. C drive record not. -- -- and I thought I did not like him as an analyst for the games in the film to something. Are too much information. When -- watch this game be brutal. It's tremendous. Applaud those actually prepared the others -- having -- left back right. Hear yourself talk -- -- -- the days. And right. He would know it well he was wearing that votes they weren't on and he was still talking which is an amazing can. Actually do that. But tremendous. Remotely prepared -- knows everybody in the draft is great one. Excited to get to me and it of people I know going back and forth. I'm sure between ESP NFL network went and started to get to me was the cartwheels stunned by the NFL network analyst for every. Single. Pick everything was a great move everything was a can't miss everybody liked what they did that we -- -- brings an edge here and there I don't like it. Good you -- a wanna hear a little more I don't like it. They'll we we like that from diaper but we need adults we -- I -- culprit but a lot of bill Tobin says terroristic hyper now just to for a few -- entertainment -- gruden loves everything he -- multiply it but that's during the game. Groups because every nowlin on Iraqi from pro football weekly who's tremendous drafting analysts -- not a -- tutor to -- any degree. And I read the quick hopefuls. Review lists the play of the jets took. Beats up led the ACC in envelopes to kill a political they are they -- kill Obama who's that guy. Who's a guy who ripped him and that's Barack arsenal and so -- -- take your quarters weren't the only he's carved many people and I'll tell you its interest -- actually did this. And write about it but it looked back -- -- found is 06 when it comes to personal. A valuations. About character. In intangibles he is excellent so. Cam Newton had a terrific first year we'll see how it all adds up he may be the exception no it's gonna go on to that other stuff but he did a -- tie knots. Lamb basting of Kim do you did audio and it's -- that took whatever they're proud of don't Tommy that works it looks like he was dead wrong on that when you send somebody saying that it's something to be proud of -- -- -- -- the observation that wasn't one di tale that he found redeeming. About Cam Newton. Not being a front there was not one so he was pretty much. Convinced and convicted that that was I was going to be generally he's been right give Newton's front it's going to be high profile as the you know -- violated no we have qualities perfect he -- murdered. On it is perfect in the news before a lot of people did. You know it was it was interesting to read I would not hold the Cam Newton although it's highly publicized one. Is wrong so you can count on -- -- lead in the AFC east of Dallas phone Paul Allen last -- -- -- can all the picks before everybody gets a memo. -- did not get the memo what. What did you think of of what the patriots did. The move and the players involved in the today I think they're two separate things a lot -- focus on the on the move the action it's so. Counter to what Bill Belichick usually does and what do you think of the place. I think on the move. And it was something that I it had a feeling in had had indications of in the last. Four weeks I'd mention that there's a likelihood they move up now moving up I thought was going to be to target a player like Mark Barron. What would you look at this group they're. Our teams in and scouts that I talked to think it's finally got a -- 1112 guys swept first round value guys first round grades fortunately for them. The price drops of radically the teams weren't trying to parachute out of the first round since whatever would take the best guy available. When that defense event outside linebacker ran. Began it was close to ending. They had to run up and make that move for. For -- Jones I love the fact they moved up because for so many years they've been selling everyone on promise. And this is for the vests. Long term interest of the team of people would say you know you do something but when you take eight players in 2000 and an eight players in 2011 who make the team -- sixteen players it was time to you know. Put that help wanted sign aside and go get some you know. Want to comment thanks so much -- it and and and people have said well -- been stubborn for the last nine years and therefore that's why hasn't moved up. I think he's just what the rules -- He's going to adjust to the rules if you watch it why is the scheme and offensive juggernaut and defensively they -- Because he suddenly discovered a few years ago that the league was going offense and so he took the the genius cap off from defense until I got to go to the other site how is it any different in what he did yesterday in that the rules have changed. So now they're for a -- move up. You don't get burned that badly because of the new collective bargaining agreement and the way that every single position -- -- and that's conversation I have with with the Iraqi and so it's like