Kerry Byrne, Cold Hard Football Facts

Welcome back Dennis and Callahan it all the eyeball test tells you a lot of what you need to know about watching a particular sporting -- you get the sense that as an example. Patriot sorry diminished threat in the second half again would -- team. But the numbers don't. Really. Choir. You to pass the eyeball test until you turn to cold hard football facts and her friend -- Bernard joins us on the AT&T hotline AT&T find out -- possible. Nation's fastest mobile broadband network AT&T rethink possible. Marty Terry how are you too well gentlemen it's bad paper rock and roll bands go now. Yeah yes pay he didn't even like them. He -- I -- -- tolerated the band. Each other via email and I guess. I said yesterday -- I was reading from your piece about the just fine Belichick defense the cure for what -- OSHA. Something can either hold with -- minutes here let me reading the entire thing was a sense of what your point is -- Gary. Well you know that was the point is Bill Belichick was widely considered one of the great -- -- -- -- a bit of time he certainly was. Well when you look at the result you know on field result or the way we look at them that the -- -- football -- and who are all. They they just don't hold up they don't they don't support that reputation and market not. You know not trying to back to coach that's not how we do it not -- -- at. Look at that number at the doubt the numbers do not. -- defensive changes -- -- way we looked -- it does does anyone -- going up against a Belichick and I. Would it and they don't in the great example guys that why we wrote yesterday. But in -- had a real gay guy you know I bought at a very productive quarterback. At that you know the best interest Korea by any measure movement founded in Egypt the only -- guys that this second best industry heading into Sunday with. And you know -- is that what the over under at the -- we spoke out against the it is the one last one Sunday. One against the raiders may -- the -- -- -- happened yet rated. And then number three was you know in Egypt Egypt in Egypt that that's a lot of evidence I think it's not just such as it. It -- performance after another the big one last. Is at what might have been the single greatest act in -- -- Yeah against the -- the average -- -- -- -- -- Against the patriot but -- what. Football national television not all dark Egypt -- upstart thing is only five -- -- -- in history that the average more than it's not stamped a name. And and one with who read last year you just unstoppable. -- in all it is not add up on an isolated incident did it nonstop now I'd. It'll Carey Drew Brees and Payton Manning a side but surely great quarterbacks in the old right. What is the last time -- out of -- -- after this from a sure you do -- -- is required but just sort of up and about their question what is the last time we were able to sit and accurately say you know what. This confused and confounding defense that Bill Belichick puts out there. Is going to just -- an average quarterback they're not gonna know what they're gonna see what they think they're gonna seat is not what they really are when we get once you know pre stepped turns in to post that is a long time so we've been able to say that. Yeah I mean that the that the it's a game that really leap out guys have what they -- -- see me think back to note regal or any. It could record that one of the greatest Everett -- -- greatest beverage but a and yet to terrible performances in the shortly playoff support it game and in the -- or play out when they had what what 500. 25 point whatever what and that opposite field goal is to it in -- -- -- -- road shut down performances. What what would it just -- firing statistically it was -- -- you wanna say it. It happened that as we've got like. Agent the only security you have to with a best in Korea which. It is one of the -- When a vehicle that -- that you haven't even people were able yeah it it's the only means it is god like that who were. Looking -- it now putting up putting up good numbers and you know again it's not action it's just been knocked it out the numbers aren't. You know yet but we started -- -- football practical or people are calling from -- your politics for the patriots thought they were one of them. In the midst of one of the greatest story. And history and we look at what with the court are all back. Now we're doing the same thing and and -- -- -- people. You know pages implement that -- bashing organization went ought to that the numbers are beautiful. -- you -- and and lead in your favorite defense of that defensive passer rating or the passer rating in the opposing quarterback the patriots are 28. In the league. Worst in buffalo. So far this season not a good sign but and maybe this requires a little of opinion from you -- is it personnel. Or is it coaching a -- is an and it I realized politics responsible for bold but. They have the right people and he waited to quantify that would just put him in the right place. I think the -- -- if we go back afterwards that the -- people need to understand how important that is but. Why we've got to this point I mean that we -- that background I mean. The patriots have not found a great defensive back pocket and -- -- have dropped to the back and not -- really you know an -- rate NFL player the -- is that in the coordinated rate player of the back into he'd be here. But let me turn out to be great as we don't know -- out of them but we're talking to send them back to wrap for the last seven years. That admission of the that they haven't I don't know shut down guys and a lot of what. Voted one position I think that at the mine and as well for a -- all look at after the supply. I mean who stood out I mean. It's just not. I'm -- but it's not really -- standout tees. Good. -- the Arctic you know it's just a lot of it but with few results so and then -- you know. It was of the system that -- -- -- -- I mean it's a lot -- was all they have one have both said Alan white vote and gone. I don't know it's not it's not affected considerate and at and it -- -- it -- take issue that McCain had caught up with -- meet people figured out. -- system that we're you know I'm not an -- knows guys I get the -- so it's look at the numbers and find out what matters. It probably other people walk all -- to discuss yet