Tue, 30 Nov 2010|
Dale and Michael talk about the upcoming Monday Night game between the Patriots and Jets and when analyzing the New York Jets schedule, Dale wonders if the Jets are actually overrated
On the final day of the Dale and Holley Show, Doc Emrick, Tom Coughlin, Dave O'Brien, Joe Castiglione and Lyndon Byers give their thoughts on the career of Dale Arnold in this musical montage.
Dale Arnold shares his final thoughts in the WEEI middays as he signs off from The Dale and Holley Show for the final time.
One of our favorite guests in The Dale and Holley Show history, Rosey Colvin checks in from Indianapolis to share his feelings about talking to Dale and Michael over the years. Rosey also, of course, shamelessly plugs all of his business ventures as he loves to do every time he's on with the guys.
The Boston Bruins legend called the show from Hawaii to share some thoughts about Dale's career, how much he respected him and how he went about his work. Ray reflected on some past moments with Dale and also talked about how the current Bruins are looking.
Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)
Giving the folks at ESPN. Are little more excited about next Monday night's match up than they were about last night's match up. And and even on a night where there was virtually nothing to watch from a football perspective. How much of cardinals niners did you actually stick with there's I gotta admit I was sporadic in a mountain. Didn't really care about the resurrection of Brian Westbrook a whole lot. You know we always talk about the NFL and how great and it's can't miss is the most well run league of all the professional leagues and you if you throw in a game out there NFL fans will watch it. I think last night was the exception I just was horrible I wasn't like I feel like I've seen the 49ers too much -- she. MA NL Mike Singletary out by TV now made sense that you know people thought they were gonna be good this year made since they were on Monday and Monday night game earlier with the saints. The great game actually it was a three point games thanks niners. Like there was another national game that wasn't. I just I just that's one team. I have no there's nobody on the team -- it's not even not let my Boy George -- report choice not to worry that -- want to write about common college enjoyed. Okay it was it was a great experience. Knowledge that Michael -- we appreciate you. No Mike Singletary is not my cup during the game for our purposes so -- just didn't and in hearing what he had to say until. Until after the fact. And then on the cardinals it was you Larry FitzGerald but in and have a quarterback so quarterback up on Larry FitzGerald weapon is that. I feel bad for Larry FitzGerald. I mean he he might be them the best player at his position might be is Calvin Johnson's early Gardner's mother guys. But he might be the best player his position in the NFL and you can't tell. It's hard to tell when you again Derek Anderson -- and a two -- -- where Derek Anderson over on the sidelines giggle and with. A teammate netted seventeen points down -- eighteen points down or whatever one's. It's just it's bad I'm -- Ayers I -- I was in and out I didn't see a whole lot of it. Is it just bored me when I was in watching it a little bit. But next Monday is the exact polar opposite a 180 degrees difference on the scale that's right it is totally different next month. Is different next Monday and and as epic about this game dale I wonder. If we've all got it wrong here in New England now New Yorker short and excited about the jets are excited about Rex Ryan and how they do business. There has been no hard knocks hang over there has been no. There has been no hard hard knocks tax so to speak on the jets -- we looked at it. In New England. And maybe other parts of the country and we said doctor look at the a bunch allow mounts. This is not the way to do business in the head coach talks trash. This that the general manager. Talks trash. They pat themselves on the back. They go out and get loud brash players. Santonio Holmes they picked up LaDainian Tomlinson they picked up Antonio Cromartie. In his whole clan. They paid off his they helped him pay off his child support obligations. They're just that this is not the patriot way in other words yeah and this is not gonna work well. Maybe we were wrong about the jets and maybe there are you know two or three or four ways of doing business in the National Football League. That can't think of anybody else sectors on another head coach. Who's like Rex Ryan and there's not another team. That likes the bullseye as much as the jets like. So maybe they got they've got it right it works for them Rex Ryan is a perfect coach for the jets -- perfect coach for New York. And and and you wonder. They put all of their their madness and know roses together and have become the standard in the in the AFC. How badly I think book. I also think and then. I know he was in an AFC championship in -- to don't think Rex -- on anything. I mean when he when he won a Super Bowl that I think we can more accurately say does that -- work. He's got nine wins right now is good score halting. Working as working for them I mean like last year his first you're the head coach -- -- AFC champ -- absolutely second years -- -- -- not into -- with the patriots. That technically tie with the patriots were actually technically not tie with the patriots their head of the patriots and they lead the division right now because of head to head match up