Vegas you're. The ethnic -- Enough talk let's coming in three years to prove a good look -- Ronald Brock or perhaps just stating that it. I mean Steve when asked what. I think -- would you look at that talked about rocky and it -- -- about this is understating the value of the draft -- it's not just the fixed cost but it's also looking at -- and it's just defense week to these offenses. With the rules changes but the fast break offense a style -- you do that. You're gonna see a lot of 245 I think -- right element. The elements will be -- the personnel might be different -- might be down on the ground if only but you'll see two defensive linemen four linebackers five TDs or. Some mix in the Aaron in you can do that both Jim Jones and Donta hightower obviously Rob Ninkovich is -- guy can do that with. You could do the same thing with Trevor Scott of the acquired so you've got that versatility in the middle. If he gets dropped back it's it's an interesting move and I think that's a change at. Parcells -- -- -- the other amenities they sit -- drafting right now you're going -- get players you want -- you want safety. Because so many plays now you're dealing with five -- being slash DBs and seven -- sort of thing. And that's what we're talking about earlier with would Mark Barron he got a you gotta change the rules a bit about how you look at safeties have been safeties who have some coverage ability or a lot of coverage ability. Will go -- -- option and that we were seen it before we've seen safeties -- hi Bill Belichick took Eric -- second many years ago its first draft. But general rule of thumb is. You can get those guys late in the first round and get those guys in the second round not so much and you know war. So Mark -- When hired then people thought it would I think I think it's hard to -- -- -- -- -- games I think you're damn right -- Scott Pioli was waiting for. I honestly -- I think you lose -- format I don't know. He was waiting for. He's either a linebacker. And we know very well from Boston College -- either waiting for him are waiting for parents you give either. How much value do you think there is in players it based on how many plays. They're going to be out there on the field. -- there are a lot of specialty players right now where there's not as much of a running game. That if if a guy can only notable run and really keys stay in a liability for you in a passing given your limited unit in his first. I'm -- and that question was answered last night I asked a little bit vote. The versatility of hightower bill Belichick's that he rarely came off the field defense so that means that's what all the things that pops in his mind when describing his abilities. So first and second -- you have a 266. Pound linebacker who in some ways you read his profiles and watch a player that's Kelly Johnson. But he also has the ability to swing outside in Russian mafia to hate the in the dirt about Nazi in the entered thank day. But he also like their product there it's a cliche but I like a guy like in the -- -- -- security in the dirt but he -- -- can also. I'll go play in space. If you're not a -- way it's -- but he didn't do little but -- at Alabama because yet -- behind me at -- a -- for behind him. But he does apparently have the ability to drop if necessary. And with Jim Jones I think it's Greg Bedard wrote this in the immediately tweeted that's your hybrid. He fits the suit of the quote unquote elephant right he does which is what. Willie McGinest was right we're excited about that -- -- -- -- for awhile though I don't yeah I don't think he's he's ready to come in and play and get the direct it and I'm ready -- and start you got it coming into all the things will we did -- that's another interesting one it if there's. This were a year ago. Couple years ago before we had. The lock in. Dollars for each position. Would Bill -- co -- And get a player like this that's not gonna have an impact -- team the first year you're gonna use Trevor Scott you're gonna use Andre Carter in a position probably. He's not gonna have a set this. Guy I think -- I think he was all right because he's done in the past and I think however -- not necessarily due to a three year. I what -- -- -- project but he's still a three years away I don't know what you lot don't. These two or three years but -- maybe you're one they've done this before your -- events that did it. And they get to do that they didn't get it was last year we did with Ty Warren his first unit of different units are here and second you know. And as as Tommy said I never Richard Neer. The rain. Last man and he was a first round pick but -- second round pick. You would think you expect I gotta come in and and play contributors first period it. So there. They always talk about developing draft picks on their terms and I think this might be another example of. One other thing that was a good observation of the up agreed last night was -- tonight. I should I set it to. But he had a desire to show