knows all I don't need help from the field. I'm not what the city and and his real reason you write their bad crap -- of the systems and and then not -- other people may be caught on to that for the Belichick. We're talking with -- burn from cold hard football facts and how much this is something that you could qualify -- your numbers but talking about a system passing you by and probably Belichick. Is at this level yet. But if you consider all the great coaches who won super -- orbit to multiple Super Bowl at some point eventually their system their ability to get it done. The way they do business doesn't work any longer to point that. Doubtless let's Tom Landry go Marv Levy leaves buffalo chuck -- was done in Pittsburgh on shall at Miami Joe Gibbs in Washington on and on it goes. Guys don't do it and state. He's true to themselves re real long period of time in this business -- Yeah it would not at that point any about it -- -- it or not. -- Ottawa at defense but you know let me put up he are just incredible genius in ways that football genius. In ways that people don't even realize. No walks everybody knows -- the west post op Ed Wood which you'll want inherent putting in a system that you know he's gone you know what -- -- -- What they -- lost. Perhaps the greatest change -- approach if people don't appreciate it. He played the most consistently -- he sent in and a belt it and nobody knows. In 1988 there wanted to work on the football to once it was on its -- back into that and the outer. They had the worst defensive -- the -- football Apple's -- -- Opposing quarterback at a 95. On average at the rating in 1980 with what. He realizes from went out in rapid Ronnie Lott. Perhaps the greatest thing he would quarterback you know he'd be in and it felt if there at least in modern times. I put into -- two other rookie. And the bat Eric Wright ultimately been. Not a bet it would -- defensive back three rookies and that it and -- and got improved by 35 point. Laughed and -- wanna be an element to -- -- they want -- the -- -- five all but seventeen rate is supported out of step it up with a week. People don't realize that it would -- that we won the -- -- -- football for decades. People -- what he opted not to eat and not only that the defense of the rating -- really. The most important stat on defense the look at what would never at a heated at last -- to seventeen straight years. About the average -- at a deep -- At. Maybe I didn't go across it. Maybe he's learned from lawsuits that a bunch of young babies -- rookies. Yeah what what what they reported that the and -- that for you and 81 but awful mean -- -- -- became a from a terrible. He sent to shut down that they a one year and continue to be so you know on and on an audit what -- what -- -- people. Talk about Japan the football talk what statistically. It's -- -- and apparently they don't know what it. And let me give an example. Last year people look at the and that it's it's in the sense that they they pick it up between most yards on on. Eric. We've looked at the front of the -- that it would not but in the NFL. People thought it will all horrible because it is significantly -- applauding our on. Which they don't know that one of the best out of the football what happened. They made big plays and you that is stopping minimum needed to and they want the simple all you get really need immediate don't want it on football instinct is it's really good defensive after reading. Are you bet that the patriots have been an example so you'll want it is simply that we it would hurt him in yards allowed by the what they're in the they were every bit. You'll patriot that the the second best app of the past decade with that the except that it that -- the -- of the people really look at it makes it brought history and the great teams at. A great indicator in in the. Hey Kerry by a large correct me if I'm wrong when a team installs a successful defense of system and they are able to turn those rosters over with people. Steelers come to come to mind I mean you know they lose to free agency every single year the plug organizing and that's steeler defense remains a constant I think the same thing could be said. The ravens doesn't that -- that would that this this is about. -- -- still that raised the Jimmy's and Joe's not the x.s and o.s because I don't think bill ballot check up stupid in the last two or three or four yard yeah. Why that's why the current issue I think it we've got a bad wrap it really. Affect you almost immediately it would -- Ronnie Lott situation I mean that affect the 49ers almost immediately. Inspect it did affect. Back immediately but for the better read Andy's -- perhaps add up exactly. But -- they're actually the belt check in certain -- at -- in just a one game with. Without really being -- -- -- -- shut down player but they're written a good record so. No a lot of octopus system still work he's still a good -- but it just isn't -- the talent the you know speaking but still it it's a great example. What happened 2000 old Betsy you might remember they went fifteen and wanted Ben Roethlisberger and what quarterback but apparently to -- union and what type but -- -- repeat what that. That would also arrested at what all of and the stock now but similar. -- -- -- It's still -- finished second defensive the rating with fifteen and -- the Patriot -- we you know beat their property. -- opt all of all of which isn't an all spot in no way which uses the it -- It's a guy who makes an immediate impact quantifiable by. Michael our football back and it quantifiable and and in the numbers we look yet so. I derided it is so it does a lot about these you know -- it even goes. We brought Italians it but also complex it and or altogether with the coaching the -- it did everything right now that the -- happened acting civil. And Kerry lost in the analysis of the impact of a zero sum gain in 2006 draft. Thank you touched on this briefly if you don't get what you need in 2006. That draft ends up being a bust out draft. The you have to try to get in seven and eight and nine and you're not making any progress the same could be said in an opposite way we -- draft Tom Brady in the sixth round. The 199. Yeah 199 and you get to quarterback of the future you have to spend the next 23 or four years looking for that guy. Yeah that's quite -- bit like