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Mike Mutnansky talks with Chris Price about the feel of the Patriots after their first preseason game against the Saints and what could happen with the Logan Mankins situation.
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Patriots started the twelfth against the dangles. And we will do on a ton. A baseball throughout the next month but world's gonna transition of football we do so with Chris price. Our football correspondent patriots correspondent WE eEye dot com. He joins us up from parts unknown Chris hey happy football season my friend.
It is exactly maybe even more important it's only four weeks before the -- premier medical under rate -- that you yeah I would myself. Dale Arnold Christian Korea --
Brown thing ding ding ding ding ding a nine day. Well not well the first Shelby that morning of the kick off against the Bengals Chris.
It will be able will be will be broadcasting I believe from from. Brought down there -- building department which are going to be ending -- but you know we're becoming.
Well and it will be a lot of fun it's a great show adding another guy who has been in the ballot check coddle. On Troy Brown to that show it's gonna make it even more they must listen Sunday mornings. Heading into the football in terms of the that the team that that you cover and that its beacon of being down there you were down their Thursday. Opera patriots and saints and I think that coming out of that game Chris I will tell -- try not to get too. Higher too low on these pre season games exhibition games and and the scoreboard doesn't matter. To me if you've got to goose egg in the injuries column as the head of the game you won that pre season game but in terms of what we saw Thursday. I feel like patriot fans felt pretty good about their team's first effort of the year against the defending Super Bowl champs.
Especially when he considers there was -- And one of the year award usually -- namely Wes Welker I think that there weren't a lot to point to there was a lot of positive all of wrote that written a couple of times -- for for the dot com site. Is it. What when you look at it at the the total team effort you mentioned you know you don't like it wrapped up -- things it is just -- of you know the first -- you -- but it was awful lot alike. Especially about the young that's become the youngest of the -- oh lead with a real energy real attitude. Really good -- on the bush very early when you look at got the ravens spikes. -- If there -- in a linebacker spot next to Rockville whispered very well. When you look at though what we government -- think the patriots you know thinking it yet when Wes Welker does comeback is is there we we -- adamant -- on the view of the missing it would be very difficult. And when you look. Particularly young guys at that there. Really the things that I want to see you know how to veterans -- gonna perform. No other illegal because it'll hold up the priest would wanna see the younger one at the other respond in situations in -- you -- take into account the work that. Chosen by -- and even -- according US. But what -- I equipment I think you can point to an awful lot of good things for.
I wanna start with cattlemen because you brought him up -- will go there I think I was guilty of this may be pigeonhole him as a certain. Receiver type look at I -- always be Wes Welker light was what I kept telling myself and I heard Chris Carter say something very astute that not only did -- wide receivers their biggest jump of the National Football League is from year 12 year to. Settlement the guy that until last training camp. Didn't play wide receiver and he looked to me. Odd off the TV screening you're there you'll look like a different player that's possible he looked more confident he looked like key -- felt better. In this system. You look like maybe he is more than just. A Wes Welker light maybe that I and and patriot fans pigeonholed him. As this specific in the box type receiver aware that he you pretty personally like -- god I want in the field a lot of ball patriots fan after what he did Thursday night.
Well one of the -- that -- and -- all that really wanted to jump out would be moved on the yield of the when you know you'd look at him look at adamant. -- the -- Wes Welker you know you can watch receive. You'll think that I've -- you know physical into the Dartmouth and brown -- Wintering camp developers to make people round of the -- and now in the back down not up the back of the even had him lined up in the backfield acting that there is who looked -- this little bit out there that. You know what -- they're preparing him to be the next at -- On the road. It's got the same body at the physical makeup being you know that you that this is being overall football -- I think he's a billion pre indictment watched it overall development the the week -- that wrote he's gonna be really interesting data keep. You -- put up great numbers here and again what I think the important thing in it go to the we that the worried if it goes back all the young guys that this state is if you look confident -- look comfortable in -- think settlement certainly proved himself. On both held --
And the other guy who stood -- for me in the water receiving -- branded -- now he does not start that game on Thursday but yet a big catch and a third and thirteen from Tom Brady. -- have a certain explosiveness that maybe is receiving -- lack the asked last year when guys. Got banged up late in the season. And he's another guy going from year one -- two and coming up a couple of years where he's been banged up with the injuries ball the North Carolina in his rookie year. With this patriots team what did you think a Brandon Tate and the effort on Thursday --
Okay and it was around you was active for three weeks last year and by that we can that we played when I consider them. At -- speed the development you don't need to do in the muster any kind of been around here for years don't grow and -- with the team action. The rookie hope regardless of existing they. Like he said he did not get the start but you. We'll put you know with a guy who -- You'll it where eight people back to that we just don't want. These young guys who look overwhelmed that this year and they're in a few moments during training camp where he kind of looked out of place in particular quickly looked up and -- but you. He has really stepped out. Really stepped up on -- way to integrate it. Moving big third down catches it in equal value locally but the fact. I'm over younger on the learning. Will be refute that statement development. Right now. You have to put together depth -- I think you're number two. You put that out our web. -- and Torry Holt I really do I think that a lot alike about it. Read speed that knee injury or coming -- the Andrea I've been very good opportunity. When it comes to -- in that kind of -- into another question at that point the guys on the bubble I think oracle is is really of the public that -- because. Really doesn't mean much to -- if one of special teams innate thing we're going to see it come down you. You know that there's there's going to be that -- wide receiver spot. -- Watch them wrote because again oracle but -- the special expert but nothing and we yet but. A but equipping and training camp and really have been in that the current -- now. Meanwhile on the other end of the galaxy and make it what to think they can work he does have that special in the but the kingdom one of those two guys I think he might --
Not interest increased price WE eEye dot com joining us we talk patriots here. On Sports Radio on the defensive side of football kind of wrap up the conversation from Thursday's. Exhibition win against the saints that the guy defensively. It stood out to me was was Marcus morale -- a brother of Adrian morale running back from the jets he was a freeagent guy appellation state. Think Eagles had a first in the jets had a look in now. Yet that there with the patriots he wears 93 went past its called at that right tackle position got to Drew Brees and that game. You know nice job I thought tracking down Pierre Thomas pretty good running back in his own right out of the backfield for. That saints offense where does he fit in eight it was I imagining things sort of see what the guy that might be. And outside linebacker type of impact player for this patriots team this year.