you today everybody else on the market credit -- in addition to what you -- is this week I've. Got to ring three it was a rating -- the. Anyway. Shall we social mansion I don't know if you guys -- my -- She might have your market data migration out out here before everybody's day to all and a guy she really -- you know -- -- -- -- But surely -- in the gym doors jacket she's actually reporting which ignores Jenkins is not clear the patriots aren't stupid to Michael Michael thanks -- Michael -- the first round last night I don't like -- get the BD elected you have that -- back to the other thing. What's the other without Mark Anderson and -- economy and -- situation. Man that's something equally important -- -- plea levels stick with the point because don't ask emotionally -- I was so register which sells them somewhere here -- jail which owns. You could put one thing honestly say you know what. Mr. telephone arms to run that way canceling those arms around here 35 -- times. -- -- Keep it simple for -- in the first year it's too late to get married him. After that and it ended any dismissed that he swung around. As if somebody just hit him from behind and I'm telling you there's nobody behind you -- lecture at the eye of the legacy that. He's a 35 -- I. Well let me -- I mean the people in this room now piper. Lives in Baltimore. And I found all this out a lot about the last three days he lives in Baltimore. He tried to hang around the practices operatic what Teddy was approached earlier this didn't come from Teddy -- -- from another -- But he always wanted to work in the NFL he has no credentials to work in the NFL they are just hung around nobody ever party. He's never been hired by anyone. When the colts moved here he was very very upset so every chance that now I forget to shoot at the colts in Indianapolis he's gonna do. I have nabbed three minutes to take a shot back at him what I said there probably 300 personnel people in the league would like to upset the as I walked down the runoff hallway there Tom Donahoe called me and said that I will one -- Ringing endorsement of the whole steeler organization thank you for -- and that was Tom Donahoe you reaches out to everyone. I got a sister in Burlington junction Missouri. And we -- William Perry back in eighty or 85. I talked her two days later she so why do you take that but yet. And I said it is to have to believe me was that it was the best available and he was the best available. But I mean now I forget speed is faster it gets to your mother he gets -- everybody. I just read somebody wrote the article about the receiver down here at Indiana in about three years ago was supposed to be in the third or fourth round by -- piper. He never was -- when he signed as a free agent. He heard that yet. But there's others he's hurt listen doing trash people that's I can't do this this guy's dumb this guy can't do that. And unfortunately some of the college coaches out there thank the -- piper is part of the National Football League inner circle and he doesn't. Mark carrier when we bring it -- -- now meg meg here at a TV show with him at 1030 that night we sat down their revenue for the show before I. Before it happened and he said you know I've mr. Tobin. I thought I was a pretty darn good football player and how I got to Chicago and we play -- that day and all I -- as a criticism and it all came from ESP and -- I love it. Milk -- when he doesn't even make fun of -- -- ones. That's pretty total -- pretty impressed. Isn't it was like the Missouri. Because or get your mother don't get to your system but the fact it in the for an adequate. Body when -- TV news and other organs when you said. Milk milk harper doesn't know it but that's my next born in my next Norton earth. At. More qualifier -- -- You know aren't they these guys. The -- league in the they hate when it was pulled back just a little bit as it is intricate it's complex sometimes as intricate and complex. Like to make it sound like you've been involved. And watched of sausage gets made right. It's it is is a lot that goes to a lot goes into it there's also a lot of -- that goes into it and get. Mark piper piper was right in those guys. That he criticized. Secret. It was the guy went up -- freest and -- now knows Albert ruling that out of Albert it's the first. It was Trevor Albertson's somebody else. But he he he wound up being right so -- and have the credentials to be in the league and he hurts people and he need take shots but. There are times he's been right listen so far no I mean I did the same thing you guys to go back and forth between you know. NFL network in ESPN and it's it's great stuff it's great -- I actually. Said this earlier -- I think it was better last night. That they did not allow. Anybody to -- the exception of Paul Allen apparently can do whatever you -- since world. But they did not allow them to do it so that was a little bit more theaters now if you were following people like Q and others on Twitter stuff