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Mon, 8 Feb 2010|

Peter joined the guys to recap Super Bowl XLIV and discussed Sean Payton's decision to start the second half with an onside kick, the evolution of Payton as a coach over the years, what the loss does for the legacy of Peyton Manning, how Bill Polian was taking the Colts loss, what the win means for the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana, and the results for the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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  1. Sean Payton's1:55, 4:02
  2. Dwight Freeney21:26
  3. Jon Gruden5:05
  4. Peyton Manning2:26, 7:29, 8:48
  5. Bill Parcells4:37, 5:06
  6. Drew Brees10:16
  7. Atlanta Falcons19:51
  8. Bill Belichick4:38
  9. Atlanta Braves11:18
  10. Super Bowl0:30, 4:12

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Let's go down to Miami right now as he makes his way home and makes his final visit of the football season. Peter -- from Sports Illustrated SI dot com and NBC sports is brought to you by Fred seat church insurance. It's not just policy of people and Peter joins us on the AT&T hotline AT&T. A better three G experience of how many hours -- we operating on today. --

How could go to sleep after that game after the entire weekend you know you put the Hall of Fame in the Super Bowl together. There's no time for sleep right.

Michael I'll tell you that. I could find a way a little. It's been it's been -- weekends I mean. First -- Leah. We really. Didn't do ourselves any favor all game. -- It is not that I -- I'm very happy with the whole thing last. Because we -- Geithner who I am very -- very bullish on a -- remember ejection. By. -- that it may at that -- Leah. Exhausting. This situation in there pretty emotional at times in the -- but. So yesterday was if there it was really really on football game that we had a really good -- England. We could vary very.

Interest being afterwards a lot of things right sought that at BM. Going to be at the saint hotel and -- Beat out -- with a budget. -- And -- for James Carville. Two to ninety -- seven year old archbishop of New Orleans to. Jim -- catchy -- very cheap bushel was quite eight are as quite can even make.

What did you think overall of of Sean Payton's decision and we all know what the decision wise. Because his team recovered he looks like a genius if I had failed -- about a dope.

probably but I'm not sure he would have been any yet. -- he would have been eight a media okay you -- all time don't because look at. Look at what what is look at what he was risking in essence -- risking. Giving them all up at let's say for the sake of argument given all the Peyton Manning -- his own 45. -- At at the media Leo it -- Indianapolis what's great 25 or thirty. So that's you know obviously street first down -- thing but. It's not an incredibly revolutionary. Deal so up. You know why I I I love the -- because rationing eat it figured out and you know -- listener who don't know. Basically what happened is early in the off week. Patent and and it and it special teams. Staff basically came to him and sit there is a big hole. In what the in what the colts do. Under kick return team or two guys who fail. Which basically means. As the kicker approaching the ball instead of staying honest. And staying ready in New York. Rating you're playing and leading for the ball to come to you. People if you from the 100 chance here's an onside kick they leave a step for two to early. Which he did on the same play and and the ball is kicked and all of a sudden it's a fierce fight Sean thought that. There was -- at least 70% chance sixty or 70% chance that they recover it I don't know that the character -- that but. I think the element of surprise and -- which is always -- offer an onside kick.

I'm sure Peter you've been following Sean Payton's career for a long time. Whoa how old is he different now. As opposed to. His time in New York after they went to the Super Bowl and jump fossil -- play calling duties away from him. What what is the biggest difference or the biggest differences as far as you can see.

I don't I think he's. Gonna -- older. He is he knows that it all comes down to cam. And I think east totally out treat it taken traded chances that. -- Bill Parcells or Bill Belichick will take. And I think. That has really helped Camelot because when he makes decisions. -- go wrong shortly shoulders he met when he -- are far shortly shoulders and -- you know that's why I'm in this seat you know you. You're gonna have to take criticism. So. I think it's the ability to be a little bit. You know what they're probably two biggest influences about coaching career Jon Gruden and Bill Parcells. Will also those guys have probably and their parent per -- Five. In this era. Get the corporate data on the piano by people after they make decisions people don't agree with so. I think that's one of the things he's done. But I think what the other thing what do you -- there are really light -- Is that he knows. What makes -- modern player -- And what makes them -- and that's the thing I really have grown to like about -- that this'll feeling has in essence that. -- need to get to these players ready if she Europe away so he -- tremendous. Multimedia presentation to them. The night before every game and Andy get another run this week in the recall current Katrina. But I think he's I think he's very much in touch and in tune with the players on his team.

You know I'll just tell you you answer my question I've I think out of but I I'll follow up and passwords some more elaboration -- do you think about certain coaches. Like Belichick for example you say oh yeah I don't have any problems seeing him as a disciplinarian like to see him doing that. Was shot patent. He strikes me as a player's coach but has he had any situations where you have the discipline a guy in -- Something that he truly doesn't wanna hear.

