Harry Sinden

This issue came out of the hockey game last night if you're not watching at the Russians and the Canadians it was a one side against the Canadians. Who we saw last week to -- play well against the USA team. I was just horrendous they -- that Canadians were great last by the Russians were absolutely -- The game was over and Milbury is sitting there on the on the panel to do of the typical. Analyst work of trying to describe what went on in the game. And this is what might --

So how surprised were you guys that no one sided as the only ones I was shocked it was just one side and I was really disappointed that these guys -- they're they're Euro trash talking. No heart no guts no no nothing there -- through the back it up -- talks -- who was an average player tonight I know they're gonna bounce back but. He's got -- war can be got intimidated physically I think he's really shocked. Did you -- really say -- road trip I don't you love your loan did. Despite record I heard I heard so I heard it well coming up the -- like these guys just did not come to play tonight.

I know what they don't read -- about Roenick wrote it gave this look of shock. I can't believe this I mean the expression on his face was bizarre almost as Jeff did everybody know what this guy just said -- and then after that. It's saying he agreed with Mike billboard. All right we have to talk to discuss a long time old friend of the show he was that we we'd love to -- the month because you never know what he was gonna say the next and very similar -- that don't purchase -- last that oral bloody Harry said the joins us live before lines. From Florida where he -- a joint semi retirement.

Harry how are you. I got -- I mentioned Jackie and it's great to talk to you house like since we first the ball. Pioneers there there's there's fingers side down order during the Olympics is basically has been cold out here for. But -- you all know about that we know. And goodbye and thank you Paul Goldstein. -- I didn't -- might stop -- always been a poor player not and it playing a little bit more remorse so. It's still enough Jim. Action. Yet it Bichette. You know positions OK I did that okay. -- some humor here forget that already control over it.

So you're this you're at this comment by Mike. I don't I think Mike does a terrific job and I'm sure you've seen enough of them I think he's great and he's broadcast he's honest he's -- He tells it like it is I think that's what the public wants that once the season goes on an Olympic coverage. The Olympic coverage is a little bit different you're dealing even though you're dealing with the American audience you're dealing with a subject matter that deals with injury national hockey. He makes this comment. And people are open arms I take -- you're not offended by the count.

Well. You know I wish he hadn't. I guess you'd call it magic as they would wish he had abused their Bernanke is. But. -- I don't care on not taking -- cut equity (%expletive) you she didn't state Hillary Euro trash he -- it. Near Euro trash being -- total. Period. Complete their -- I think -- between. Saying name where you're at the -- Euro trash that their game --

I totally agree and yet people are taking go buzz word here. And even Canada he's taken he's taken heat up in Toronto. On and I'm not sure I get -- word that word before areas that were being used. Over the years in describing how the -- you know it -- pressure in your early days let's face it you were not a real border. All of a European hockey players coming over employing over -- that you're that word before describing. European.

No I don't think I have -- I have heard you know seven -- rocket Terry conch. Statements. That made by a how much Americans towards a European hockey players. And it. Really -- would wind's gonna hurt them but. Again you heard that used before nine. They said it would it would use to describe the team -- played against Canada alas I didn't. And you know. I got my number everything you know work but I couldn't teach him put manual -- keep my prayer line vote either.

Okay well let's say the there is yet doesn't fall far from the trade but I carry this is Butch Stearns. I wanted to ask you about. Your experiences and 72 when you coached team Canada plan against the Russians. When you hear this from Milbury and you look at the Olympic stage. Clearly 1972 weren't a whole different world. As far as international relations as far as politics as far as war -- the Russians but. Did anything come to mind to you that. Kind fractured international relations -- a comment or anything that happened turned 72 that's germane to this situation.