was leaking out shortstop was getting up. But overall the TV experience I thought was that they did a much better job and the commission. What do commission it was a marvelous. -- -- when it got there were numerous guys agency that you know it's halfway through exactly hotel -- a little shake things you know can always do that that the little who do that Orlando Cabrera the deficit that could say they had done yet through it -- rehearse that they think they practice in the after I think about that lets you do a Melvin -- let's just tiny arms. You're surprising to lot of them love them now -- those little question a question by the way it was that Trevor -- -- he ripped them for taking Trevor -- instead of Trent Dilfer. Both guys. -- -- And that adjustment -- that -- Cali what do they do to choose. No three no four no five no six dose of it is built going to get. Lonely knowing that. There might be that a great risk guy beyond the second round certainly in the last three rounds that he likes to take it may not get undrafted status. Yet it made 356. Since 20073. Round in an after they've had guys they've hit on effect as they missed on two especially the wide receiver spot with. Taylor Price and in Brandon Tate jump in mind but. You have to think at some point they're gonna try and fill that you don't wanna sit there from. Pick number 62 to 250. Honey do that when you only have 22 you'd have to give up you've got to want to play out it down the most likely guy thought. And it's checking on this most likely guy you have to look at as being a player as if they could. Deal and get. Maybe a couple of guys back or draft picks that will be Brian Hoyer. As a restricted free agent who has signed his tender he is eligible to be traded and he is under contract. For 2012. But what team would want to treat serious setback third or fourth for Brian we're not knowing that he'll have back so. What would have to happen is it would have to be conversation between warrior. Between -- agent and that the team its interest it. Really prior to the deal being mates and they know okay -- you're going to be a long term -- previous three years nine million dollar contracts on good do you think you'll. You all want so many women if it if the team is going to give your fourth or fifth. For Brian Hoyer and you put a second round tender on the guy boy what's what's the purpose. You might well that's why as well keep -- in camp and see if he has a good camp in good pre season and it's nice and be so he freaks and maybe you get something out of them but not now. They usually -- -- -- say go ahead get a three we -- a couple four is just hate. I'm not. Disputing the fact that he's got a second round tender -- him. Van but the price can certainly drop if nobody bit on that tender irony. But it's really the only guy could see they get multiple picks on -- not -- wide receivers. Maybe some offensive line depth but again a lot of that's failed here we tell what they have. So it's it's hard to see them dealing any players for picks. And be interesting to see what the teams would wanna do something like that when they have an opportunity and there's a couple quarterbacks. Up there on board right now now. Hoyer Porter has been around like champions and go awful lot of experience a juicy argument who'd you rather have him Cleveland Browns missed this doesn't make any sense mean would you rather have created Wheaton. Who we news that the 28 year old boy is a good -- right would you rather have brand of -- who just washing ashore in the NFL now or Brian Hoyer. Who has three years NFL experience in the most successful sophisticated office of its generation accurately answer I think Clinton would rather have weed out anyone. Because it stirs up the fan base a lot more well that's that's more -- Any airport and even though even though it -- -- idea is more of a player right now there are any -- is younger than we. Much -- we yielded just a sales so you got a court here. Who is generally although we have played we have really had played much received. But he's been in the league and he's younger and this guy. Is is 28 point nine years old and you don't know what you gonna get out of rookie quarterback at twentieth when I -- him three years to develop I mean it'll get out now he's not elected to replace them. By the time he starts do you come into his own. But it -- in ulcers as we're talking earlier about north Jenkins and how. I thought the patriots to go form and the reason I'm still not ready to dismiss it despite the reports. Is that. He is a top ten talent. Who still on board. And he has judgment issues and he has character issues all that stuff but. In the NFL. If you got that kind of talent somebody. Is gonna take a chance when it hits and we know the patriots have taken chances on players before it hit. It's maximum. At some point the mass effect is felt by OK the value of this player here. -- way up by draft wouldn't chart where he's ranked but we have aside next whose name -- has not taken mr. characters you. And and his -- model white space between him and everybody else. Finally we have to do it and I think Ryan mallet is the absolute perfect example of a situation. Where they did it and enter the 2011. -- and well idiot -- -- -- and third he says no case -- news third with this quarterback on the board of of a good quarterback group. And a first round talent and by the time -- 65 camera oh crap don't take this what would month. I'll take them what had happened and yet if let's set prior to restrict it's still sitting -- this figure does most. They're gonna out of here here's the B word again he has value he doesn't have value if he's he's a guy that's got some issues. If you're drafting him. In the top ten even though he is. As a perfect. It snowed here as the talent at all and has a talent but at some point it's critical mass for him apps at some point it's that the so I think what you gonna to the second certainly if you -- get into the third round you look at it Jenkins who. Is one of the needs for them at that position he's a return as well. To me it's like you've got my Cuba and years and he's a perfect money I guess from -- -- my. Hey here's -- here's another factor of predictive. All right. I thought he could go in this in the first round. But if you look at it you're trying to get their message across this guy you're trying to hobble him trying to get his attention to get things that he didn't go in the first for a because. He goes in the first round if it really becomes. See you knew what was the first round talent of course nobody took me here Oak Ridge north yes you -- that we've -- -- -- -- got your attention now. You have first round counts and there's no doubt no one questions. His ability to play the game. But this it's all the other stuff you got first round talent you had a night to sleep on this. In the second round. You're not as great as you think you are you've got some things to learn. We're gonna bring you have got to break you down it goes back occasionally skittish in the hunt who's better at doing that right. I can say I can see. Some of that some of the stopping some of the places some of the rehab places in the league are Philadelphia Newton. New England. Is one of whom you don't wanna go to Oakland since and I don't help Oakland Oakland statement adding deeper in Miami yes it's red and got a -- -- -- -- -- yeah that that gives it doesn't work out for you but it gives some of the good good teams can get away with it. For the most part. It's a good solid strong group of guys in the secondary was in the same group a few years ago. And it wasn't because they would necessarily bad guys on springs was not a bad guy who's just had seen it all in the NFL. And he wasn't here to wet nurse anybody I think this group now is younger. -- extremely professional. -- Ras I Dowling. The group back -- is a professional group to bring somebody in 60 excellent on the way to behave and that you know the position groups stick together. It's not beyond the pale but why don't keep it -- -- -- your -- to boycott from Georgia. He returns a lot of football team play a little offense ways in which doing an animal run around over there. In these agree very good corner -- is that where they go corner safety. And second round here I think this is classic classic best player available regardless of position offensive line running back Cyrus grant from Texas a and -- Now somebody else hit some money on that -- fare from Texas and it Chris -- from Washington to -- with that because net interest increased focus of -- pass catching. Guy in the draft and protects hello football. Might. Gonna take a break and we're gonna get to the phone calls on agenda some talking here at 6177790850. Toll free 888525. Zero only fifty load up the lines -- don't you next election. You know that's the big thing about me you know -- in an Alabama was on the precedent of them adamant that they pretty fast and now this here's my job and -- -- ago most of the game now. So on different look forward to -- to get into it and and seen how much different days. From from what I did that would bump between here are things can be that big of restricts. But do you know different terminology going to be different. So I'm -- -- the before do you know got to get the public in my and they get to work. Thought they had to our resolve this in the first hour of the program Jim Jones. You'd be out here in Foxborough this afternoon -- car. Is sitting right next right now is our third and as we broadcast which. Life down here in Foxboro. Let's get some -- doesn't let you talk a little bit about this -- let's go to Tom Thomas Galvin the in the case. Arm of has gone well Brian we get our ideas are still live at. She is good -- bad -- and because authorities older player Ambien all the players. But still rookie who won against the ravens defense utility that I critically rather employer because lawyer -- comfortable. You know they're gonna tell you