over over the patriots up. That's a pretty get two year run. As the head coach and NFL. Though I. This prop look he leads the league and press conference I'll give you that until you win a ring and they've got some jewelry. Kind of a wannabe I think and and of a wannabe who's you know look looks like he's got pretty good team go on here. You talked me Rex after one some stop talking like you won something show only one. And and Timmy -- and look he's wildly entertaining he made it hard knocks must see TV all summer long top players love in my -- -- they have -- -- them all let's stop. I'm not convinced it's working yet it's were -- is he better than what was their previous yeah Eric Mangini yet he's better than Mac. When some. I have to have topic I mean last year I -- -- that's kind of a tough argument to make. First year in the league Eagles AFC championship game and win the Super Bowl their four. Yep and got any semi of the reason we got the job is because it wasn't working. Got the job because something was wrong so we came in to a situation that wasn't great wasn't. Wasn't terrible not like they were the worst team in the league but they weren't great. He he he. He maximized what he had last year and it looks like he's maximizing. What he has this year to I I will say about how far does that go I don't know what that what what their ceiling as it is they're stealing the Super Bowl of their ceiling. The AFC championship game again. I don't know what it is I just like he is that. He's a perfect coach for that to -- perfect. I think that I think that there's a reason why he's the only coach in the NFL like him because I don't think it will war. I think that there is you don't have to be Bill Belichick OK you can be different than ballot check in succeed. I don't think Tony Dungy was like bill ballot tech and he won a Super Bowl. You know you can point to other coaches. Jon Gruden might be the only coach like. Rex Ryan whoever won disapproval not only think he was like they're gonna like -- -- -- -- psychosis like come up with -- -- Super Bowl winning coach like -- I mean there isn't one. But gruden is closest I can come up with. And he wasn't the gregarious Jon Gruden you here on Monday night not at all not -- was. Coach at all he made he made he had funny expressions. You know he was. He was quotable after the game body. But it's not like. Jon Gruden went out of his way to. You know dress up like Iraq brother Wright went out of his way to compare southern -- -- is no I that's as close as like at my head coach -- there there have been some oddball coordinator resolutely of course some odd ball. All right is one. Yeah he was is it is that was one yet. Failed miserably as head coach but I know some miserable in my eyes on -- It was it was miserable on Arizona he was pretty good coach in Philadelphia it was okay. You know again look at I I we probably great on a tougher curve here. Because you know we've got a coach here who's won three super balls. Until you once company wasn't anything and -- as harsh as that sounds that means Jeff Fisher is a wannabe that means Andy Reid is a wannabe. Something don't get their toilet. I don't I don't think that Andy Reid is a wanna -- Andy -- a very good coach. Yeah absolutely -- it's the best coaches in history -- and have a Super Bowl is I don't have a right but these are but wannabe who. You wanna may. Not and I use the term look until you win a ring. You won not one of the great coaches in history what you got here iyas. Rex Ryan had -- coached long enough to be out of he'd won the Super Bowl last year I still wouldn't think he's one of the best coaches in history because he's only been on the. -- I mean there's some exceptions and there are some Hall of Fame coaches who have not won Super Bowls. I gotta go to one I think got to go to war. You don't necessarily have to win it to be considered one of the best coaches of all time and out of battle with bud grant won a Super Bowl did not. -- Marv Levy Marv Levy's any of those two those two hall of -- yup right there. But mark was in for how many was was -- was in guerrillas and a ton raiders get help like has opted out -- Indy Reid's been in what he's been on one spent two 45. NFC championship games. I think he's I think he's a very good coach it is. Hasn't won a Super Bowl. I don't know where where Rex Ryan is Rankin and and five years you know maybe maybe he's just a flash in the pan. Maybe he's one of those guys right now he fits you fits what's happening now in in the in the media and entertainment world to. I mean he'll he will give you the sound -- He's allowed. He's bold. -- he'll say any thing it's he has he has made four. He is made for the crawl on ESPN he is made for ESPN news he's made for talk radio. All of us at Twitter whatever. Rex Ryan -- -- guy. I don't know that's going to be the case of 56 -- but I gotta say -- I'm impressed with what he's done so -- his first two years. It's funny because they are not as advertised. I mean I I think Quinn when he got the job we kinda half thought that. You know it was going to be -- dominating defense and and Mark Sanchez don't make a whole lot of mistakes and you know being -- manager in the defense will keep missing games. I spent all morning long on the computer looking up defensive stats and I bet even Rex would say. Amber at all that he thought they'd be up twelfth in the NFL and in passing yards allowed per game I can promise he thought he's gonna be better than that. On third down percentage they're