you know what should not actually Jermaine but it it it made me think about. Maybe perhaps the way I like that period at no stage of the Soviet Union in nineteen not directions. And that. I didn't have any facts to back this up but I sensed that they didn't have. Neat. Comeback ability -- endurance EP. Meant so. Where we're at college north Americans. Cat and that they quite opt in when they got help behind the net turn mentor and the game itself -- That goes back to rise so are shared by a competing when they're Russians sent it since the late -- these. Now what Mike was saying that it it is true and I -- I'm telling you liked seeing I sensed that stuff like that there's a sense and I'm thinking. Statistic to back about put it that what Mike is saying it is she's saying they brought that game where they kind of acted and and you know. I know already talking about I never know what he's tacking about in the nature they -- her -- And didn't certainly choose that was a national team at the Russian national team in the and their players were collected from within the country -- played together as a team many many many games. There are now subjected to. This same thing. Candidate in the US side it is keen to get it just for the Olympics. And and sort of the Russian's just put together earlier. For the Olympics. So. I guess I just feel that they. They bring or restart players -- great players. Skilled players and you know sometimes we have trouble competing with the skill level of and that thirteen sometimes they.

They play heavily used to wear the -- is trashed and.

You know what it is so different -- all of which the American addressed this from seventy to win that. The Russian team you're watching it from afar you were heard -- bottom part we're talking now. About an Olympic competition. In which and I I didn't know some of the Swiss players and yesterday in the in the USA game. Mikey -- looking at you know the fact that one of the great players and -- it tells you you're looking at. Playing against players that you watch and you play against night in and night -- so you know your game inside and out. And I think milk or it was the same is not bring know that they gave a bald little.

Further your point if you listen to Milbury again Milbury says right after this I expect them to bounce back right so to further Harry's point he wasn't talking about them as individuals -- talking about -- dean. They brought their Euro trash game shame on them it was a classic commentary about the way they played eighty choose the wrong adjectives may be I'm not offended by it I'm curious. Who would be I mean I. I don't it was great I heard you believe that the North American players look differently at European players. In the NHL.

I I don't I don't think anymore. -- Instances. Over the last twenty years when he first heard come into this sleek. Where. They looked like they would be you know. Net -- not commit an arrow dart team that perhaps did make it in the first cheered -- End and their career to a non expanded. And they had that kind of stigma amongst. Some. North American players in the NHL. But I kind of think that stated and I think. And I like progression. And and Malkin led Pittsburgh and ended. Federer opera and somebody Troy players in it especially. Every move that kinda doubt Hamas. From any yet. You know and it the other players that are North American players in particular -- and yeah yeah I think. You know that you try to change in media and -- and he can nearly. And that turns -- Cop I mean that they were at least seems to name it basically call Europeans.

He'll get a kick out of this area in the up in Canada they're calling it might -- or -- Don cherry moment. That's out there referring to. You've never had a Don -- moment have now.

well. I think I think done during a little bit to the word game.

Pure product of --

Or he's done some stuff we that we heard -- Meyer called -- capitals that the crap crap medals remember that -- and get people got -- upset at the art of I think. Being that announcer. That and that's what people want I mean they hire you to do those type jobs because they want you to go out purity has been what should be frank they watch it.

Tell it like it is when you say something people get very offended.

Yeah I mean they're they're obviously is a line you can't -- can't crop protection can't comment to me didn't come anywhere near. You know what what we don't want these people to do I mean. I personally I think -- I'd like to listen to Mike poultry do do that color the way it are knocking and I did little sick listening. There's some of the others. -- he's -- here.

On names and the spongy stuff --

I quite -- year where you know. Get this. Center right programmer he did gain from all different cities and and you don't know hometown broadcasters are all the same end and they say yet. You know they team is playing that was the perfect past organized get organized check in their -- and they can't win games in everything we do is Kirk.

Which you know what you just huge set out there. The team's broadcast when you're running the operation here. Did you want you're announcers to say flowery things about your team -- want them to be critical.

