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Joe Haggerty, a.k.a. Hacks with Haggs, a.k.a. "Pork Chop" Haggerty joins the Big Show to break down the Bruins EPIC FAIL on Thursday night.
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You could certainly had compete harder shift it to ship to -- it shouldn't have been in you know gave Gordon took care cook and that's all she wrote. -- I mean it's just that the lack of -- lack of passion. And commitment. To working card is where it's frustrating -- disappointed.
Cam Neely on earlier nearly a big show and giving a description. Of what he saw last night what he did not like -- was regions SARS coughing at the end -- the that was Regis coming. Regis tested -- and personal. I 6177790850. Toll free 888525. 0850. And again we -- one line at 617779. 3535. And again more auctioning off for tickets. To that Celtics game on April 2 you can call that number all for Matt -- at 6179311850. Pork chop Joe Hagerty for CS and in. That had always been the hallmark of the Bruins team. That they played their best hockey when they were physically challenged and engaged against the hated opponent. Entire Bruins team personality his we've heard throughout the season now appears gone. Stack he joins us live in the four month.
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It's like him before when they don't and that's a problem. I don't know if you -- Kim really earlier but certainly you could hear the tone in his voice. He talked about the personality the chemistry. Of that team you've been around -- all yearlong jail. Is that the issue was that the problem how can you come out. With so much at that at stake. And what transpired how you were screwed by Colin Campbell the legal week and a half ago losing your best player. And play like that.
Ellen it would and commit professional -- couldn't pay them now they. Basically a crap -- and pretty much everybody that for the players. That some -- was. Exactly but it's -- they didn't care you know it it's obviously a lot of complacency comfort -- that you might think. Come a lot of different places I remember -- to a picture rally was these payments started. And you'd RTC warning signs that you know they -- reading their clippings your little too much they seem a little consult outside fourteen early in the second -- play out. There -- a lot of -- lock up guys like in the creature in which its young players that. Now have not worry about for a long period of time exactly and -- amendment and Michael Ryder in the middle of deal. Right now there's not going anywhere they're getting paid way more than actually work. You know art factor all that stuff in in which -- when the north stroked the -- time when -- I think a lot of guys you know kind of he's back a little bit for the year started. And I think you've seen it all year long worst that can happen hockey team is complacent in comfort in the go to the coaching that you.
Isn't this thing is -- interest in -- we've gone from one extreme to the other. Where people were complaining that this team could not compete for Stanley Cup championship because the ownership organization was not willing to put the box up here in the table. This past year as you just said they put the box out on the table for young players that they think is gonna be the core group of this team going in the future. And now because they've got the money. Then become complacent.
Yeah it is demanding it completely turned over and -- relatively guidance ultra ultra sensitive about you know the regime forehand. And you know the reputation of being -- perceived reputation man and I think. He's gone above and beyond a lot of time to try to take care of that stigma sort of goes away. And I think it has to a certain -- but now it's one over the other side where you know the inmates -- kind of running the asylum. A bit here. And and you're seeing that I mean I'm an army reserve judgment and a guy like -- and I think. I left ankle -- legit injury that's something that it takes months and months for guys to recover from. Sydney Crosby had a couple years ago when he would never -- that your equipment failure to come back. He keeps tweaking it reentering it solid you know it's a little bit of a halt after that but at the same time. There's two or three at the last night or at the crowds lined up in the corner -- Could have allowed them it is kind of laid up on them you know -- them a little bit into the corner and then gain in on -- again like that were recorded equal revenge game you know you're trying to. And -- out to them the kids and stuff like.
when you look at Lucci each Croce and let's say Wheeler. And then you compare them to say Pedroia Lester and Ellsbury. For -- Lester you close let's say guys they've got their money before free agency years Dick could have. Being comfortable does -- say more about the player. Our management that the players not responding to the security. Of the deal -- does it say more than you know you -- Ellsbury and Pedroia are just that good.
