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Tue, 6 Jul 2010|

Eric Frede and Tom Caron talk about another frustrating performance by Daisuke Matsuzaka as the Sox fall to the Rays 6-5. TC puts it best: "A root canal is pain you bear with the promise of a brighter future. I see no promise of a brighter future with Daisuke Matsuzaka."

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  1. Ramon Ramirez1:03, 11:58, 12:30
  2. Daisuke Matsuzaka0:54, 3:05, 4:08
  3. Tim Wakefield13:13
  4. Terry Francona0:52, 11:31
  5. Josh Beckett9:18
  6. Daisuke0:09, 0:26, 1:18
  7. White House5:17
  8. Jerry Remy4:24
  9. National League team10:55

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I'm just thrilled -- here in time to start the show a few minutes after 10 o'clock has generally and I think this is written into business and contract that. After Daisuke starts he's allowed to sleep in at least -- new. -- my guys -- till noon I mean it takes you that long because won the game takes so long and -- you views so much energy so much mental energy stays sharp and not not off during a game. That you usually sleep then the day after Daisuke start but here you are today bride -- on Hillary -- ago -- I wouldn't say bushy tail. To think my wife Kelly and drag and got a bad about it so there you go and usually you did get it a wake up call our I mean that adds up. Is the horse had described I don't know that strong enough you know I mean because there's such a trickle down and obviously we're gonna talk a lot about the Red Sox today and Andy and last night's game against Tampa Bay where they at a 51 lead and they couldn't hold that lead. Terry Francona was forced to leave Daisuke Matsuzaka out they're probably longer than he wanted to and should have. Because the answers after that -- Dustin Richardson. And Ramon Ramirez and if rural remote Ramirez is the answer you really don't wanna know what the question is right now. Hideki Okajima was unavailable we didn't know that I don't think guy heading into the game. But he hasn't been effective. But it begins with Daisuke hands the first inning for Daisuke again was another. Exercise in futility I mean we can talk about this thirty pitches. You know their church every single start it's just takes forever and I I know there there are well meaning people out there are several white as any changes. His pregame routine white is a need if you don't do XYZ I think they've tried a lot of different things I -- right. I think it's been established and as for years now -- it's like he's pretty stubborn we all know that and we've seen that we've got. Got those feeling the that there's all the little things.

And this is the big thing Tom I mean you watch every single game and you know when -- of -- talking about it after game yesterday there is no margin for error for this team right now. And during this running games where they've been in the mix. Everything -- come together whether it's staying you'll -- hitting a first pitch in the Major League Grand Slam whether it's got action cinema bullpen game pulling things together whether it's. A guy like Darnell McDonald coming through war. We we looked last night Eric Patterson has a ten pitch at bat ends up hitting a couple home -- they get -- cars out of the game you all these little things come together but it takes one little thing. To pull it all apart and Daisuke. Couldn't get outs. Couldn't work efficiently. Makes a mistake fielding a bond later in the game every little thing needs to go right for this team right now it would appear.

Then to have success and -- many little things hurt us that was one at bat that that just that I was it already. At the point of having an had enough. There was one at that last night. It was over as the lead off the bottom of the fourth bottom of the third -- Lets -- it just four runs on the board. They got the Garza Garza at this point is a -- of 49 pitching on Italy and I was -- and ultimately he's done we don't know that -- by the time. So Daisuke Matsuzaka comes out. -- As one -- and it was a five pitch walks I think he threw a strike in there and the other four were nowhere near the place. -- you got a three run lead. After these guys. Let's get through this inning right. And get back up at the plate after a -- and yet that great to rally air apps in the app that the year for the reds starter Ted -- about -- back from one to count. And smokes a home and it's an -- that is why people are unravel absolutely he's a Massa after that -- I can't come out. And throw strikes to but it does over society. It's got to the point and I really thought we had. Her and a quarter with Daisuke right before he went on the DO you know you the no hit bid in Philadelphia. I wanna say it starts up front Ellis is next start was a little shaky but anyway to run in the Cleveland start there was another start -- wallet and and he was. Pounding the strike zone. For the first time that never use those words -- Daisuke Matsuzaka but nobody really wants -- was getting he was getting results. And then. That home start against Philadelphia the forearm. Strain and a possible the last minute he goes on the DL and I'm a percentage Jeremy. Who who now by the way we sort of have a a boycott on Daisuke talk Jerry Remy -- UNU and ram it through the sacred one with. We Gerri give we have the standing. What do you expect from Daisuke tonight question is to stop astronauts -- run the tape of what I said game one which is I have no idea. Does nothing has changed so not only has Daisuke Matsuzaka impacted the product on the field he's impacting the product front of the pregame show. What do you expect guys I have no idea. Of you -- Barbara -- was -- last night out and he did his bit. In the pregame show where using on among the -- he described Daisuke season he went start by start which was --