Actually don't want to be there I you know I didn't like when they're late to shotgun achievement and and where flowery. And that's certainly -- like when they were critical I want them to. Hopefully. Find a balance there that they could be announcers and fans support team that same -- I don't know. If you cut you know more about that that I didn't. And they're gonna help them out there but current broadcaster color they're really. But. I think that they sometimes I EU on your own show and I'll make -- are on -- I mean. I admired because you can you can be critical -- and I know he asked you your opinions. Almost by sports teams so. I was hoping that we could do that on the brewers' broadcast -- tell that. People that hired him allred -- and in particular you know -- should like. I don't want somebody in there and just nineteen. Compete every night on the other hand I don't want them. Trying to make something not a neat players that they're not you know they'll. Try to tell the public what Japanese. Pew report that the best against them and desserts he what happens is when your underwrote -- like you're listening to the -- that game back Coleman's.

Or try it on March got you chrome I I know that one I know that went very very well be right. And then it never comes out the same way because the wives and a -- player than you'd see the player the next day 00 what you say about Georgia guard -- jungle covered covered all the visitors is.

Like we took two of call it -- when there sugarcoat everything to cause. If you're tune into watch a hockey game you obviously you are saying you know move the ball hockey if the announcers say they're saying. Traffic everything's all roses and sunshine it's you know fans are gonna sit there was some of that that the --

That's absolutely true and and and how hard is absolutely bright and look I'm not in the right union edited yet -- These that you would be ready in describing the way that -- can keep it last night they played traction. They were against. I mean they didn't they. You know I mean nickname it played it great game against the US. But the US played pretty well and got by with critical and this team played terrible. Terrible. And so. Now and then and in -- like. I might know Randall Powell the way he looks at -- not so and I look at it where anybody else that but he doesn't like a team that comes -- shows any kind of cop quality that snack. Acts of intimidation being intimidate. You know it at or order you know see you soon so you player. -- certain manner that you wouldn't get it. I think source and it gamers something like that. And and he didn't see that from the Russian ATP didn't see it and I don't think -- it and here now he went to -- correct except it's. -- That was -- because it is sugar countrymen convenient thing to make you mentioned at some prominent not in on. And outrageous and angered by eight. Taking a slightly I think out of context.

worked in Detroit early ninety's when Scotty Bowman put together an it was a goal of his a five man rushing unit. Which Slava for -- off and Constantine opt for -- Fedorov Kozlov and Larry on off. And it was amazing to watch them play because it was like -- Washington gold. Soviet hockey team play they just knew -- each other was -- all that in all your years with the Bruins. -- all your history with. International hockey in your perspective. Was -- came over the kind of change you're connected for example of Rosie receipts could did when he came here and lit the world on fire was that the dire was there's somebody that gave you a different perspective. As the years went on and all the European started playing.

Well I actually. Editor. Awakening to that and my perspective on the game and 72 and I will watch that tournament from behind the bench. And -- could put that team together and be -- at. And I'd opt instead since that I sit you don't get thirty changing NHL. And Detroit played one way and there's 29 of us play another way. And that's where it worker -- ten years strictly try it and is off in fact they had. Last Stanley Cup they want they had fifteen European -- you're fifteen Europeans -- in their regular roster. So but. Group her back and -- they brought that perspective to regain. And they're the ones that got you try to play that way in future years. And what was happening as I -- Was that. We try to change you European players particularly the Russians were making more eager to play the way we did. In Detroit at. When they brought the Russian players over. The North American players on he tried -- started to play like they're Russians play. And match to me why they turned out at the team that plays so different than the other 2019. In the lead for so long. And so yeah I hear all those players really resisted played just like that. And we had ER I don't want to and because perhaps in retrospect. We didn't we weren't able to get them by the way replayed. You know maybe not last in -- and can point it or series but indeed try it. It took a different approach because so many of them that it -- North American popular to play like -- it. Stanley dean and a meeting that paper they brought a tremendous amount that it Damon. And you know. That's Friday the comment by money shouldn't. Ever beat the top of this directed -- and then there's people. It was the game they play.

Which are gonna Harry sinden. How much of the -- have you been watching. Lot.

A child regained them almost at a time when they're all. All the time but most the governor Arnold -- the team. -- in almost all the gains.

