Tue, 9 Feb 2010|
Dale and Michael discuss some of the big name quarterbacks in the league and why it seems like everyone hates Peyton Manning
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Just how many Peyton Manning. Haters. There are in no -- I think there are a lot of Peyton Manning haters I thought they were people. Who who obviously want to see the patriots win more than went through the colts man Eminem makes a lot of sense -- a wait and of course you don't wanna see the other guy win. But this whole Peyton Manning not shaking hands thing. This is this comes down -- Peyton Manning hatred I know people are little cranked up -- I mean really. -- no comparison to LeBron James walking up the court against Orlando. Is it that there's really you can't find an equivalent. This yeah I called the guy called Drew Brees he ran -- Darren Sharper. As he was leaving the field. You know gave -- the the half exiting a congratulations. On and on it's like Peyton Manning stormed off the locker room. And he was asked about it later said I'm not talking about the New Orleans Saints gives a damn about the New Orleans Saints is walked -- the field. And yet people are going crazy over this thing. It all comes on the Manning hatred either submitting your hatred or you'll love the patriots. You love the patriot so much. Any any perceived threat. Anything that has happened to your team any slap on the wrist that has happened to your team you want it to happen everybody also Bill Belichick has ever been criticized. For his. For his limp handshakes. With Eric -- Jeanine I'm now. And any other coach. Then you what every coach in the league on battery coach you what the Indianapolis coach to go through the same thing with the Steelers coach at the same thing because these -- your peers. In the National Football League it's ridiculous.
I do think I did it in there is something to the hatred part -- says I mean it's not enough that you watch Peyton Manning you know lose the Super Bowl. Run his career playoff record to nine in nine. The role of the gut wrenching gut busting interception that sealed the game that's not enough. To make you feel good you cut -- further.
Any -- you know I mean if I I don't and I don't wanna hear the a cat and dog on his way to the plot -- I really I really don't give a lot of credence to the double standard argument. Between Peyton Manning in today. Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and anybody else. Yes members of the media absolutely had to work patent. That is that is not even arguable that that it's. That's not up for debate everybody loves Peyton Manning the next column I see ripping Peyton Manning. For his his side his ability. Or his his dealings with the media. That the next will be the first. Four time MVP. Onetime Super Bowl champions. Great pitch man. Off shocks what a nice guy what those guys right I credit to Peyton Manning that way. And and he is protected in a sense of -- does anything if there's any slip up. Of people come out and defend them because he is a media darling but you know -- the media darling Tom Brady.
Yet less so I think I think is I think his personal life. You know fathering a child out of wedlock and then marrying the supermodel. I I think that that he does get more criticism -- patent and I'm not even exaggerating when I say this. I think he's married. I don't know that I've ever seen his wife. I assume he has kids I don't even know that I mean that's how insulated his private life is. I don't even know that he -- until they -- I just assumed that he does have kids but I don't know. PO I may now. I had no idea if -- can I do we don't know anything outside of the you know the Manning clan I guess artists Ian Eli and.
We -- figure it out there in a matter of about seven seconds you know to type in Peyton Manning here. -- his his bio. In the in the colts' media guy and I'm sure it says something about you know Peyton and his wife. Miranda Otto whatever -- Indianapolis they have two kids and it. Maybe or maybe Peyton Manning said I don't wanna talk about my personal life.
And I I guess that but I don't know what I mean we've the other thing as an and I don't know how Peyton Manning spends his off seasons. Actually is is wife's name does he have kids that we now. Since I'm actually I don't know why I'm surprised aren't surprised that. Yeah we don't know how he spends his off season other than making commercials we know he does that. We assume it's you know throwing those what is the Wheaties commercial where -- thrown footballs in the empty field somewhere you know god knows where. In Tom Brady's case you know we see him we see him you know he's on the streets of New York walking net that's stupid little blogger -- he's meeting the Pope in Rome mark. You know when your married to. May -- the greatest supermodel on the planet today chances are your picture's gonna get taken now on that.
It's you know what but dale you say. That that. The media don't look at Tom Brady the same way to look at Peyton Manning sure they do. If anybody if anybody else had done. What Tom Brady -- he he's got a controversial personal life of any other athlete had done this. I think the criticism what would be much stronger the building -- judgment. Of another athlete not named Tom Brady. Did what he did mean if you if you might wanna write it down and just say go what the facts. He was dating Bridget Moynahan. He got her pregnant. They broke up he left up or whatever you wanna say they broke -- she left him he left her but. We think he probably left her. We also know that he was dating a supermodel while the other woman was price when it's time. And any no other athletes a high profile athlete is gonna get away with that an end without. Very strong criticism. Come up a lot -- poverty people talk about his personal life all that much now. Imagine job. And imagine -- when they say he's not the same quarterback -- he's been as he softened -- Tom Brady is he's thinking about things outside of football but. If anyone wagging a finger is anyone lecturing Tom Brady about the decisions that he's made. In his personal life. So he's a media darling to.