Well I think on one level guys like -- Lester Pedroia are special because hey you know they continue to have that mentality even after they got the money in Vegas. -- grind away every single day but I think for the younger guys like -- like it creates you know Lucic I think. You know being given the money -- the right thing by management I think they made the right is doing I mean maybe they overpaid. For Lucci can add because they were afraid of running into the same situation. That they had look at last summer that it wanna lose them and they want the cabinet and abide. Before it got that point this summer like I can understand that a little bit. But I I think the what the thing that reflects our management team building and everything else. You know Michael Ryder and that's why did make -- four million dollars a year -- particular contract. In the NHL in that salary cap Eric not a bad -- topic and most those guys usually performed. It's not the -- the bottom those middle class guys don't perform up to those levels when they don't do that. Absolutely destroy your people look at them like that up and think that they want. -- contractors and her and that it was a bad idea way overpaid him at -- go to the free agent market that would've gotten a deal like that. And now they're gonna try to trade in the summer because. They you know an albatross around.
Accurate the game last night -- this its moral when you're sitting near post game last night and and I don't know what -- is doing behind closed doors in terms of meeting out discipline expecting high expectations and so forth. What did you think sitting near win. This laundry list and -- he said amok and make any excuses and then made about twelve of them. From. Guys with the flow it's a planes not taking off on time -- twelve games in seven days in the road. Couldn't couldn't keep Sturm on the -- the whole game what do you think of that.
Pride that you -- better not could have come build my basement with -- yeah I'm short the bump bump in the conversation. I thought I would -- I've done it yet like -- work. When I heard outlet that coming up that point over the last couple years where you know and glad -- in -- maybe we're not out little and I expect in the same thing in. You know maybe that's part of you know he's been getting comfortable. But last night I think would clearly attacked the column the players. Are not responding in the game where you know they're they're they're bad players sitting in a room with no lights on right now it -- he needs as. -- scrambled apparently are well.
What happened with the comments about white men before. And and then after that he calls up a media sizzle you guys say at Truman the bus so -- gonna talk to you what happened between those two discussions that you guys.
I think you'd backed up I think some of the players in equities top. And they needed in orbit and like that of course -- and equities that I mean you can expect that the coach and you're going to be. --
Wait a second doesn't want to -- the coach says that. The players complain about it shouldn't need should needs to be same horribly wrong.
Right exact that would -- saying it was kind of -- back after this winter I think that was huge. Error in judgment for him to do that he all the sudden you know. Really backed up for Dennis Wideman and and you know before during and after it and the same you know terrible player collier along. And I think he was trying to get something out of them but I think maybe -- Leonard -- and I've -- We can a couple of times this year where Julian has really made mistakes in the stepped on the subsidies and I looked like a good coach. Like you and I both now we all know that in the NHL in the spirit like six and then from every coach. And you go through that you start to wonder now if that's happening here. Because what we saw last night because the senate -- bank because of him talking about -- after the game using excuse. I know everybody was rolling their eyes -- room -- about I couldn't believe I mean. -- about basketball Michael Jordan and when yes well and was unbelievable files you can go rule.
You know John Deere classic argument classic one was an 86 when they came back against the angels in game seven after the home runs by Anderson Baylor. Roger Clemens was at death's door. And and and you could see the space on TV and he went out and it's you know say that one big play a -- at what he did when he won a game seven -- at Fenway. When he was down on Monday with the flow and again you know my computer and sports but. You know what the guy suck it up that night and sell the game.
In every sport -- the examples of guys -- in the bank like Lehman. We've heard nearly kind of you know giving up -- let me you know maybe. -- that the player it was up. He got up you know that below brandy -- I thought I'd like but my only hope. -- The coach went in which. Ford went out the press conference that look. There are much from me or not analysts may need to come from the guys in the room -- on your teammates and and because I can't do that maybe economic -- itself. Look like -- fair haired boy.
I think the problem we have to when you've got eleven games to go in the season and he knows I mean. Club knows what he's got in what he doesn't have right now in the note the lack of backbone or whatever within that that dressing room. You've got to go out I think of eleven games to go. And address it publicly meant you throw in the flu at the end -- you can't say -- the flow it maybe that was.
Part of our knowledge so early but it's it's a sign up. Or write -- that thank you that's the state would I would mortified when I believe. Are out there and when I -- of all the times you've been hung over and everything and you still convenient cover all those games you know your amazing. It or not. You agree with you let it affect me and I think he should've got up like grown to know looking at the long yeah last night.
You know what you -- you can get away without let's say December that you can go the you don't in closed doors and say -- those guys got -- You know what I just took -- forty I I just -- one but. This bleep has got to stop. Until that December may be due January but they have been reacting. On a regular basis you brought -- the Dallas game last year which is a great example. That was a game that they needed to have they could be one out and they played physical hockey. To show up like last night after what's transpired the last week in and -- for the coach to come out of the -- and a lot most players wouldn't we all agree right now certainly you guys did that -- it. You know I just don't care that much you give them. Amazing.