you've been through a couple of champions like you said. And athletic like a pretty -- about a quarter. One thing he had the problem with the -- gonna deal Colt McCoy right and it. Apparently the conversations have gone -- Green Bay apparently looking for a man but -- -- replacement. We are I think wait until training can actually I would joke. Well it was -- scary but it's a good point that Tom springing up is east twentieth how long is it going to take him to ramp up. To the pro game and it's not like he's done with the with a real good. OK all right you can get eased into it like you're like I said UK and the Steelers and the ravens' past patrol cars -- -- an -- How about Cincinnati pretty good -- Yes that's. -- good. I don't I mean 33 playoff games through a little point of that division is the wide ranging need to me. Quarterback splashes whether it's Bryant Brandon -- you almost got me collar. Whether it's creative Sweden or write to any you know whether it's Jimmy Clausen sat around for the Panthers a couple of years ago would skip on down. Understandably so for Cam Newton or whether it's Colt -- it's at least -- on forward with a -- Jake Locker. -- Blaine Gabbert. In any other number of quarterbacks in the gulf port -- but you know teams are constantly cycling through I really think that. If I was an NFL general manager head coach at -- for the guy. Who doesn't have that draft a sexiness but might be a -- in type and LB Brian Hoyer. It yeah like pistols -- reached a low -- -- far and they become about a probably a better quality quarterback in the second round -- didn't bring him leading. Why I don't know if they could have gotten quote a better quarterback in the sector around maybe they could have gotten a better player at 22 where they took Wheaton. But they say they felt that they had to do something about their off their offense it's pathetic. And they helped helped a great deal by picking up Richardson who's a hell of -- -- of that but. You that they got a long way to go -- do need a quarterback I don't know Wheaton is the guy but on the Colt McCoy TI. I enjoy what I might be better I don't -- convince a Colt McCoy is not an NFL. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Despite what bill told them once talk about the group levels of complexity I think if you look back at step back there's decisions made that a so far. A field from simply on the field. Issues which is kitty quick quarterback not -- we have -- to -- no we don't have title Devoe was bringing another guys -- what's puzzling about Sweden. By the time if you let's say best case scenario he turns out to be a terrific quarterback. But by the time he becomes a terrific quarterback he's really different topic here. Putt -- that that that team is ready to win right. I mean it's gonna take issue it's not the right team here and I and I like the fact that Miami stake in general and basically said we get just the same guys that would have gone number one and number. -- same got to go to Washington -- to hide if they think that yeah they think clearly I think it -- than what they're ready to I don't know what is the big cities the if you played as many games as lucky break -- there was no I'm sorry I was a -- can wide receiver coming into college. Into luck has been groomed to be a quarterback closed life in Robert Griffin the third could probably thinks circles around. Both players so I don't think that -- -- you know I mean that's just it's you know. So and we just spent your money selling hope they have Beckett out of Miami they had by the loving season ticket holders. In recordings that was being disseminated down South Florida -- it's right Danielle excited -- dolphins get ready gonna have a great season down here. Go to the canceled out of Miami actually think he's calling them personally to buy tickets how's Miami -- -- got a question. What question did Jeff Ireland asked him that was person in the -- in the private as a vocalist but his mom but his -- and let me ask him privately. I here's -- Maine hello Matt. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- A question I keep hearing that they read in the -- traded up. What because not a access slaughtered right and it's been caught that much to let. Last year at that point first pick in the draft. But eight point one million dollar before year's all guarantee. Do we know what the 21 pick you're going earned this year. I'd like the current. I -- put a circle back to this as we discussed it because in essence what you get past the top five. The player's actual level. Slotted by what the guy in front of them signs for relative to last year so. While it is more to fix last we have made an issue about saying that the class are more predictable. There's a lot of the. Entering into and I think we all. My second out of out of town on second and I think we also have to say this. The reason it didn't happen in the past there are two reasons it didn't happen in the past you have a currency BA. And more