Rob Bradford, WEEI.com, update on David Ortiz arbitration hearing

Welcome back Dennis and Callahan as we told you sometime today in saint Petersburg Florida the Red Sox will send their team and headed up by bench Harrington. And David Ortiz will go in with his agent Fran. Fernando who's -- seeking sixteen and a half billion dollars in arbitration Red Sox offering twelve point 65. Rob Bradford is on the ground in Saint Petersburg WBI dot com hey Bradford how are you a guy more or do you have any sense of -- house's goal is going to -- because I'm I'm reading that both sides. Think they have a very strong case.

I think it's fascinating I think that if there was any sense that we could really listen OK you know what it's gonna go this way they were very settled by -- his. We know it's been well documented Red Sox haven't got a lot of these things. 2002 in the Orlando or -- they haven't won one. You know that I think that it's a very very unique case -- and we can go up and down quite unique but it -- the big swing for the they do yes you'll look at. The difference here and you look at that money over three billion dollars in different. And if they lose this -- could potentially be a significant player trade deadline that they don't don't you're you're don't have the money.

does not come down I thought it was an -- an arbiter but it's a panel of three. It and in its most simple terms whether they decide that David is already overpaid at twelve point whatever million dollars. Vs David sides saying look at the year he had last year annually give him -- 150000 dollar -- is sort about a boils down to little bit.

Well it it's a little more complex than apple what I think that the best way to look at it in regards to how they can decide this thing -- that the number fourteen point 575. Million dollars it is a war if they think he's one dollar more work that. -- that. Then you win if he won -- less than they want. That's what it comes down to it's it's kind of a bizarre situation by there's different there's different categories they look at -- about five categories player's contribution. Like that consistency over the over the past few years -- compensation. Comparative salaries. Recent performance by the club although you're gonna factor and so up and it's going to be very very complex thing.

I heard -- one nests and analyzing this from down there rob and he said they can't mention his age. Is that true.

While. I don't know about that I'd be out the what if you can imagine where you career you can well you know I don't think you'd say well look he he. People -- up these numbers. And these 36 years old so forget about it.

Many -- real wage. Do you think it may be that meant that. There are many guys can keep it up putting keeps slugging and home and home runs drive in runs. At 36 of 37 it's you know eventually. Everybody gets old and big in a big -- sluggers and get a hold from buy by this point.

Obviously that's why we're at this point everywhere at this point if it network news putting up these numbers that thirty years old they're probably paying it. You know so it's certainly need to win the from the red cart point of view -- factors then but if he does -- I mean guys this is going to be not even close the biggest salary. For -- mediate. In the history --

I'd set a rough estimate. Brought them if you agree I'd say he'll be making about twice. What the market value for good DH is that sixteen for one year. I'd say he'd be worth on the open market sixteen for two years.

Yeah and and you don't want that's why he accepted arbitration. It because if you you know that -- You think you don't wanna go into this obviously -- player does that he would. Prefer to go into the free agent market and try to make your money there but you know what the market wise. -- The market if if you're close to that so this that the way you could make the most money.

Why didn't the Red Sox let him go to get to free agency and and say you know mobile top whatever you can get -- Huckabee sixteen million bucks.

Well because the app that magnetism and offered arbitration to potentially get a draft pick if he does find somewhere else. Though they they offer arbitration. You know and they're probably think hey you know what we hope he -- it accept arbitration real obviously I think they hope they work something out beforehand but he does picked up arbitration and then -- given that it got a map they're now.

Do we assume that David's going to be in the conference room rob. Yeah you will be so let's sort of high the Red -- hands behind their back just a bit because will -- charges is look at him he's not Jay got is saying it opened his belly like because you don't David as well as anybody there's a sensitivity to this guy I mean he got mad when people -- just. Posting his numbers. A couple of years ago when he got off to a horrible start criticizing him they were to say David as an at home run 150 at bats got sensitive and got little snippy and he got touchy. Is that potential they are today with him hearing the Red Sox present a case against him.

