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Thu, 21 Sep 2006|

Sean's weekly segment, with Dale & Holley, on the crumbling Red Sox season and possible off season transactions.

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  1. Craig Hansen11:54
  2. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim8:36
  3. Julian Tavarez7:42
  4. Manny Delcarmen11:57
  5. Frank Thomas7:32
  6. Billy Wagner19:04
  7. curt Schilling's15:42
  8. Bartolo Colon10:03
  9. Johnny Damon5:55
  10. Manny Ramirez7:31, 8:54

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Stay at this time we talked to Sean mccallum of the Providence journal and espn.com. Sean academy is brought you by auto trader dot com and -- sees on gold star boulevard in Worcester -- I don't.

That's carrier do you have the tribute discussion earlier and the debate on its merits and IPOs. You know I certainly don't have boats in the movie I enter the scene in which then you know one of these storyline that the guy but I. He won't -- it's beyond today and much you can actually Baltimore colts strategic. And at one point 1 via. Deeper idea of the -- one of her friend has taught in a report. And says that you can't wait spot your time. Remembering that stupid stuff doesn't need -- I mean who really cares who let the Pittsburg -- in Poland in 1952 and Fordyce inning error immediately erupt. And edit them much more obscure trivia question or not but it but I don't but the great movie and double trivia there.

Well let's let's talk about the baseball team and and more specifically about one of the few truly bright lights on the baseball team all season long. We got a chance to save big poppy hit his 50 home run of the season last night tying Jimmie foxx for the team record seems pretty obvious to me and everybody else he will break Jimmie -- team record put some context for us because as Michael said. That record stood for a long time in this town.

Yeah I'm not sure you're dirty you're correct delve into an about the only thing worth watching a couple of weeks with a -- following out of playoff contention all being dirty then. The concern about John left Irving and you know looking at the makeshift lineup that you run out there in a meaningless series in New York and 71 of those little while this including the long -- that captivated our interest attention not complete and yet I almost -- it's been underplayed when when you think about. That the -- that played produce steam you know I mean all time great all -- papers from from Ted Williams to parlay -- keep two guys who weren't. You're quite a long like moral law on our guys probably should be involved in like Jim Wright and even you know water to hear wonders who -- these great home run -- from -- Garrett -- so it would take about all the guys. That -- worn the uniform in really the last 70 year almost dating back the ought to beat Oakland beat it's astounding that noticed it before. End and beat Ortiz do it and put that in some historical contact the it is. Is really amazing to me you know there are some teams like Chicago white smock who up until like -- from great leaders. I mean they're on they're all I'm single season home run record we were built not with 32. Routine that's been in business along with the -- and then you know if you look at he was rates blockers in in a pretty hitter friendly ballpark in the fact that no one has. Reached this special number in seven decades to be really hammered on exactly what are -- that he.

You talk about that show on this season he's had on the field he brings some things that table opposite field as well if you combine them. I don't know you cover baseball for a long time is he one of your favorite athletes to cover and talked to in the years that you've covered baseball.

Well no question according -- you know he views you know we do this reliving -- you know of that question -- the most part people when you talked you know what so and so really light. And you know there have been some guidance in my 18 year but -- always been very open the deal -- There have been guys who have been real enigma is people like not far below what we don't really like he within don't really reveal too much about themselves aren't currently private. It -- he is exactly what you see. You know happy go lucky were area are good teammate accommodating generous all of those and the you'd think you. Deep not really sure because you don't know him and by the way I can't claim that -- some great. Longstanding friendship but they Ortiz I have a lot of access to him I taught in quite often because of the nature of my job but I can't you know I'm not claiming to be disguised aren't by any stretch of the imagination. But I'm telling you that what you're seeing what you -- and then you know that big smile that always prying for every body the team -- the supporter eight the guy who. Been in contact and donate his time and helped ship and that's stable Ortiz and and you know that that's about the nicest thing I can say about him that every bit -- and as real person that he would appear from this.

I think I've heard the -- couple times and I think -- frank Coleman has said as well. Before David Ortiz came to the Red Sox the Red Sox got information that he wasn't such a great teammate Minnesota oh where did that reputation come from always that is that something he's developed a Boston may be didn't come all the way out he didn't grow into his personality it into his personality in into we came to Boston.

Well that there -- be some of that and I think that for those who are are are well suited for Boston it then that's how can make you or break it cannot point to Johnny Damon could another guy like. Who you know grew up -- eight with a speech impediment and had difficulty expressing himself in English our rights and really was brought out. -- type personality in Kansas City or even Oakland. And then came here and sort of grew into his personality because of the environment -- them -- baseball means so much where you are on the -- all the art. And I think that's probably much the same situation -- Ortiz a guy who did not grow up in this country whose whose first and primary languages not English. And you know who is playing in 80 an area of the country where let's say there's not a lot of Dominican culture in Minneapolis you know he probably felt little isolated have some bothersome injury -- his knees and you know what the -- all the time in. And was already on his organization have been traded by Seattle and wondering where like sitting here. And I think came here and after a couple of months -- playing time and started to realized -- talent and and got in developed in the great body. Baseball creepy city and in a city that does have some with -- roots and culture and personality then. And -- strong then people and I think just grew -- grew into the hallway and got more comparable.

