Charlie Baker and Lenny Clarke

Welcome back Dennis and Callahan on a Thursday run for your -- Berlusconi we have our own storm in the studio right now tiger -- Heidi we are joined by to Clark and now Republican running for governor. Mister mister baker the man to myself yeah. I think that's an possibility guy a good looking guy what.

Rally or get on an a radio station and say I know it's a free country and I wish it weren't so free. Politics for -- your handlers -- want your people.

Let everybody act that apparently everybody's -- yeah yeah two week we different about a split some people think were taken cheap shots and John's been known to do that. Time but let's not take them -- a -- let's context let's hear what our governor had to say about the Glenn Beck rallied in.

It's a free country and I and we should learn that it was if -- countries while I. -- Aren't I wish -- this is the -- not to say about the man personally I just don't care for his policies. I mean this is ridiculous we wanted to greatest states in the union and we're going down to -- it can't be happening.

We also have we also great people there -- thirteen months on the road trust me we have great people in Massachusetts they deserve a lot more of the state government and again I mean think. The thing about this we have we get we get and Cano customary whole bunch of people -- be you know not even demand the taxes on the campaign accounts at. So -- rules folks went to them a different for everybody else.

Maybe this Tuesday to personal question -- basket anyway how would you spend all the money that Deval Patrick see -- your property tax roll back. You know the baker family really hasn't quite figured out what to do with that. Didn't tell us it was -- yeah yeah he was gonna cut property attack yet on any race they attack and what does that happen Wednesday government IndyCar locally three times in a row now so you spent that money you know I have.

No one believed them I mean he said -- no one actually believe the Nolan and all accountable. I think a lot of voters did Jerry now they didn't yet they regularly on one Deval Patrick was gonna cut a tax any tax -- in his life disease said yes we Canada evidently it was no big cats. They had no let me -- big had a shot. Thought go back -- to -- terribly debacle mean this is the the tax to cut that's what he called it over again attacks to cut the -- the property -- right here a lot of people -- That's one of the things they remember from which -- we -- and it was a -- the first time -- it to mean but what radical left -- and like Duval ever wants to cut. Any tax. I was upset when that's when the governor of New Hampshire a nice -- there was an elaborate -- just -- I I am I walking past weekend it got shot to think you're.

Sorry when I left every program right -- parliament to run for governor Harvard pilgrim had a ton of business in New Hampshire -- called the governors and New Hampshire and in Maine. Just atonement I was leaving and -- the transition plan was all the rest. And the governor have she said to me on them on he said and by the way. -- if you see the folks up on beacon going to see Governor Patrick this is right around the time the sales tax increase -- testify and he -- thank -- for. Raising the sales tax is it's gonna be real good for. Telus does the 555 what is the size suicidal thoughts final sense so even -- Canon 5% of the income tax okay the voters voted ten years ago to get the income tax back to 5% the -- kind of overdue and delivered -- 5% of sales tax. Governor risen to six point 25 we should get a -- of five and I wanna get the the business taxes down to 5% masters is very complex very difficult business -- is probably the fifth or sixth highest business tax rate in the country. Huge problem with respect to growing and creating jobs 055 and five guys I think we should put our team you know -- business. -- Yeah but what we -- they didn't like community or or yelling genetic might display what they do not always community are gonna do knows you wanna create jobs you gotta create a climate that's predictable and affordable and we don't have either right now. Everybody talked especially small businesses they just don't know what's gonna happen next but they presume it's going to be bad and notably among them is this.

All accurate is is Deval Patrick Obama light. Well they've both certainly is a lot of the same campaign -- the messaging is very much the sentiment they finish speeches certainly both. Guys who believe a lot more government that I do I think a lot more government the most other people do wanna tell you this the spending issue whether it's Washington or or -- The spending issue is one of the biggest problems that we face is a state and we faces a nation. You know government at both levels is not living within its means is not. Behaving frankly the same way every family in every businesses these days and it's a huge problem force now in going forward.

Q. Known to evolve and we know Deval and Obama believe. That the stimulus helped you know which is more -- crap don't actually. The state government has grown since he's been governor correct three million dollars an increase spending three billion dollars three -- and pretty soon and that added people that was the whole point of the stimulus to grow government neighbors. We've lost jobs in the private sector and 150000. Fewer people working today -- McGovern took off and gained them in the public sector.

Overall in an oval brick building where an agreement. And and well okay so you can deals include this docking senses take is full of waiting and in your garage where you'll -- I got. I how many people live in Korea fully elected to vote for about the duel with the while what do you do now I get. And it can view and I know you.

Probably know more about this than anybody we've ever talked it can you explain to us the the the price of Obama care. And will I mean I know it's not going to be your.