Well I think a lot of good things -- the -- he's been getting one more run with the number one. But the thing -- you know you have to figure into the context of the conversation. One of the PP explains that there expert Greg pointing back he's back and -- in I think all being equal I think at that point. You have dirt Burton is lining up that we want -- in Cincinnati that not a peep -- it. Are not at least you know cut at the waters and -- but only 80 we don't look at what's out there global. Regular street -- afford those guys are all out there. He could actively pursuing anyone at this point but you know what the -- the people the option. But I think relic -- with -- I really -- for a special -- ability. In England I think would be would spot player in that position I think he's certainly from that -- really good back up very quickly -- who could burst. I think he's showed some good things I think there was a question commute this season. Where he put it in because a lot of outside linebackers last special -- guys being you know for years and it's in your work. Wrote that we would help office but are we gonna be in a practical roster spot we -- considered.
In terms of the injury that its offer and that was Ty Warren didn't happen in the game. But hip injury that apparently he's been fighting since he says way back in 2005. Sort of question -- get that taken care of prior to this year but in any manner. He is now -- for the year place and -- yesterday you'll look at the depth deposition Chris. I'm becoming it's of the year I know people looked at outside linebacker as a weakness for the team but in terms -- They're not might be or might not be more shallow position on this team. And defensive end and now you're down to Gerard Warren your down -- like right I say what you want about Ty Warren last couple years. I thought this was a major blow off for the patriots this announcement yesterday down their Gillette Stadium.
Yet you would think about the word is that it and eat it are apple and record that aren't as dark as the guys up front. Let linebackers in the drop their. Report that's really good job at that. It out all the -- in the and that report that it will be successful. Defeated an app with the option when we wrote the for the site that -- short -- probably don't want. At the defense that then spot is at least going forward I wouldn't be surprised if he. It's trying to open the decree is seen in Wilfork wide open there. I'm timing it wouldn't be surprised that we -- more animal there now this is really and we've talked a little -- about that in a I think we wouldn't agree opportunity collaborate. We support is gonna get out of the trainers room and at that that's the question that the question if you get himself help. He that this spring you're -- up a signal what. Last human rookie Eric human and that stuff that was -- it was appropriate that it was appropriate physically for the job. And he talked about the political entities that talks at Wilfork upbeat about. What it's gonna need to exceed. The -- in the national football that that opportunity I think that's a real opportunity. Ron great to step forward shall we can get some versatility. But again I think the big picture. Probably looking at Gerard Warren he the majority of -- to that position in that wouldn't be surprised if he got a little bit creative with it and the front. Again we've seen Vince Wilfork X and snapped the president. Meet -- the items like -- gonna become public right you're gonna if you know you're gonna if you look maybe some non traditional look but again you bring a great point you know. Going back to that at last year's figure before that was considered a group who's the strength of the -- back a couple of years. You can think it means you can rattle off one report like Seymour and Jarvis Green. Invincible for -- and I couldn't you you'll know appropriate because they had so -- don't know what to. That's why I think the when the in in the conflict the congress these important remember. That the patriots have made the move the -- to meet some -- in August. Right before the start of the season in years past there wouldn't be surprised -- they were actively pursuing the right -- we have watched it and give August. Without last year -- verdict in August but he's been known to do that before it wouldn't be surprised -- appointment again.
