Todd McShay, ESPN NFL Draft Expert (Part 6)

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At NATO and that. Great if you want in the morning report free agency butcher an earlier picture -- he just like I am. You got thirty to my question about branding Graham and Brian -- so this question it's taught taught I noticed were written -- that the past couple days. What these technical political -- meter per second round pick we got three secular topics. Culinary need at the pass catching -- can't. And what are your thoughts.

First of -- my thought I thought is that any time the patriots can get a good player from and in trading and from a draft pick any kind of been established NFL player. I like their chances then that's where they've done a lot of good work is indeed you know the the best two examples are obviously Randy Moss and Wes Welker but. I've I've said before I'll say to get I think there is good as any organization in the NFL -- evaluating pro personnel. So if you can take that one of those second round picks. Are we you know whatever costs and and you believe it's a good value which they wouldn't do without it I like you know Greg -- can is a good athlete and are you frustrated as the patriots fan because you spent a lot of draft picks on him pretty high draft picks on tight then and it's still -- need yes you're frustrated but ultimately. You have to address that need regardless you don't just avoided if they can find it a veteran player I would go that -- to a great job and that.

One of the frustrating things is a patriots fan I think is -- is Thomas on a lot of levels I agree with few. That they're very good and evaluating pro talent and that just smacks in the face. Overall this guy they targeted at this is got to didn't give us -- she'll say anything they kept the second he came to town. Everyone was saying and even you know from from -- your average friend to. You know you most respected analyst to other guys in the league. It's a perfect fit right side and I I have no idea. I know -- it's just it's this similar system. You know an intelligent player -- tell everything you look for in a patriot player and it just it hasn't worked. That the phones we go to Mike in Weymouth drama topic -- Mike.

Lot of guys great show. I'm curious especially with the yes situation particularly strong as we think like back -- course fits into this draft. And and I'm curious godly place so linebacker named Daryl Washington.

Yeah Daryl Washington from TCU possession wanna to TCU players Jerry's uses the other one Jerry Hughes played defense event and he's gonna be converted outside linebacker in the 34. I probably second round pick me he. He's great production if he showed he's a great athlete of the come by and recently. Everything you saw on film that you worried about I think he's going to be good player Gerald Washington's instinctive I don't think -- Washington though fits the what the patriots wanna do a little bit and undersized. Classic -- weak side linebacker so you as the -- base I don't think he'd be a patriot Hughes a much better shot of of becoming a patriot but this year's class of if you include all those defense events moving to linebacker which is exactly what the patriots wanna hear this linebacker class is very good this front seven group. It is very good I think defense of tackles the strongest position we've we've seen a defense tackling years and those guys can be perfect ends. In the patriots reform which is a position that that I think among their top three means through which and the -- and for DNC Todd the chain along side we go to -- in Kingston -- ball.

On an element. From it from in the patriot spam actually I think our biggest frustration as it's at church. And you know I really hope they get a look on -- up like it's our opinion. On on their first pick if they could get a -- party address but what about a Kindle or that you put any value on the patriot system with one of those players yeah.