Did opt out yeah. Chance last night one of those -- and then in game. Would be a change in the record these and that you know people all you're logged and very disappointed by the league and they are expecting you know chapter to what they last year. And they haven't seen it you think waiting for that game that moment where it was gonna happen in the apparent. And this is the absolute time when it hasn't -- 1917 was -- guys like Bobby organic music or watching it would all the outlined in a row revenge game against Matt Cooke. You know you're expecting some sixty minutes of how big bad Bruins. All these different things within the rules of a sedate -- Italian obviously nobody -- gonna leave you know what you wouldn't need that in now on the Gurney. What it would it would going to be a tough road also and when Obama on. I absolutely none of that -- mystic huge opportunity. And show -- you know they made it back and the turtle at times like that and I think that game last night third in the first aid in the obituary for the.
You know -- he could've and general trying to figure out why he would do something like that way he would react and and basically cover up for that team has an easy looking at Sunday's game and saying -- we we meet Sunday night's game to get that. You know a little bit about a caution ahead of the Rangers and so I don't wanna Paula Paula I mean. It hasn't worked all season long.
Whether they're -- the fractured right after that would the other team right the net and on here also they've got to gain back the back whether. Very important probably more important things obviously -- penguins game and you know maybe there's a little gamesmanship going on but I think it's a huge error in judgment I think covering. Of that team and I'll try to get on their side when they laid down given up on all your line. In the huge mistake and that he needed to become. You know the tough guy drill sergeant hockey coach you know sweep the leg about every opportunity at this point here and I hate the hearken back to it but look at. In the past history here -- you know few weeks ago in the season when the coach than -- double. You know way back when because I think Lou Amarillo at the same kind of concerns. Go into the playoffs that that was elements now obviously the big huge. A different situation because the team is expected later in the play out now let you know they're -- of the past history.
Just extend him on the -- Yeah -- next year sold out so he's not -- he's not going anywhere on on I don't listen in picture regarding that on record saying that. You know if you go back now he's. Like you Mecca professionally. Ideally in a pretty sight but not gonna happen this year. Meaning you gotta wonder about what happened actually can't replace every single player in drafting the classic. Simply can't trade scene you know what -- and they'll add their their kind of an -- Jewish a lot of.
Well they're making so much on on Toronto's draft pick right now. And Toronto's been playing well lately.
And her -- back -- Lucci is being healthy next year I think you know godlike -- he's stepping up a little bit more Savard being healthy coming back I mean there is an element. Of the injury thing this year while the plays and everything else going -- nada. You know a simple black and -- are there things that a lot of stuff at play here and they've really have a lot of adversity in the system but they've also. Not responded when they've had to like being in the last couple years I think it because they're -- to -- back and wondered what the party is after the game rather than what's going -- and again.
The one thing that keeps on coming back to me as an. I didn't expect to see a major blowout fight last night. You you get out of Thornton what you expected to get out of a minute and a half the first time we see cook out on the ice you get that but from that point on. Why weren't they more physical the game is that just the nature of this team that maybe they weren't that upset -- Marc Savard.
Got hurt. I think what a lot of guys were -- that I just think they can you know. Okay you know I have ever world that we can go by business and -- that we want all -- eased back I think. -- you know shot or one the only that mean that it's about every single parents here. And as. A couple of days ago while it would need. We're back up and -- in Europe about a guy. That makes 500 grand a year in the fourth liners in the and you know command at the same type movement that from the the other guys but. I think it speaks for from the leadership and opinion I think it's really telling me. You know chart goes out have a flight last -- screen to the bench after it done. -- in the penalty box in the -- complete bags and collapse that a leader of the team it's got the call that team and people all the players and we'll go out and you know. Play them their but stopped after that point it to be inspired by that and that's the entire other direction.
Is that a reflection on -- is that a reflection on the players of both.
I think it's a little bit of both I I refer to -- that a paper -- and you know I'll I don't. Covering both the Red Sox and the Bruins he had Jason Varitek and how he's gonna captain over the years. You -- the ways in which are gonna captain over the years and you know. Never been super impressed I've by the leadership that as -- from mr. I think last year he pulled a -- Carolina during one of a terrible game. When he given up the park you know at the end of the game.