We're talking football Chris price to want to let you know that Sean McCadam -- is reporting. Up from Texas baseball -- Jacoby Ellsbury disabled list with trauma in his right cage area. According to -- told the Red Sox the pain is worse than when he re -- it -- way back in May. We'll talk more about Ellsbury to the disabled list Michael -- activated but. -- you appear all over different spots and W week -- Christian of the Sunday morning football show. You do spots in the -- just that Tom the listeners there to Saturday nobody's listening they're just mean you. What the -- Logan Mankins pretend nobody is listening temperatures a couple of reporters. Sitting over a delicious media buff -- They are -- state be a little bit chick and we just got fresh diet Pepsi's in the machine. What is the deal with Logan Mankins and because the way that I just don't. I don't get what's going on I don't get why he's not there and I don't get why apparently. He and his agent are so offended. That he was offered this -- contract data in team. I guess respectable -- the -- comes out and tells various media outlets made sure to talk to media Alex and say you lost the player I. Explain to me what the hell's going all the --
You know at the request and I think the he -- fuel. If they're petition that was strengthened a little bit on the on the you'll look what happened the united Indian probably. It pretty good job going up against that goes laurel and at the front that that glowed at the front. But the world and -- and number one did very well. But but I I agree I think this is one of those the republic move -- Well I'd been -- and about the situation both sides are -- about -- on both sides are very upset I think with the rhetoric. For a that the teachers are more that. Been in the bank and about the global -- that -- has -- laughing in the direction. You know what I wouldn't be. Surprise if all the that there I think bank and complete. That's my gut feeling and really it is going depleted went wherever you end up playing for the patriot or -- up just look around the lead. You really start to look around the -- to everything that happened and say okay you guys look like beanie collector he's gotten -- looked like he left. Best -- and -- did exactly what the -- card and football but now at this point -- that point and in this story. We're starting to look at possible -- partners we're starting to line up different different people think. Okay you know what did he would make a quick -- partner for the PP because he knew the left guard and let it meet the people who need you know outside linebacker or perhaps that. Whatever. We're we're starting to look at -- partners that the that point in this is -- vote for the weapon a couple of weeks ago. When you look at prisoners of the patriot. Would you go after you pick right up about it -- trinity temple when a and they'll prompt from now back looked like silent Bill Belichick took over the team in you know you'd you'd -- wondered what you need to guard. You know Denver in the -- those two teams Atlanta at least that the team that the Olympic summit to withdraw all former. A former Belichick lieutenant with the guys work your -- when you start to look at the start of with the possible trade partners but you know the thing at this point. It was -- partners who are few and far between we talked for the people who really always willing to make treatment. That year. But you know -- Detroit beat the Mets team mr. duke -- you've got people occurred. We you know at linebacker the treatment of the a character not a lot of those up.
Brought to go back to the contracts standpoint what was it your mind. You know the point where the bomb went off in in the Mankins camp because like you said it any other the patriots -- at -- in the you have the agent and you have that a -- is -- India hiding but the agent is being very active in attacking the patriots and attacking their character is an organization. What what started this because it from all indications they offered him you know 45 year deal seven million bucks a year what set this whole thing off.
Well I think when he talked about the context when when when you look at the whole thing look at the way it went down I think we've talked about Logan Mankins. Also have to talk about how this -- in Victoria Evans notes think -- story haven't. A guard one of the best person. Football one of the biggest contracts. We all these. In no. Frank Bauer Egypt in the bank indeed -- talking. Whether or not we we don't know. When the patriots extend that offer. -- bank -- what -- the Jahri Evans offer for the chargers haven't contractor after the current contract it would after the Jahri Evans contract. I think the ending Mankins in our have a right to look at it that you know what he beat this is the you'll want especially you know prosecute what what that means that you Mencken I think. That's the important thing what did -- know when you know it went that we know. What it would -- that you would we know anything about majority of the situation and I don't think it was important that once we know that it once we know. When that you went down when the -- made that -- at -- given -- appealed for -- today I think they'll be culpable for the -- I think it's a perfectly legitimate bank could be depleted opera after driven than anything bowers and make it.
Real quick and terms of the division. Did you get into hard knocks it all on Wednesday Chris price than I did you a.
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I just wonder. Is it. Is I mean Darrelle Revis says three years left on his deal he's rolling out there he wants more money -- look at Logan Mankins me an. I don't think they're very similar but boy two very good high profile players -- not in camp for their teams just. Is it this all product and a bunch a guys have been like this across the league is -- a product of the CB Ayers that a product of what we've seen a football where guys get deals and they perform above and beyond and feel like they wanna get compensated a different level even though they've already signed a contract.
I think both those guys have been -- the play in the people Mankins. And and and and reap a circuit and the plane this year I think one of them. Well that's where if not forgotten. My gut feeling and one of them and the playing for their one of the medical world but the creators of the I think I'll look it is due to EPA regional bank -- situation. You would have been a free agent. If if you'll rules -- if you'll rules were in place. But now -- being basically tied the franchise so you know what. If I had if if you if but again if you look at that from my gut feeling that in one of those two guys right now Hoya -- in the bank and situation in the situation where those who got the playing for the team. Wanna look identical the world I think. However I do think in the long term I think the situation affects thirteen. More drastically in the bank and situation especially given what happened -- it was been columns -- perform.
Chris great stuff is always you've got an update on Thursday night's game upon further review on it is what it is it WEEI dot com and a month from tomorrow for weeks exactly. NFL Sunday Sports Radio Dale Arnold -- price Christian Fauria. And Troy Brown Chris great stuff enjoy your week able talk decent and elect great patriots up with Chris price joining us here on Sports Radio WEEI's we are indeed. Four weeks away from the patriots season.
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