the bat crap in it specifically in the secondary advantage. So detrimental I mean they've been looking. Those guys they just after Antoine after the draft to eat -- -- what -- -- -- in it with him on and yeah I mean to be nice if they thought you know. It it you know that spot in the lead in the in the -- about what perhaps they got. You know -- by the market -- -- You know but -- and at the attitude you know draft pick them from the but there in 2000 -- -- it looking for a very you know shut down you know lives depends you know African president are great linebacker and and then the other curious decision you know nine and kept you know moving down the drop -- now -- -- We're not claim that he tried to break -- independent but -- year -- we in the NFL and back it. -- Why why that it I mean I think that committed to sell you. That there will be satisfied he's intensely you know critically -- I think not trap and not. In like now as well I mean there's something going on behind me that a team that drafted so well early in the decade it did not -- it out -- I don't know what it but I don't. Happening because I wanna buy that even. Thank you amid the case in the past -- the Brady Peyton Manning arguments then a big one for you guys and and and you come to the conclusion correct me if I'm wrong that. The Brady was the better quarterback. Right. As he slipped at all slipped a notch in your eyes and your mind according to your your numbers. Well you know I -- -- it it's a great I would have to -- some reason that's what -- last year. You know -- -- -- compatible. But to say I read it still think. The all time record of Japanese as let me. You know maybe a little bit but from an incredibly -- urgent need the thing is that -- stopped. The thing to -- -- -- early in his career with so unprecedented you know -- we speak. -- regular is in the post season not just things that they had -- nobody ever was before I. I don't worry about offense that really don't I mean it's still it's still a typical -- opposite you know -- how to -- in the league against against the pretty good. -- the club on the road and these things happen you know anecdote -- in Islam really not. I don't think he often does this systemic problem with -- really do think it's on the defense you know. For the first out there all the problems. What happens second I don't know in the game but it was -- of that but -- -- which touched on a first -- -- that at some equity touchdown passes -- left him in the -- and incredible. Yet and -- even -- -- -- -- that it would just. -- if they would have collapsed you know what yeah it felt really incredible and so. That brought to look at them and one half that that pretty impressive that the that the app. Like you know we know what happened. Well yeah but I've got not really worried about -- is not the problem with. Which -- teams are which is -- it's it's not bad defensive play in critical moment again as against what about the and that it really has that let them down oil well. A Kerry burned when you when -- cold hard football facts guys given that windowless think tank to discuss where you're going today in -- tomorrow you -- come up with this but just is suggestion. -- Vincent Jackson vs Randy Moss some sort of valuation of those two guys an amateur how'd you could evaluate and certainly too early in the season. The absence of Logan Mankins on this offense and and what this is going to mean going forward any ideas on that. Yeah you know I mean I think the -- part situation has been recognized we kind of got -- the typical by the it was said. Maybe a patent agents rate -- -- people don't -- you know you know he. It's a great player he's he's among the best -- what. But I insists -- mind that guy had changed -- change it once but it's it's into the 2006 if I don't. The patriots gave up 312. Point oh look there would be 834 -- -- they clearly at all end up with some reason is that after the acting in its its management telecheck whoever. They decided to change to inform Hillary in the and they said you know we that we can that we could become a better off and weapons around. I'm pretty help as well but that's too. God yeah act and the all right you know people all the football world and all the agency more weapon and they really change your mind that -- and acting guys and I. Personally think they have to. You know go back to what -- then I don't know why people. Wanted to demise that that provided so much except you know good solid defenses. You know I I want to start Iraq inspect the -- -- that -- -- -- about deeper. You know I -- I don't know Muppet that was the great I think it's a lot of open open. And but it's illogical Kerry I mean I think you could say the defense was better then and that the name and that's why they won and you can't say. They're better off with. David Givens -- that are in the months. They want reasonable all of the data if they want us there they are what do -- and it is something changed today just observing about it and -- -- Jerry. Open change in the mindset that organization I mean when we heard about where it it is in it will really both scored all the points and as such now wrecked it and they got away from. Want to let that provided so what's the. So that's biologic Freddie Coleman's should be planned address instead of Wes Welker. I know it you know -- You know it's given a lot of these guys at -- -- at. Hundred -- and -- all the epic. I want -- Beijing and then and we kept releasing Mac -- out of out of the -- in Europe it is now is that is that an incredible. It might be the best ever when he does. Let -- there's something psychological got. And all that and keep it from the cold hard football fact I know when they would think no way to what is all that went into -- record -- If they're not doing anymore I think it would pay an average off what they were able to put up monies would. That the president of football. Odd would it be better off I'd -- I don't know what Jerry but I just thought the question we need to ask -- that we looked at the you know early in the that. You can check out his work on cold hard football facts dot com -- berth thanks for the information to -- -- all right gentlemen Jerry Berman at Dennis and Callahan joining us on the AT&T hotline find out what's possible. The nation's fastest mobile broadband network AT&T rethink possible.