I actually think Sergio Kindle. You know he he would fit may be a little bit better disease a little taller and fits in in -- continued to grow into his body. Now the Steelers though they -- some they've run a similar system and they always had the 6465. Defense events and they you know Lamar with the story and Lamarr Woodley. Almost exact same measurable coming out of Michigan is -- is Brandon Graham has right now so. You can fit guys in your scheme and I think branding grams a little bit of a better player than Sergio Kindle Kindle fits their Ricky Sapp. With 12 round picks out of Clemson lot of talent but inconsistent that Gibson and underclassmen from Ohio State a similar that wasn't used properly thank but. Any of those four guys you're getting a good football player and all four of them can get after the quarterback -- alive backers so last year. The biggest that with -- spikes Florida was going to be. Popped and so right -- seed to fall back. Is not a guy could steal second absolutely absolutely and in he didn't run at the that -- come by in this quite bottom line is he's he's not. And as a great speed and and so we know that he's had some injuries and that's gonna factor into a lot as well. But those are the types of players you know we talked about the wind -- getting overlooked -- they don't of the height weight speed in this and their ability issues in you have to factor in the are building there's no question. But spikes instinctive -- off he loves loves contact and I just -- Yeah I have a hard time dropping him you know beyond the top. 3540. Picks just because it -- run a forty time and he's not gonna run one. Well and you know march 17 that the pro day I think he'd be a perfect fit -- some and you Branyan and develop open and hopefully a year from now. He becomes a starter for papers to questions for him forward break we -- so oriented Urban Meyer and we know the release -- there. Between coach Belichick doesn't -- who loves Florida gas for reasons defense. You each spent. Your time the combined -- criticisms about it what it's become certain quarterbacks not thrown. Is there one guy. That you left there when it's on one person really changed your mind. Really left an impression well there was talk Bruce Campbell the offensive tackle from from -- interest -- I've never seen anyone like him I mean he's almost. You know machine in he's got a great football player is so you know that's that's -- the debate you watch him on film and you see flashes of it may -- can develop them. Is Oakland raider written all over -- I mean you you write that height and height weight speed down the 34 inch vertical 32 reps on the bench pressed the 485. In the forty yard dash off reporting that 314. Guys let me end.

My second question I'm looking at the draft again at seven weeks from tonight the pats -- 22. Well when we see it on prime time on Thursday night that the rams picking first the -- second. The blocks third the Redskins board members think America's -- Claussen. The chiefs fifth the Seahawks six the Brown's seventh the raiders eight. I think you've already answered it who changes the whole first rounds at the rate is it Nader is somebody before that.

Maybe the rams at one really because there's a growing sentiment I think in interest being around all the info. I think they want to taking timber effort that one where all the talk is Vick has been in -- for awhile we'll continue to be. But Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy to defensive tackle. They are starving for a quarterback of the future for a lot of different reasons. And as much as they love these defensive tackles they've drafted defensive linemen and missed a lot in this organization has missed a lot from. I've Damione Lewis. Even the last couple of years that they've missed on -- been OK Chris you well that he wasn't a rookie this pastors are playing better but. Not for that maybe not am -- gonna for the overall it right so. I think there's concern about that mostly they're starving for a quarterback if Sam Bradford can show these healthy role well and and just proved it. He doesn't have as many question marks as he did a month ago when you still rehabbing from shoulder I think his first pick our let's get -- director would this have the rams take Sam Bradford and number one. -- be worthy of the -- in hindsight 34 years from now when your back in here. With a I'll say this I think I think he'll do as well as you can possibly do with that -- team right now you know if if the rams are able to draft well around him and continue to build and then yes I think he's gonna be good quarterback in the NFL but the problem is you go in there. And and they have no talent -- all how group of players news and so. Susan beast on bleed the beast most he's a strong in the upper bodies have seen anyone any defense of climbing coming out. And absolute control supportive tacky you've played two GAAP. You 2.3 you can do whatever you want. I think he's going to be starting Gerald McCoy is going to be a star out of Oklahoma I think those first two defensive tackles off the board if they don't -- one they're going to Detroit and three to -- it wouldn't be too much to -- soon to -- like Reggie White -- when they were coming -- you know I've thought about that sometimes you see things like the other -- as -- auto -- he's holding on to a guy in -- backs trying to release out of the backfield and he clubs and there's another time where he -- holding -- the -- running back tries to come through. Grabs them with a left our running back on his facet to grab some and tackles him while holding onto them to the -- insists the guard at the time on the -- let's that's not human being you know normal.

Human beings to unedited that's -- boot to a three -- of sort of three games this home plate and many hooters Tyler real. That's his old the whole body type the whole witnessed the whole overall strike threat to couple commitments -- that but it looks like Reggie White. Thought it's it's unbelievable or at a time. It's the top of the -- Steve you know I'm an hour ago if you wanna listen a -- chase is fascinating stuff I was on -- answers about -- fun it's up we're on the DNC page you can click on -- first dollar problem the rest of it up there. -- In for DNC stick around.