Short and that's why that you don't wanna get to this point that's why they have -- under. Or big reason why they haven't on this from 2000 to me you have to also factor in personality but that -- so unique in the difference between acute side there is so great that. As we sit here right now it is what no way around now with some guys mean that they hearing polian -- afternoon so they could make -- they could come to an agreement before that we. Resist those examples of that Willy Mo Pena was. We've done on the steps. -- that they were going into the room a few years ago. So you know I -- your -- it's a good point -- I think it's one that their very well aware of but it's something that you this topic get around if you go to.

You know it's amazing -- he could win. And still be pissed he gets he can win and still be disgruntled for two reasons he said it's only one year deal. And they got personal they talked about his decline is age may be used and it vitamins. They can bring that up Goodman.

Yeah they're not gonna do that so I guarantee I'll guarantee you're out. You're out who you're absolutely right that that he could be pissed about all those different things and you're absolutely right that if he wins. He could still be. There's no question about it because you get -- Rohm and also when you have the guy who you think you've done your team on you paid a lot. You know you're not that -- here you're not that good there where you look at it hey you know in the past two years. I put up a better open yet and Prince Fielder the why am I even here. So yeah I think it even if you win this WB development of putt -- discomfort.

I don't think the players should be allowed the -- should wish to change the rule and that's much more fun with the men nodded and and what what what will what will the teams say when he says. At a federal or his guy cruises says he is a better hope he has breaks up the charts and graphs and slide shows and has better hope TS in the last two years. Then Prince Fielder obviously better numbers all across the board then and Adam -- what does the team's --

On it I'm so that he padlock on an argument to -- mean that the biggest argument that bail out against them is the position. And denied that it before that you look at the contracts. You look at the biggest right now Travis Hafner side deal fourteen point 25 -- Gary Sheffield fourteen Adam -- fourteen but more and Michael Young right now it'd -- eight but these guys signed their deal. When they were positioned players there's been no precedent that where you have a god make this much money as indeed that's what are --

Victor Martinez is -- twelve and a half. Right he's worth more than that David.

He even Victor Martinez. You know -- signed that deal it's okay you're the DH but you're also gonna play a little bit it's not sure it'll play a little bit first rate it isn't a lot different that's quite unique.

And nothing has they were all -- the dozens and Victor Martinez of the world so you're going to get more money when two or three teams are bidding for you.

Right out and yet they're all multi year contract do. In our in I think at the end of the day that's what Ortiz talked about him being that I think at the end of the day that's what you wanted you wanted a two year deal. And become that even though it might be fixed or just over sixty million dollars become out of it without a multi year deal -- people on you perhaps know why you might not be good you think York.

All that they agree with the kickoff return this frontal occasionally to -- he loses -- up and Eric -- here to go to Cuba Iraq. It out yet but maybe we'll do that again now. If if they do settle under if they do settle on the steps would it before you a one year just one year deal somewhere near the midpoint at fourteen and half or somehow do it to blow a two year deal and -- for less money.

I gotta think so because if they're gonna agreed to a two year deal they probably would've done it by now. So I think that if if they do agree to something it would be opinion in -- point.

So you're a stake out now right just wait this to happen.

This is not that it's not that treacherous. -- resort well I'll let you guys vote difficult map.

Thanks for appreciate the time to talk India bank rob Bradford WPI dot com 6177790850. Quicktime brought back your -- middle of shrank for a settlement -- settle at the gonna drive saint -- motives of a hotel hold a conference -- alien or something like that. In a conference room and wait for David like. Maybe put a class to the wall here screaming. For Dave to come out I think that'll be the official kickoff spring training -- the door swings open David -- and you would go after this place at the so we know Bobby -- You know what if it if it does get arbitration it's not gonna happen quickly I mean if the computer charts and graphs and parables and all that sort of stuff this is going to be attracted drug test drug test all of that --