I was there isn't any any any ran up the back door after the game.
Nowhere to be trying to tell -- a full or after the game was over when he was nowhere to be -- big and there are -- that all you want -- right you know. There was very losing streak on the road trees or your. You wanted to -- one of those -- OK they're dressing up it was a horrible game you know people were upset by. -- get a god in the road there and repeat it again Brett there you know Lebanon though the -- or whatever they're doing max. There was one guy on a bike killing himself -- angry. You know as he did you know in the moment and really angry goal was going on. Trying to do everything -- could think of frustration out it would burger addict -- one of the few that. Mean I agree in all yearlong that is played with capabilities. Cared about what's happening on the ice and giving a full effort every night there are not enough and that is doing -- reflection I think. On the coaching staff management has there is no --
I was get the feeling that the charm brawl was almost forced -- of the keys. But he's landed a punch yet --
Out of its affiliates and I'll I'll give and that he's got a right pinky than it needs surgery after the year's over but c'mon at six months during your worried about. A pinky finger at the problem you look like he felt like it was his duty to go trot out there is something try to get go in it's almost like the reaction of the like okay great if you. Go back the -- like what four. Odds is this team win on Sunday. I think that -- you know I think they'd want in the -- in the range. And the practice bat bat and -- even worse situation and the Bruins what I -- citing similarity between. Currency and the Canadian in the last couple years where McCain did here remember a couple years ago that means there you've gone out here. -- And ended up leading role in getting the next round. And in the next year. You're mediocre it barely got out. And absolutely wipe the floor from the lab let you destroy the Bruins you know it's like we're in the -- for the Bruins this year where he may lose in the background. Next year they know.
Tracks besides the Bergeron bike -- give us one glimmer of hope that in this. Days of parity in the NHL they get in is an eight seed -- catch fire.
they're about to go -- to rest of the season. And and start shutting people down they don't have the fire be the only notable for watching capital they've played them are rounded. Capital little Balkan situation arable. And if they really. There have been in the lab school anymore they could have a tough time but by I don't even think you're -- compatible sending. I don't -- enough little marks -- even score goals but couldn't get the pop out of the road and that is not as though those.
Horrible person can't exactly -- questionable washing that was in DC couple weeks ago doing a -- and Thomas was what a great piece in the post they they acquired for players at the trading deadline is concerned was chemistry being so important. The added that the caps needed Glock and get those four players and and I and I -- and follow them closely since then. What what's the talk in hockey but all the moves amid the trading deadline in are they good moves or is the potential for screwing up what had been a good thing.
Oh yeah they were definitely good -- and innate strength and they adapt because -- Wii injury. All the times that -- seeing them but one problem is. They get a lot of good move but they didn't address the one thing that would you'd probably keep it. For which the bullpen and you know I've been told there were actually pact between the Bruins cap and but there was no shot ever gonna win trade currencies and and the eight you know that may change over the summer -- tell them. You're not gonna be the starter anymore but I think so the one thing the capital really needed to do what they go out and actually trained for --
Well why wouldn't Thomas do that because he goes the situation was -- chancellor Stanley Cup. Where is on a team now where is clearly not the number one guy anymore despite what close says and number two they're not gonna go deep in the playoffs.
Because I think people think -- currently in one uprooted family and while that knows the area got. You know a lot I was here that last summer when his son contract. That -- parent has moved here from Michigan. The -- you know they've written recently recovered from Stanford got trees here Boston. A lot of issues with them much more than the surface of you know I -- a -- but in the play and you know simple but complicated at times I was definitely that -- as. So I think all those factors played and but I think all that changes like -- this summer if they let him down and explain it to goodness are you going to be back on the game. -- need to get to go to a good play -- as south relations. -- get that five million dollar cap. Salary cap and induced damage I don't know a couple of.
Our next gonna talk India. Do it again to human -- Joe Hagerty from CS and when your website about last night's game he's very critical as most people. You know so much like about not not -- Clinton and him but I mean. One piece of crap out cause I'm a wearing his -- could -- a positive stuff with what would that Shaughnessy 677790. -- Phillies Albie are always the in the long after the fact -- and we call on opt out of Alberta -- Yeah so -- while everybody is as a miserable today Italy's film pretty I don't. --
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