The Red Sox evidently -- some more medical tests on Manny Ramirez -- Frank Thomas said after the game they -- they didn't think there was the possibility of a stress fracture but they wanted to rule it out. They didn't say that he is shut down for the year but doctor Julian Tavarez did I think Julian -- was if he has another at bat this year I'll give you a thousand dollars and Julian let's be honest it's kind of one for one in predicting -- moments so.

Well right he he was the one that got its return on the knows where he guaranteed that it would be in the lineup the next day hearing -- about exactly what happened. So I'm guessing that there's a bit of a pipeline near where any pocket to Julian and that he isn't playing again and and -- is relaying not a member of the media. So you know we're where what nine -- out ten days out from the end of the season the other plate for the last two -- it doesn't seem like there's any sense of urgency for him to get back -- bearing. And do anything here over the last three or four series so my guess is that that's probably accurate information.

The owner of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim I can never get that names straight mr. Moreno has said the money will be no object and he guarantees a big time acquisition by the angels. In the offseason some of the members of the media in LA take that to mean Alex Rodriguez others take it to be Manny Ramirez is that a possibility

but the New York Yankees do in the next five weeks here I think that either one of them could be on the table I wouldn't be surprised if if the Yankees spot sort of -- Syria -- Iraq wants struggle in the post season given all the -- So around -- which was only highlighted yesterday about Sports Illustrated story that the Yankees wouldn't be looked into AP you know adding it movement and I've been on record as saying for some time that I think that. You know I think about a month ago it took -- and particularly the doctors may get and the doctors make any noise here in October then there's the guy who was very much into -- war we have. With the Dodgers you just made a joke about the name. That's not -- that's not an accident apart in Moreno law doesn't want to beat the suburban Orange County seat he wants to be the primary aim of the number two market in the country in Los Angeles which is -- that unwieldy name now. And Kia equal to spend money to do it at you seeing Bartolo Colon in lot of Pereira on somebody investments that date -- in the last couple appear he does not take kindly to not doing well there's been some. You know comparisons to party Marino's sort of being a more benevolent West coast George Steinbrenner what would but it money were not there isn't on satisfied with anything but a pop and I would you know yet they very conservative general manager in bill -- there's that old joke in baseball that that it at that postponement middle name you know it's all -- the roster is set in stone men -- the guy that doesn't make a lot -- during the heat and then it is great to give up prospect then. And it's difficult to make any deals where -- but I think keep an elected a directive from -- don't hurt pretty soon. That second place is not acceptable finishing out policy that is not a oh especially when you know the five highway the darker maybe you're going to the you know awaiting the nationally -- here in a number we I think that they are going to go after a big in order to provide protection for Guerrero thereto glaring weaknesses are they can't feel the ball. And they don't have anybody to protect Guerrero a little about lineup. And I think vote obviously A-Rod in any could provide. Of the -- protection that they're looking for and it will be interesting to see if people -- now make that killed -- they would make a year ago which is urban antenna and water to look their best prospects for any. Because they're Bobby D eight sense of urgency now and they realize that maybe that that bill which could have been a year ago the question will be will direct talks public.

Sean do you agree with dale and that the more you see of some of these young prospects for the Red Sox -- in Pretoria. Craig Hansen was -- last night Manny Delcarmen the less confident you are for 2007 when it comes to these guys.

separate Michael you know the god that you know let's let's not confuse stuffed in Pretoria and its 60 bat in one month which Pentagon apartment who have been in the big league -- a year and a half in Egypt it's awful he to do you know Jimmy Williams is fond -- saying the two worked months to evaluate players are March and September heating. Spring training and the final month when rosters expand because you don't always get an accurate read -- players. Plate are better than a than they are in March against inferior competition and sometimes players coming up in September are pressing and -- comfortable and don't shoot out that they can be expected for the first couple week. That was the case with -- and Detroit I think that there's also the issue of this being Boston where there's so much a spotlight on all prospect. That sometimes we think that anybody who's prospect cute they Bite tool kit yes all star and that is an -- I think that the Detroit and be an everyday second baseman in major league baseball there are scouts who agree with me there are there are those who have some doubts it's not a slam dunk I think he'd been played the position how well he hits right away is what could be open to debate but I think he can enable it in time based and then that it is different that with the guy that you know without September last year has been here most of these Europe but was so in such a month ago that they send them back aaa when do you think that I think -- the back of their minds when the season started. The plan was -- Apple on clothes this year get a treat if he'd been and then move them back into the rotation because it's -- would be ready to vote next year he's not even close he's not ready to get outs in the seventh inning nevermind in the ninth.