One dollar a -- All and that's what. You get a while all followed by alone. They've got like three zero.

And you know what. That has been the of the White House have been so much the exception of these last couple years. And the rule in the question I guess now is how do you fix it what what is the classic tactic you know starting for the Gulf Coast Red Sox today is how you think. I write it you know I'd I'd. -- this is such a tenuous time for this team and I know were not even at the All-Star break what you see what you're dealing with UC Tampa Bay and what their bullpen is and how good they -- and today had their slump. And they're bouncing back now -- had a good series out Minnesota's battled back to win on Saturday wanna get on Sunday. You saw what they can do against Matsuzaka. And the Red Sox and what they have for bullpen and you saw what the Red Sox bats couldn't muster against. So on and sign comes out he's up in the.

Fourth inning they had to depend in the fourth inning that -- that he had had it up you had guards out yet yards on 84 pitches through three innings you knocked -- guy who has been boarding your side. A 49. -- third inning with four to the data have to win. I do what Eric Patterson had two home runs you wasted 82 homer night from Eric Patterson. You that you have to win that game so once was of the players -- great we know that. We know that that these guys a phenomenal you've traveled with -- in the first thing you learn Iran a Major League Baseball team. Special the Red -- is how quickly they can put any loss behind -- you have to. Sought an 03 with a cowboy up junket and you know we've seen it time again with his team so. I'm not saying that there wake up this morning you know kicking the lamp shade on knocking things around in the room of the Benoit saying that that we should opening game as a man. That's a game you got -- As you look at that game last night Europe the five to one of the patents in camera you have got to win that game. And the three at that stretch. It just blew me away last night. Beltre drew -- hall in the seventh and eighth ninth all struck out in a row.

three different users. Just you know that's the ball and use all the good in the back in -- small little stretch of time in that third inning I mean it's two -- Public good defense plays great defense a play about Crawford so Garza may be legally a little oil at that point and -- Paterson gets up there grinds out that. -- home on after ten pitch at bat you -- and and and after that Ortiz with a walk you with -- RBI triple Beltre and RBI single drew an infield hit Paul Lee. RBI single Karzai is just reeling I -- guy -- love to get to -- and has had success against threats like you have him. Knocked out out knocked out 49 pitch inning 84 pitches through three I mean you could not ask for more with -- makeshift lineup. And then you mentioned a moment ago tech to have your pitcher not recognize that moment right they're just about the strikes discolored that's all harassed it was you know -- say hey if they -- you stop.

Solo homer was a price changes game where in the bullpen -- I wanna take a Texan to task real quick here homer and 845 area code. 845 is Boehner -- and it's I'm just racing at its New York State. Is it yes something odd just after the city Orange County -- parent. Anyway. I might finally and -- area that's why I'm very impressed by that and of the boards that northern 1518. By one -- look in the five way easily enough I want Albany in north beliefs -- now arms long time ago. That's all changed now now we've got -- off your refugee text or from the 845 area -- as watching Daisuke is like to root canal. Long and exhausting I'm gonna take you to last year because I couldn't disagree more a root canal is pain you bear with the promise of a brighter future. -- a promise of a brighter future with Daisuke Matsuzaka.