tenth in the late now the patriots are dead last and worst and that's saying. Up fourth down percentage sixteen penalty. -- tackles 27 on the league's sacks twelfth in the league interceptions 28 in the late. About points. Points per game fortunately. Patriots 22. About runs -- -- -- rushing yard rushing yards top fourth family. Are patriots sixteenth. I'm I'm guessing though that this this team is not what Rex had in his head when he was sit there in the offseason before the hard knocks cameras came through the door. My guess is he was looking at we're going to be dominating defensive team he talked about all summer long and hard knocks were going to be defense I think there are. I don't think there what what he thought they don't put pressure on the quarterback that he thought they were going to. They don't get to the quarterback in the -- at the same right that he thought they were going to Alitalia I think their offense has been better than he thought. Even with the additions that he -- later that. How are deathly agree with that but it I'm I'm hearing from you were the last couple days. Really. Really have a lot -- know for rivers is is respect the wrong word that are -- this respect. Lack of respect you don't really seemed elected Jiten I don't think there are good team. I think they're really dictate I don't think there's good as the patriot. I think they're good team. You know right if -- look at it -- prayer brings this up on the NFL network. You may well have 810 win team not make the playoffs this year probably gonna be Kansas City but. But you're gonna have a ten win team not make it because of the way things are. I'd be shocked if both of these teams are in the playoffs it's possible one won't be. Possible not very likely right. I look I think they're real good team I don't think there's good as the patriots and and and the two biggest reasons why don't think there is good as the patriots. Our. Bill Belichick and Tom Brady those of the two biggest trees well. Look at most coaches and -- leader -- are going to. Lose the check mark battle. When matched up with -- Bill Belichick. But there isn't a huge its -- like. Rex Ryan is not a liability. For the -- all I didn't say red triangle at any doesn't. I I wouldn't say he's made a lot of mistakes as head coach -- I haven't seen a lot better games as you have the last couple years him alive yeah. I can't really look at at day a time management situation that he's blown war. Lack of preparation. You know that that this team is just not prepared they're not motivated to play I can't look at any anything glaring. That he's down with that team that is that is cost them games or or makes you think or another coach can get more out of this team at Treblinka. I think he is giving as much out of the jets as any other coach I could get out. I think they're a little overrated. I mean I truly believe that and that kinda goes with the territory for any New York team or player. You know 'cause its New York's New York brand and you. As we pointed out yesterday they've got nine wins this year they get two wins against teams with records about 502. Out of the night. The patriots have five wins of their nine against teams with records about 500 I think the patriots. Schedule has been much more difficult than the jets. And the patriots have the exact same. Yet they this this schedule is much tougher and they've had they've had more impressive wins we talked about yesterday five. I've wins against teams that are over 500. Talk about the colts. The colts the dolphins the Steelers. The ravens the chargers. They beat the Steelers on the road to beat the chargers don't rodents three division leader -- an the fourth who will be a division leader San Diego they've done a good job but there's one thing about the there's one thing about the jets than they've been able to do something. That demos than most teams are able to do once they've done it twice the last two years. And that is call up the patriots have been -- up the coaching staff say you know I'm not here to kiss bill Belichick's rings. -- call out Tom Brady I don't think I don't think. -- they'll be able to figure out what we're doing a guess and they've been talking a lot of trash the last two years. -- beat him up last year in new York and this year you gotta say they beat him up in New York true. Patriots had a 1410 lead at the half sought evaporate lost 2814. In the two meetings last year against Rex is jets they lost sixteen to nine. And then they kind of slapped though the little brother around when they won 3114. So your right they've been called out. While three times does every time Rex plays patriots is gonna call amount bright they've lost two of those theories and in the third one may knock him around. I think the gonna knock around a little -- on Monday. You gotta double digit Vick yet they just absolutely I is going to be a great game got the patriots when in his game at home. I'm not pick enemy get I'm not picked him against them at home for the rest a year now just that's just the way it is okay so they've -- might lose at home but. It just doesn't make sense to pick against a guy. Who was 125. Straight home games.
In the latest edition of the "It Is What It Is" podcast, Chris Price and CSNNE's Mike Giardi take a look at the Patriots offseason on both sides of the ball, try and get a handle on which new guys will make an impact first, and whether or not the Patriots have altered their style when it comes to drafting and developing wide receivers.