Yeah I wish I could remember walk -- one doesn't really come from mine. Michael -- I think he's spends I think he's been pretty direct. Waited tear it shocked me. I think he's been very direct -- bush I think there's been times or he's been very unhappy repeat Bush's offseason effort. And he gets -- and he basically holds the EL EEE. You know people were playing time over so. My feeling is I think he's I think he's able to do that. But I think sort of like the patriots -- and and giants -- and that means it Parcells coached as pretty much kept in house pretty well.

Peter in the aftermath of the loss and now -- career in nine in nine playoff record does the Peyton Manning legacy discussion change for some folks.

You know I listened to -- Everybody talked about this and in fact I'd even my opinion about it in -- You know I thought if he won the game he'd probably be considered and -- I've quarterback of all time but. You know lower or maybe 567 right in the -- but. I think part of that is a little bit silly because we're talking about it a lot of cards like it's -- mid career. Now is pin and retired are never played again that we are ultimately like -- but it legacy. Basically happens and is taking care of after he retires from football and our street gets cut -- also. I don't. I think it's a little bit futile. To you know the start on definitive conclusion I mean I think if he wins. State Street championships or the army before. I think he'd be eligible -- again it's. You know all the great quarterback but. I mean until he does bad it is seems pretty silly. To compare guys like -- and -- if the quarterback position so much about winning compared garlic Peyton Manning cougar like our program. Who played for ten years and won a championship game in at least seven times so. I would are probably won't hold off on at and determining anything but clearly. You know he continues on -- on the past. Hey you know and winning at any player game you -- in Iraq can be seen as it's great it's it's -- Joe month analog.

Peter are usually have a lot of good stuff on Monday Morning Quarterback one of the things in there. Refers to a conversation I had last night outside the stadium. With -- Bill Polian what would you say a the highlights of that conversation were in. And how how would you describe. Bill Polian who's pretty Yahoo! could be an emotional guy how would you. Starting -- state.

He was he was extremely in control. -- stop to do an interview with a local NBC affiliate and now. In Indianapolis and then mikes off -- talent Tony -- are at. Do you turn when he saw that bill had stopped the park this guy and so writes that talent right behind you. And and it basic train once they listen. You credit for the -- today they repair team they deserved to win which they were we also regain. And that doesn't mean that they would beat tomorrow but the colts used to make enough plays and and it is very very impressed and rightfully so Drew Brees I mean if you finish 29 out of 32. Would drop and despite. In your laughs -- 32 throws. I it was unbelievable that I just absolutely unbelievable and he started slow. And ended lake shall send in 1987. So I've got so much respect. For him I mean. Eighty also our -- for -- and I think polian attitude. In essence was. Listen we make too horrible place. In -- and losing the onside kick and in not making the one are uncertain one late the first half. He didn't blame peer Kirk's column but I have a feeling that he didn't -- Pierre Garcon because he certainly get a lot of blame any individuals but. You know cultural lives to fight another day they usually do it's just I I raised the Specter today and it. Beginning to look a little bit like. And be Atlanta Braves I mean they -- win their division and make the playoffs every year but how often do they won a championship right. I didn't even look this up let's -- force or even a marketing but. Isn't it the case that the Braves one I took the -- on one that commemorated and that is --

What's it called -- 1995.

Don't so you know I think peace I think they were really disappointed but I think. Take it if I'm if I'm polian likes a lot of these are the odds makers are urging people like your next here to win the championship. And they have the lowest out of anybody's so a video. Eight AB if you if you're if you're football -- Indianapolis you mark first few days and then you basically -- a -- We might not really light Bill Polian very much we might -- Jim Caldwell called fish but. What taker chancellor Payton even though he didn't play very well in the clutch on Sunday and that might be recurring trend.

You tweeted about hearing from a friend in New Orleans talking about what it was like in the aftermath of the win. Can you put this in perspective what it means to the city of New Orleans in the state of Louisiana.

Yeah trigger violence. Wanted to be out there I mean what was crazy is that. These hotels in New Orleans were full occupancy on Saturday and Sunday contract this is that this the most hilarious -- You know that VW LT if there's 50000 watt station in New Orleans that does the saints game on -- radio. Had their pregame show lead. Miami. And flight back to nor -- Because they want them to be in the quarter royal saint --

Green you can train your on the site it became that all of a sudden. In Asia RP a pair he's right going to gain many more you it's just. He left town on Friday night. They -- you know it's funny that -- nor want this such a great story I tell this story guys that. I was in town in in in New Orleans so I've got six weeks ago from -- so. New Orleans game it was a trading night. I was out to dinner with the PR got a break spent so Ed werder couple more people. I impound and worst sit there and that's take place -- mr. John. Inadvertent this circuit Norman a beautiful area or fitness or. And great pencil appear Eric is you know. Oh Archie -- hundred ballots Coleman's -- she'll come and appear illustrator on the five minutes player Archie Manning demonstrating in should capture rate forty tried minutes and he goes yeah yeah -- Olivia Decker breached club Christmas party tonight it's not altogether bad that I had to leave.