Made huge there may huge advances last year Harry they seemed to have taken a couple steps back is that. All injuries -- do you think it's more than that.

Well -- injury didn't hurt them there's no kidding prayer Chris that this season. Com I think in all it. It still more than that you know we. Coach Julian and it -- parent and a fantastic job up. Implying. Defensive tactics on the team that says there aren't really work last year in particular and this year -- trick and the second senator. And not their right there as a standard for a lot of team but. You know. Kristi and -- our -- you probably Jesus clearly. We don't have to transit team and I'm not this team we have. One scene that supposed to be our team in both areas of the game that's latest sports. So dependent in my opinion that you know we're not but there's a little imbalance. In the first step -- between.

Com. I think. Each team's approach to top. Balancing offense and defense we do have some really good players are presently the cop and the coaches addressed that and let it. It -- court game to complain before the break. As a good sign that bill -- carry that into the rest she's.

it was a killer when they could not score this want to think about losing games night in and night out and go to attend are living game stretch we. You can't win but on top of that if you can't score I can tell you carry the extra people to register law.

And I he had no chance I mean. I know everybody out aren't should be defense of -- joined but. Don't most of the time and -- and you better at somebody and put points on the board here -- get out of the year earlier. But.

We knew what you -- dealing Iran with a tremendous labor problems. A new collective bargaining agreement and going into a totally different system with a with a cap whatever. As you look at right now we're talking about the the NFL. Shutting down camp in 2011. We're talking about the NBA shutting the doors as well in 2011. Com we're the NHL as you look from -- you're involved in all of that. As that thing was soon was fallen apart and got to put together with a the salary cap and an economy like this. Where's the NHL head.

Well it's sure it's just hanging on. I think create yet. You know we have a certain number of teams sit. I do well regardless of on the economy. Although you can't beat seventy -- dropped -- but that's that's an aberration the neat -- on the job loss and net area. But Canadian team there you know they just absolutely. -- I know -- and in terms of -- revenue producing. And you know Philadelphia's never dropped vote and the only at a certain. Not a teen -- have really come back this year and revenues net to gay cop but we have certain amount. Let tank get together at all and then it continued that -- so. Com. You know we do have revenue sharing. -- which is helping but I think sugar commission management feels they're. In order and and I think players. Concede that like what would happen here what does it NHL totally opened up everything you know we are accused of having two sets of books and playing around the numbers and hurting so. They in -- they just opened up everything they have all their books totally choose the operators from the players' association now the players felt everything that's going on. They know every dollar that coming in and so that's not an I report and anymore so. I think they know that problem then get their own problems straightened with -- association. I think they'll be at a meeting of minds so that -- You know make this work even better than it has under this present labor agreement is not it's not right yet.

I get a kick out of hearing people talk and they did it for so long. That this Olympic hockey was great because of the bigger -- now playing in a smaller -- NHL break up in Vancouver. And hockey is correct so obviously the rate the size of the -- is absolutely nothing to do that. But you know what has everything to do -- that the level of the talent of the players and people marveling at that I've heard this we've had numerous calls. Call us up this week this is with the NHL needs to do. They need to clinch -- The week how would you ever do that how could you wouldn't you did expand to quickly but how could you ever go back to an older. And say you know eighty million are debated. We're gonna take that how it how you contract the league right now. Is that possible.

I don't think it can be initiated. A Lee.

The only -- happened June natural. -- but. Don't want to go bang not two but you're right at me you can't. You can't take a project actually which. So -- do you know. I don't think there's any that happening now. Hopefully we can get it. There's something that I and should be done and that's for a long time it I don't think schedule is conducive. To the rivalry that could be produced with a different schedule -- it and -- different play up format. Op. You know I can't quite. Get much agreement from the -- but. What feel. And --

If we could. You know Crabtree create each driver -- again. To a little better extent and in Montreal and New York Rangers and Philadelphia have kind of they're not the arrival -- little -- they should be and they work from so many years.

do you limit you're limit that the teams you like is I gotta tell -- I think we're really hurts. Is in the regular season in Pittsburgh. I think makes it worse last year because it just taken their time during the season most of the season 678. Seed whatever. And then we see what happens at the end because while we have two great miners and the in the playoffs were tremendous. But the regular season is I think where the problem is now it's a high priced ticket. If people sit there sing -- why should I -- what about growth against Toronto what difference. It's not it's it's not relevant. To what the Bruins. What it means to the Bruins -- the post season.