You could be an -- a marketing genius for a dentist when that time alive that's amazing I mean I've never heard of I've had root canals and if they've told me that -- I would have been I've got a double I don't know can -- the -- gonna go. Is there anything you saw last night. That indicates the pain is gonna go away with us now and that's and that is the huge question here today and you mentioned Josh Beckett and you and you gotta get him back. And a new war wonder about it and I know this is looking down the line but then you wonder about okay. It's time to have five guys irritation. Can you in good. Bought. Good -- good action have him as one of your -- what he would do with. That an gonna put -- good point I know the calls -- in the first inning is coming out of the bullpen and that's. I mean. And you don't wanna have an.

Eight point three million dollar mop up -- I don't know I mean if you get to a point and we've seen it time and again with this team. At an especially with this manager since 2004. He will give players an opportunity to perform you'll play a lot of different combinations if it. Happens that he has the throw Dustin Richardson and Ramirez in July. What -- the view of what's going on September rampage in the back of his mind. When September rolls around he will feel no matter who's on the roster. The best team in the best combination of players to win a game yes and if we keep seeing miss with Matsuzaka what we saw yesterday. It in a divisional game against what are your top opponents who you're gonna like with -- wild card or the AL east title right to the final week of the season. Unless you can't get some wins now. This can't this can't continue I and I and I know it it is not as simple as all right -- you know Beckett comes back weeks stays in the rotation and and Daisuke usable -- That's not a great solution because you're you're you're carrying a guy in Matsuzaka who can't be a reliever for -- And it's I don't know and I guess separated our -- is there any trade value at this point can go to National League team like like so many others have been. What you should show well Pineiro dimension with what the what Bob rioting going through the starts he could see it right here you know you know going up and down I mean let's start against Toronto gets seven innings the best one was of course the Philadelphia game -- no hitter. On May 22 but it's been a roller coaster through one out for for months a socket you're getting to a point with this starting rotation. Being so consistent in carrying this team for such a long period of time. You can't. Continued to gamble. And I -- at at and maybe the thought of the Red Sox in Terry Francona and the team is okay well you know that did did the rope is getting shorter here and we we can keep throwing about here until back to get back as you have to because you don't have -- right now but. It just gave you an indication. I don't know if it was more of an indictment on Matsuzaka or the bullpen. In many ways well Nevada's caucus stays out there when it was obvious to everyone that he didn't have much left and you're like well you know why -- making a move while.

If this doesn't Richardson Ramon Ramirez your answer this was at this point last year you -- seen Justin Masterson commitment in the water much like you saw. On solid sign -- and -- wasted no time they don't have that guy now. I'm I'm I'm becoming a Scott Atchison and here this guy has become in my opinion. A serviceable. Long relief guy in a bullpen that doesn't have anybody else in the -- and -- boo bonds there was going to be that guy and clearly he's not. So I think I think Acheson has become that guy a little bit but you might see him but once you get Richardson and Ramon Ramirez to get you through that fifth it. And what a play by giving you clothes and we're gonna in the whole volume for you glistening in law. -- put that on that point and by the way as did Bob Ryan put it last night Joe Joe -- out thinking himself there Donald Williamson -- to -- the team on the ropes -- So so what happens as you get to that inning I just did -- mayors come back out for another right now Okajima wasn't available last night made apartments on the DL. What else that he needed wanna go to barred too early because then what do you do after Bart and ultimately about it Tom Bard came in -- run horses out of the barn.

Art and looking forward -- challenges now you've got Felix -- brought making his second Major League start tonight against chip -- who's been outstanding and then you've got Tim Wakefield is coming off an outstanding start up against David Price who. Is on that short -- being the starter in the All-Star game. And it doesn't get any easier for the Red Sox and yesterday was a game. With a 51 lead you think they got to come up with a way to win it that monster -- has got to find a way in that they can piece it together but he couldn't get out. Of that sixth inning could get an out in the sixth inning and Red Sox end up losing six spot.

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