specifically for the patriots there wasn't always a player that they wanted to trade up for I mean we've been saying in the media fans. Straight up trade up trade up. Part of the reason they don't trade up sometimes just because they don't want to they don't see any body that to work it now in this case. They were concerned that there was going to be a run on channel -- somebody else is gonna get a they would have to get up. They thought somebody else you gonna get high tower they went up to get them if they had information that. High tower was going to be either guy and they can hold on to 31 and he would -- to them they would've waited for. Although it's about getting and I like I'm more excited to hear that. But it seemed like all day even actually like common theme. -- that now that the -- slotted the patriots more value to its. -- vitro yeah I think -- -- -- -- No I do I do believe that's part of the equation -- part of it is absolutely part of you -- values out -- now Leno. And Aaron. Now I don't know it's not as a factor is the opponent but to bill it is the top reason is is not entirely accurate it it is a component when you look at this out of those ridiculous contracts being handed out of marginal free agent wide receivers a month ago. Okay lot of that is because in the new CPA. The money that was going to rookies has been re distributed the whole. The whole factor and -- It's much more convoluted now but the entire way of do we know mathematics has made destruction so that veterans make more money. In free agency now the rookies coming into the weeks and that's part of the tweaking it's going on the money still being spent but it's more fixed with these. First round as the slots are going to generally be the seem very good question of how much will it exactly be I don't know that per say right now but. What these guys -- saying. You look at that why would -- obligates you Jones. Well and it's fixed price at 21 but more importantly -- McClellan had just come off the board Melvin Ingram a couple of that we -- there was a run right now they're like yeah what Butler in the past guys when there's been a run at a specific position. Bill has taken advantage of it and gone for another position because that that was higher -- -- -- wouldn't let him to a victory that with. Last year. To go down they traded weren't straight duplicate certificate indictment right below. It straight yet could saints wanted Ingram the patriots. Went back in and got this first round this year so essentially they traded. They traded Ingram. Four -- they'll pick that became. That the victim I don't -- hightower -- out. Now I don't know because that's I was Jones. There's 27 what etc. and you're 2030 -- -- patriots 3125. Became high -- 2721 became Jones -- victory traded Ingram. We're Jones and they also picked up from the same state picked up a third rounder last year an ideal. So is that third rounder was that that became Ridley -- so they've they've basically traded Jones they have they got Jones and relieve the -- got marketing group. You know the thing is that you don't know exactly. The -- don't know exactly. Whether he's good year old. Blessed to glow with -- thing right before -- -- but it. Well you know if you're into reading all the other writer Russia what they're that I absolutely it's actually wanted we just wanted to make you feel old today that's all. What did you look at I tell going to second -- going first hotel was here he said to -- -- thought when they'll move -- up it will open up for him you know what they might have been at the time. The thing is that they might have seen some of the team on the board. Got wind that somebody else was going for Jones yeah I think it was interesting we're Pittsburgh wise. Just before the high -- -- 44 they went with -- to Castro of the the garden obviously they need offensive line -- -- no doubt about it. But that was a pick that you -- they've gone all may be Pittsburgh is gonna gonna make the move right there that's how scary these things get and you've been there before -- you don't talking about. Yeah and is is funny is not always a flurry of of exercise constant buzz but when things are happening. It's the action is so fast and so it's almost at warp speed than it slows down again so I'm sure they had they they would they were called for a while phones are ringing. And then it's getting close to their pick got to coming off the board. They're frantically trying to find people to either trying to frantically trying to find trade partners we get to trade partners they make the deal. Then it comes down again so I mean that's how it works like this constant. Wall Street -- now. Question is will become after today we're gonna find out that they do anything else. We get back to file called blow them up 617779085888. Occupy a 0850. Got it covered a third minute. It's the picture we're live down here at patriots draft headquarters until it's been.

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