Well that seeks. But I guess what I'm trying to -- a roundabout way I mean I still working there for the Bruins I gotta be pure power and didn't tell me again and it nailed me since.

know. What did you get by the way did you did you get a gold watch the lay out. What might -- get a gold and blue button and Andrea you spent most of the time of Florida offer you up here.

They're most. Well I have been most of the time the Bruins are at all when they go wait for either candidate that can down here and when they played out here actually now few days and advanced. I happen this year with the Olympics had been down here a lot. Probably have not been down here more this year than I've ever had displaced all time.

Should you give us that you missed the daily. Routine.

Hop. You know I do I really do I you know what I start coaching com. And went on to it managing in the present and I -- coaching more than. Now let's stop being a deck area manager in the management and think. I miss coaching all these years much more than a than they really didn't miss. You know being the manager of the presidency. Is more hands on more challenging it. No not -- controversial not only that execute data and content but what I don't Blair shot cutbacks that. It works. It was an exciting. Job. You know little precarious all time but it was it was exciting -- I always do that span has been years since I've done.

But I want final question before electric tokens. You've had this phenomenal career and then what she was talking about the 72. A team candidates seem that you you've been coached and whatever. And yet people still talk about the long -- here. Without a Stanley Cup championship and obviously there's still talking about it when you sit up there on a golf portion your sit fishing you're sit in the back deck. Do you ever have those regrets that -- eat eat eat you worked your ass of you whip through that long period of time. And yet you didn't have during that long drought. That Stanley Cup trophy. Two. You know for for your efforts does that drive you crazy.

Then drag me crazy but it sure cop. I don't like to do well because he does hurt. You know to think you know aren't put in all -- assignment. -- And heartache and warned it will win the championship and you know on in our country here. Teens and people that run -- Any people plan to injured judged by how many championships they wouldn't nice to -- saying that selection committee. And -- really get out talked about a nominee. -- candidate. And say you know he won five Stanley cups. And you know -- CA. I kind of debate and it's -- no -- he was on a routine that one side accidentally cuts and you know in comparison to a great player who may have been on a team like -- Who didn't win the Stanley China I mean. And and so we judge people by eight. So opt in and enable -- I how many championship -- state who worked harder or played out and because you know I I was fortunate to be a month. -- but again like ray -- who never played someone here for so many years. Became a different person once you went to Colorado look steadily a mean. Just the way we do things than. So -- your question yeah I. You know what -- and put it probably got a little. Little bigger kick out of my career -- at a one a championship or two more.

Well defer the appoint Harry you look at the -- Bruins. And anybody that lived through the Bobby your Phyllis does he go Bruins it's kind of what goes around comes around I mean there were 29 other teams are harmony there were in the NHL that. That said the same thing ma'am we would've got cops -- wasn't for weren't as Zito macro and then you look at Gretzky and those Oilers and -- curry. And nobody doubts ray bourque and -- earlier hall of famers and they would had cops if not for Wayne Gretzky and that -- you could make that argument.

Yeah yeah we ran and the islanders are not eighteen. A cop and literally in our. At all it just funny that you doubted he could never beat us never negotiate need more than ruining Stanley Caplan and that -- It completely play now so can't. It. Maybe we get that have a disaster like New Orleans and come back and -- paper and everybody in the country to win Coca.

Barry's great catches up with yup hope things continue well well for you enjoy your golf game your fishing and enjoy life will talk to -- Regular Harrison former Bosnia that was the approach for many many years about the comment early on about that he's had a sense always. Get him on the heels in the pack it in their. Interest I will take a break.