Mike Florio joined the program to discuss the Jets decision to release Tim Tebow, he said the situation is as disaster all around for the Jets and that the problems begins with owner Woody Johnson. Mike also said that he was disappointed with the Pats moving back in the first round.
One of the hardest working men in the biz, Mike Petraglia aka "Trags", sits down with Butch Stearns live in Foxborough to help break down all the latest Pats moves. He discusses his reaction to the trade in Round 1 and the guys those picks produced. Also, the boys talk about the decent trade the Pats made in acquiring LeGarrette Blount from Tampa Bay for Jeff Demps and a 7th rounder.
We check in with Danny Ainge for our first talk to him since the Celtics season ended last weekend. We talk about the future of the team, KG, Pierce, Doc Rivers and more, as Danny directly answers the rumors being floated by ESPN's Stephen A. Smith.
Jackie Mac joins the show to discuss the trade rumors swirling around Paul Pierce, KG, Doc Rivers and the Celtics. She also discusses the future of the Celtics head coach.
Stephen A. joined the program to discuss the trade rumors he has reported regarding a possible trade including Doc Rivers and the Clippers. Stephen A. also told the guys that he has heard that Danny and Doc may be tiring of working together.
Dave O'Brien talked to John Farrell before the end of the Twins series. The Sox skipper said that Big Papi's success is no surprise given his work ethic.
John Farrell postgame press conference
Joe Castiglione and Dave O'Brien talked to David Ortiz after the Red Sox beat the Twins 12-5. Big Papi said that team chemistry is great, that the new guys see the Sox way of doing things.
Dale and DJ roll on with their puck talk and chat some more about the goalie matchup in this series, as well as the lack of a quality power play for both of these teams. In fact, DJ says the Rangers are even worse on the PP than the B’s! The guys also get into the resurgence of Milan Lucic and his deceptive speed and grit. Dale and DJ talk about the similar styles of play for these teams and look forward to Game 2.
Dale and DJ get into the two coaches and their polar opposite styles and demeanor. Both teams play a similar style, but the coaches certainly convey their messages in a different way. Dale isn't buying the Tortorella hype and thinks he's a little overrated. DJ thinks he's a good coach, but isn't a fan of anti-media stance. The guys also talk about Jagr and how he has not lived up to the hype. They weren't expecting him to light it up or be the savior, but DJ says he wasn't prepared for just how slow the aging veteran is. Another big topic for B's fans this season is the play of Tyler Seguin and why he has yet to become the superstar everyone anticipates he will be. This leads to Claude Julien's style and if he does actually have something against the younger players. That Iginla trade shows its ugly head again as well.
WEEI.com's DJ Bean joins Dale in studio for Sports Sunday to discuss the Bruins playoff run. Game 2 is later today and the guys discuss the results of the first game of the series. They get into the construction of the lines for the B's and if they would make any changes. DJ has a few ideas for the lines today. The boys also discuss the two goalies - Tuukka vs Henrik Lundqvist and wonder why people automatically think the Rangers have the edge at goalie. Finally, they get into the legacy and the decisions of Claude Julien and Peter Chiarelli.
Shawn joined the program to discuss another overtime win for the Bruins. When asked about Game 7 against Toronto, Thornton said that he would like to keep his specific comments in the dressing room private, but acknowledged that he encouraged Tyler Seguin to up his play and it paid off in overtime.
Barry joined the guys to help breakdown the Bruins overtime win last night in game one. Barry said that he has rarely seen a team dominate as much as the Bruins yet be forced to an overtime.
Boomer joined the program to discuss the tough loss for his beloved Rangers. Boomer told the guys that Lundqvist will be better in game two and predicted a seven game series.
Bruins rookie defenseman Matt Bartkowski has emerged as one of the young stars of the team and he joins Mut and Tom Caron to discuss his role on the team, why he's confident, and the trade that almost sent him to Calgary.
Millar joins the show to discuss the recent Sox slide, Jacoby Ellsbury's lack of power, and hitting in the big leagues.
Andy Brickley joins the show to discuss the Bruins Game 1 win over the Rangers, the play of the three young Bruins defensemen, and the fatigue Jagr has shown on the ice.
We talk all things game one with Jack Edwards of NESN, and get to hear a little from Jack's Finnish protege as well.
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The Bruins have almost finished raking the Leafs, the Red Sox struggle from the mound, Miami Heat fans show their level of class.
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