Yet you every want every now and again you'll hear it you know will get a caller who in an attempt to try to make Brady look bad. We'll talk about you know I'd I'd have never thought same province and seat you know fathered a child out of wedlock I mean it's it's prayer it's. If it. Only people even think about it much they didn't think about it at the time. When Bridget Moynahan was pregnant and he's dating a supermodel land you know. The whole thing about it was Tom going to be there for the birth of his child. You know and that whole thing and and now. You don't really think much about it you see Tom and it's on because they get photographed -- you know. On the commoners some than -- not a park bench somewhere. Or or you know riding a bike with the dog or whatever it is but you don't even think about the fact that the moms out there in the dads here because it's the way like this in America today. Split households are not exactly an aberration in them.
Happens. Happens a lot actually. Happens -- I'm just saying there there are people who don't like Peyton Manning. Because. Of this perceived. Media infatuation. You know he he gets he people talk about him. Well. People talk about him in ways they don't and one other quarterback I think all quarterbacks. All the elite quarterbacks and I'll say. Nobody -- any doubt about drew -- I would say the elite quarterbacks today. Our Brady. Manning. Brees. Rivers. Maybe that -- either really quarterbacks and I am an -- Roethlisberger and that list but robbery. He does the criticism not -- actually I got about -- messes up the whole thing that the L quarterback Apple's touch but Roethlisberger does young -- I think -- Fort -- quarterbacks in the -- I think he's one up. Roethlisberger is probably the only one. Who is you know what's funny to let you know how lot of criticism.
You know how you did not the you don't like or respect. Peyton Manning I think you do win Barbara larger respected and had a welcome just wouldn't. Have -- my quarter I'll say you know one -- quarterback that's how I feel about Roethlisberger. I know he's a good quarterback I think I don't think he's anywhere near as good as he is is perceived by many people the way you feel about Manning is the way I feel about Roethlisberger. I mean he he had may be as bad a game as a winning quarterback has ever had no history of the so.
That analogy works because I think Manning is a great quarterback. I think he's great and I don't think I as burger I stepped away when when we to we start talking about you know the great test of all time and you know if you have won game two two win. If he has got a championship that out there and you got ten guys that you need in the eleventh. You bring in Peyton Manning well then that's gonna stop but I do think it's great quarterback I think rob I think our regular quarterbacks or greater right what he's great.
Up. And and I think Roethlisberger is a good quarterback. Out of the keys ball and I I -- positive he's not better than Brady Manning Brees. I don't think he's appreciative league better than Philip Rivers are the -- arguably better -- I don't reply and and it it's a perception thing on my part I -- probably -- Pathological hatred of Pittsburgh Steelers fans or something you know something like that I don't know what it's. He's he's never Ben is as rated quarterback in my eyes as some of those other guys you mention. But he's a guy who has gotten criticism now we had a text or who set all you don't hear about Tom because you get talked over blown up if you talk negative about him when you -- EI. The crap. I'm I can't speak about shows outside of forget all sound like Teddy here I'm not responsible for what happens outside of ten detail. I mean you you probably would not be allowed on our show or anybody else who shall make scurrilous charges. Hey I -- my it was three sheets that away and then I was back daisy Buchanan's. At fifteen to. Entertainment Erica apology and when -- you know I'd just that you probably not be able to get five you made yeah it's outrageous. I found it out you're right it was it was a sad attempt on my part curry favor with educated people. Afternoon just after yeah its good. But let you know you -- is that right Heather Dunkin' Donuts coffee yet as everybody I can use another actually. You know. You you certainly can call up and talked about Tom Brady. Maybe you don't think he's one of the elite quarterbacks maybe you think he slept -- found -- peace interest and today we talked about the window of opportunity closing on a guy. Who will be 34 hero and a month. What they say only two quarterbacks have ever won super ball past the age of 34. In the last 27 years or something. One was Jim -- it but you know you think about. Elite quarterbacks in and Super Bowl championships. And it may be the Peyton Manning's window was closing a little bit Tom Brady's windows only year to. Before -- behind Peyton Manning's but it's it's probably something worry about I don't know.
you think about this that you think you think Peyton Manning. As. You think the window was closed -- think it's closing did not say hello I'm just a closing of the closing rapidly have a -- of the -- closing on all this if you really take the particular thing to happen but when -- get really ugly -- Ramallah. What -- I would give Peyton Manning. And Tom Brady. And Drew Brees and you say. Five years.
I can even -- guess it's possible that that Manning is a 39 year old quarterback so I see it easily I guess it easily. I guess we saw four year old quarterback you know Luzon basically the last play of the -- now.
If you if you don't have guys if you don't have a a you know Joe Heisman type injury I'm I'm. -- if it's going to be some catastrophic injury whatever they can be done it in a 34. They can be done at 35 but if they continue to play of their normal games you Tom Brady had a a devastating injury. And it was able to come back from. Let's say doesn't have another one cookie and yes like let's say doesn't blow up is bothered me. I can see all those guys playing for another you know four to six years.
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