Well I'll let let me interject interject why not. Why isn't ready.

Well I I mean what I say he's not ready I mean. Yet been proven he can do.

Yet amid did our our best out is if the front office down on this guy farthest out stuff I have is he. Is he doing things that they didn't think he would do on the does -- have flaws that they didn't see before me what's the story with

I think you know upbeat problem has been that he has ever since being recalled last September in the middle of the month and Apple were admitted -- they view he had never been able to throw the slider. With the effectiveness but he did the college level you know he's got that 95 mile an hour fastball can be tough to catch up to but he doesn't seem to have. You know that the the break pitcher of the second -- to keep people off the past all he can't throw for strikes at times it's been that kind of frisbee -- little flat. And the reason for that matter I I couldn't explain but it's clear that he has not developed as quickly as they both were remembered that god when they are in in June of 2000 and -- which is oh in 16 months ago people projected. Would be one of the first guys in -- to make the big break any laws he was pitching in Boston by mid September some two -- later. -- you know Israeli plot line did not develop political -- not tell -- why are noted -- not make -- necessary adjustments -- be -- to -- league -- out. If you -- it separately been sure how are not ready to be ready. Not ready well.

Do you think that curt Schilling's comments on this radio station which -- frank -- talked about -- yesterday about the teen spending more money next year signals that they're could be even more conflict in this offseason between the general manager in the president and CEO.

Well I think it's gotta be one of -- fascinating up of the upcoming -- these because Egypt -- chilling is saying is being communicated to him from upper levels of management. Then it would seem to be something -- retreat. From B it's -- eight to you know revote once in awhile and not -- but died in gulf war it was single -- then you know there's a long term plan in place -- going to use our farm system we're going to beat the Atlanta Braves. That would seem to be a contradiction. Bet it would need to be once again re casting that debate of Larry lucchino and the business side. Saying we have to go forward every year we all ballpark we -- the heating network we have the highest ticket pot then baseball these people don't want to hear -- versus the baseball operations you know slow and steady develop. Built from -- then oh develop although Spain beat it seemed like he you know assuming that that chilling the bidding information from from up above the year. That we are in danger of being right back where we were last October.

You to do -- all with within I mean. I suppose that there is eight you know that there can be some accommodation in moderation. But are ready to -- end and the other thing that that sort of problem in treat me about that -- yeah we're going to spend money we're going to horrible luck three well. What assumed that may -- to admit that many deal. Are the only two real premium free agents in in the winter are Barry's ego and Carlos. He exactly where all the money going to be spent -- going to be spending aren't journeyman Eisen and overpaying for them just -- you couldn't cult bands look at our world of luxury tax court couldn't 40 million. Dot but the seemed to make a whole lot. And you know I I I think that in years beat it we will look back a year ago and you've got B. J. Ryan and Billy -- there are as free agent closers in a year in which all of a sudden because the Apple ones. Medical issues you need a closer. Okay it's going to cost you you know 4050 million to -- that pop out clothes are now under going to be in the running for starter -- should eat more pitching intimate epic a lot and to Carlos Lee into trading and he'd still another are right there there's your money back. But the the moderate there's two maybe three brilliant free agent out there where the -- go.

And on top of that you know what I think John I think Curt Schilling 90s he -- plug in that we are you was brought out there on this one of the you have to have a little talk radio thing because. Let's let's let's say if last year let's say they don't have a a closer. And B. J. Ryan is available and Billy Wagner is available you really think Theo Epstein is going to give B. J. Ryan the contract that the blue -- now. So even if even if they do I'll want to go out here and get some players -- connect going to spend money like that for a closer and that's what it would.

I'm not sure about Michael go back to 2003. And look at the deal they gave to keep spoke and.

Not bad -- it it is still spark from an eight look at look at keep folks deal and then look at. B. J. Ryan deal -- keep folks deals with a pretty good compared to --

You gotta -- if you adjust for you know PP inflation and the money that goes -- Then it -- really completely.

B. J. Ryan -- what was it 47 or 50

well -- Jack Ryan was I think. Try to remembered.

We think it was five years 15 minute and focus in seven million a year what 21 the total deal --

Q you know it -- the option stage now and you know eat it could cost them more money when -- screw it going to be close to four years and then 2830 million. I mean we're we're we're out of. You know what were kind of. Splitting hairs here because over the last three or four years salaries go up in the market dictates what I'd bet -- I mean that they were willing to make keep while he spoke. Pretty -- paid closer when they went after him because they had to because old one was ready to match them right down the line that they wanted to keep. And and the market dictate what these guys get and lockyer yet he -- after Wagner yet they market in New York. And yet he with Toronto but all of a sudden at the bell at the spending go after some free agent --

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