The presence -- there's very simple there the President Obama care is higher. -- care costs higher health insurance premiums and fewer people working at the principal and and will we stop that we'll be repealed in your opinion not the governess job I think the two elections that matter the most with regard to that this one in November in the one in November of 2012. As mask isn't as Romney can't work out for the state primary care is not sustainable as -- it needs a big make over we've made a whole series of proposals about what we do with regard to that I think and I also think just to put it in context. You know I think about a Massachusetts status is being sort of a bicycle I think about the federal government is up to -- more electric -- sake I mean -- they both have wheels. But the federal peace is monstrous compared to what the state that.

Unilateral about it you ask him that question again and it's you don't go look. Well this stuff let me answer that question -- just -- gonna I thought I was -- second but don't like but it may.

We'll see -- he enters this 10 48 years at the Statehouse grenadiers. You were widely considered to be the smartest guy in the building.

There's guy the might look to my women friends used to come in overtime in the back the guys that. Or eight years that was -- second -- super early baker smartest guy in the building -- dumbest guy. -- tenacity and this I would rather than a minute. That was probably me and a variety of days as well smartest and the -- yes sure let's face it. We know make lots of mistakes -- to after someone who has had many moments that yeah it's fresh I don't let a fresh and.

Hey you you love women -- lieutenant -- does not to see you that there they actually didn't win the support of the -- or something with Amazon -- they are known Richard for -- years I think -- great guy I think he's a terrific person he runs a small business he sees the state house from the outside and he went through the same downturn that everybody else that he had -- reduces. The reds are real estate business unit took a huge hit over the course the past few years yet -- the same issues -- pay excellent mineral any page that --

Cities that element and he knows how. And it just decided very early learning and figure out how securities and I -- I what I'm -- all of my friend is nice -- Say it wasn't don't know why didn't end did imply that I. I think it gives -- the right guy to run with will be the regular government.

Get a lot of us feel modern candidates -- modern candidate in this day and age do Richard doing. Almost at any level and not be involved in all these social networking things to Twitter is no thanks.

You know you have -- you have to be involved yet we have 121000 people phones and FaceBook we got a few thousand people phone me and where you finally tumbled more valuable message. I think -- 240 characters mean. But the thing I'm forty characters is not much room to to make a point one basketball yes you can handle -- out of there -- that this guy he's Bartlett Thanksgiving -- football game and ESPN classic there ever was one of them or interrupt issues maybe it's helpful and I also liked -- one of the best things about. All of these mediums is that direct response together and scalability of mean at 121000 people out there who get your link directly but when you send them to them it shows up on their page which means it goes to everybody yeah is part of their circle which means you typically Johnson and off 100000 people plus or minus. And you get to -- responses so -- put something up there about you know Governor Patrick said yesterday. That he will that mean you woman delivering on the people's well with regard themselves to write you pop that up there are saying you know whole series comments. I mean -- real good sense right away about where people.

You mentioned high school sports someone and that public talk about the whole matches in Newton north you know and -- newscasts on are Brit. Would should that governor stick then stepped in we squandered 46 million of the state. The state kicked in I realized to the local local -- really really. -- up big time. 200 million for a high school with a black box theatre in and then SO way simulated outdoor area always telecast that that is not that I felt that way on other -- governor acceptance that this is too much excessive it's not right in this climate economic climate. -- to be spending the taxpayers' money this way I think --

I think of the important thing I'm -- is it won't happen again mean bottom line is that state changed the way to school buildings assistance program works known liberal of those -- like that again and I think that's the good the good news that came out above that it. But that is by far. Probably the best example of what was wrong with the old program and and that that program should have been fixed years ago people were -- proposals to change a program for --

Working harder now running for governor than you were running Harvard pilgrim.

This is different and the biggest single differences I spend an enormous amount of my time in the car. In place to place the boys the -- to his. Whereas if you're running an organization you spend a certain amount of time about talking to customers and and and and providers and and vendors but -- spent most of time you know in the office due to the way. No one gives me. -- You know space anymore yesterday when you're the when you're the of the CEO of an organization you more people give you a little bit of space available respect blow by not a lot but some so there's this environment people are perfectly capable unhappy -- revenue for instance they -- papers --

Are noted nights where you have free reconsider boxer shorts and your lazy boy with a beer. Watch TV and have nobody blow.

No they're only going there are no nights like as a matter fact and I would -- an event. We're gonna be it went down I mean I'm Greg you know I was and exploding from Croatia caddie shack and an end game or application. To be counted -- thirtieth anniversary. Betty. He's gonna sign Babe -- bars of their right yeah yeah. I was upset the odds of that they've called wonderland today officially a lot of people out of work now you're on all of it and and they saved the Greyhound now instead of instead of racing in the euthanized -- yeah that's a good -- and -- I adopted a budget but you can only take one block. -- I'm at the stadium theater and war what next Saturday it's separate fund raiser for the Rhode Island firefight so --

And everything you won't get blown away -- here in the city in like the routes through foresee is lucky I'd like everything before and how. They've been attacked I live in -- and responsibility. --

has friends and he's got the news that shape either question okay are too big IOC and they could go seed Tim Cahill and get this thing.

All. I'm left out now listed no doubt we like Tim Cahill but he's in no way Tim -- is a nice man I had met him I don't know my spotlight.

Say let it play you'll realize what you're billing yet got a job what a lot of respect what it but -- 61. -- you -- you talk about good news.

He knows he -- he knows he's not gonna be governor what's he trying to forget my company's forget viola.

Stroke is important number for check pretend to go away. -- if somebody's gonna be cheaper. Guys you get when you get into one of these races okay you get into it not knowing necessarily who else is going to be and you get -- because you think you can do -- better than the other people -- right. I believe I will be a better governor -- Deval Patrick I believe will be a better governor than Tim -- and my job over the next sixty days is convince the voters in Massachusetts that the case. They've opened up on Beacon Hill they had their chance they didn't -- state government I'm still waiting for. Either of them -- what they're gonna do this on next year's budget deficit which they're leaving for the next governor. And I'm the only guys actually put any serious reform proposals and restructuring ideas out there -- wanna have the chance to reform and restructure state government. They had their chance they didn't do it that's what this election's about and that's -- I'm gonna let --

That's what he's got up. The difference Charlie between new and Lenny Lenny would say I'll bet a 100000 dollars would make Tim Cahill got -- for the week yeah. Exactly try to put us while Robin. Let's take it anymore -- its legacy will be getting Deval Patrick real events and are gonna be elected if it happens nobody knows.

What Jerry you know a lot of people of that system but that in the week the -- look at the New Jersey and Chris Christie an average -- cause I would all of them right in front and and it's get the third party candidate -- and what happened -- they realize people go to opposing I mean they're gonna have to go. With the ball all jolly guy because that ten is nice if he doesn't have the votes. They're gonna specialize in it well he can't win. I'm he had no week I don't think he cat and it's it's a -- at -- payment a lot of it's taken a shot -- had to --

We'll Scott Brown campaign for you yes he has a campaign for him back we know anybody could win last fall and two week and I was glad to and and and I think. I think that's -- I learned a couple of very valuable lessons from campaign was cut the first was people really hated the one party government they -- in Washington they hated here in Massachusetts second thing -- and was it was all about what I call pocketbooks of jobs spending and taxes if you're not doing something about that. You're not on what people care about and that's what they're talking about that's what they're talking about them. With 9% unemployment and 300000 people lot of work that's still what they're talking about here and.

You know how much longer really can we actually -- expect all of these folks in Massachusetts are dealing with this economy. To hold out of their houses to keep to keep food on the table mean 401 k's again -- stove the -- it -- by the disaster well agreed -- with this. Because we OK it's like you said you made a point out that were causing him to pull it weekly does shattered every single poll that's been done since last fall every single when we've done better I don't know again you know -- multi -- support. I've been to a time -- Tea Party -- wanted to report from everybody -- probably -- doesn't have shall argue about you show up you didn't failed did with a separate island. -- Boston -- commitment to talk to a thousand people who worked in the long term care industry in -- that morning long to force their own schedules and a get you excited to have it and that's my commitment you -- you have been there with senator and and -- and and and company and that tends to a lot of Tea Party events over the course whose job.

And nice to have you adjustment jailbreak your world you're gonna you know all what are your background as. He wants to serve you he wants to get out there might help you and he doesn't care what your affiliation is. -- from a what you all about a what you weren't he wants to serve you know I don't know why -- just so might not.

Record -- for free countries yeah yeah yeah -- country it'll be blustery and you know to be -- he okay we Glenn Beck -- you know a bunch of supporters you think single animal how many people over the course of the last forty years -- that events -- How many people how many different kinds of events I mean that's what it Laporte that's what it's therefore it's there for people. Together and talk about the issues of the day but you can't say they'll register -- using what -- what does Sarah Palin calls and says you will moment commandments in the make an appearance. Endorse you. I mean people of Massachusetts. -- And back to the drivers usually just before. I mean the people of Massachusetts to endorse me and I want you to endorse maple loved ones socket -- of -- shock of only come as it has committed of course you. Yeah once I love. And in fact met James who have loved them both which knowledge and swift and CI can lose now let Jenna and are now.

Let let he's gonna be a giggles September 3 fourth fifth -- Friday Saturday Sunday right Charlie is going to be everywhere.

I -- everywhere I going to be at the lands them -- tonight ten don't that would -- tonight. And -- the ones I meant the stadium did it wouldn't shock and I'm shocked that he might have war I -- I made a mistake I admit to my mistake blue soccer. You'll sought whenever it parting words to gentle she's lifting because Americans -- I'm sorry baby I love you remember a vote -- elderly and on did you get to hang with Obama on the -- when he was there I had people telling me -- were coming your way -- away. You know which is a secret terrorist and want -- human error and enjoyed it but I'm not blaming him for the -- elected have to -- bush but the weather sucks when he kept. And we've had another look at what audience Charlie Atlanta Atlantic Charlie good to see my sense 'cause we're not a jolly back -- guy.