Your site where they fit he would not accept accept this and again I'm not trying to dramatize this happening green bank. I'm not just referring to this paper program register -- just talking about it's just different. In in in in New Orleans where they are such a sense of community and and down the -- you know when they lost it appears in the playoffs three years ago in the NFC championship game. When lately and expect in the Portland in the wee hours in the papers came out early to make -- The Jerry -- picture Atlanta on the front page of the New Orleans times Picayune -- bless you always. You know in other words you lost in -- he's got creamed. But we love you and don't you ever forget it somehow. I don't think people over the Errol on the when the patriots lose. Sleep cheaply -- I everything's fine. You know but international trips were paid to ignore a month and they just. They'll love that -- a reservation.

now let's let's breakdown the a Hall of Fame selection process and some of the some of the choices. We talked about this on Friday you're gonna be every big Rickey Jackson advocate you've got and I'm a little surprised. With Floyd little I don't get that went and in somebody's gonna have to explain that went to me. -- also don't get why Shannon Sharpe and Chris Carter on the outside looking in.

Well look at it this way. The you know. The the recent history. All of modern era. Eight candidates are pro football all the training is that. For every one of these offensive player to get him. One point six offensive players it and so the last few years we've been making it conscious effort to try whenever at least I tried to do it whenever close. To go with the in this group right here there were ten. All their key players eligible out of fourteen players are also on Korea out -- ten all they key players so theoretically. Most. Not all but most all their key players eventually we evolved I. So what ends up happening is that you end up a lot of times have a tremendous backlog. And then you have to try to figure out and I ask this question you know I apps it's just -- at least you guys. We got other interior and security and here's Chris Carter on Gregory. And that camera now. Depending on what area of the country you're from depending on which one you solemn -- Think it's reasonable -- does suggest. That a lot of guys from the upper midwest might say we -- with Carter. Lot of guys from the northeast might say read delegates from -- Astros. I think we got Peter try to restrict selectors from the state -- California might cheap timber out. So it's natural. That those votes get divided. And -- are trying to do is I'm just trying to explain views some of the things. That go for our minds. And look out tell you that I supported. Carter and sure absolutely without reservation. Okay. And that the other voters are gonna have to do it you know they have to come up with theories and why they support somebody else but. Wanted to reason why I don't we get that or -- because if you support what they want the option. Who -- is definitely call it football player. First of all that's center in the nineties. You know a few guys who played in both. Equal to the white Stevenson. So I mean you know anything you're making truly is. What he would be one thing if you that they were putting in content though. He's really not -- fight -- Michael I need that were drawn on -- obviously. You have to actually little I've been varied. Outrun. And the fact that I have -- Detroit little and so. You know I can't I can't really argue Levy but the only thing I can say if you read my column today going to be really really interest in trying. Is that because I presented his case you can -- And a.

we read that I I read that had very interest and he said he saw about 12100 of his 16100 carries and but what Peter. I appreciate the the attention to detail that that -- has there. But basically you're saying he's saying. At the guy had a better team. Even he would have done better well. That's not really just not the spirit of the hall of fame and I think part of it as your talent your determination. And part of that is a lot being in the right --

But let me ask you this question Michael I always thought that a guy like -- no opus. Who's got a lot of the same. And mean and it's hard to judge. Extremely articulate -- tackles and its architecture. It's -- gets tackled Antarctica sure which acts and things like that for players who play in the sixties and seventies but. You know a lot of people who who -- approach -- I'm fit Khatami nope it's just the mention below it but it's sort of like. However eject -- below Lawrence Taylor. Well I mean no display or opening. The Atlanta Falcons. And I believe that I could play a horrible things ought to have a chance if they are truly great player to get all train.

I agree with that do you -- this -- don't you think floor little's a great player you probably don't pages that you didn't support.

I I probably don't but but here's my attitude felt like well I'm one of 44. And I respect the other people and there are a moderate -- with them or not is another matter but I respect the -- And it NF 80% of them are more full. Report little -- all -- I don't say well -- all Kramer my portrait triggering. He's -- about it its agreement he all the Famer and I respect that but. I think that I you'd think. I mean I true I do not remember a player and dad died and made Peter and then and again this is not technical. -- ready to act plays but. If true this researching it strict diet feet behind the -- but it certainly is carries. In professional football is numbers clearly. Are not going to be good if somebody else. So again that's up to people to decide about whether that should make the difference it will April 4. My own opinion is that it didn't make it different a big enough difference for meat. The C averaged three point nine to carry at 11000 air rushing -- and I just don't think that's enough. But it sure a lot of people that --

Final question before we -- ago. The think it was smart for Dwight Freeney who played yesterday.

All right -- because in the first half he. You know he had I know I know. Armenia one sack and many have another impact rush. Where he forced to restructure quickly. Now he basically what that. Non factor and I'm not even -- this -- some -- should check on the first draft I was EO charting his plate and everything but in the second half. I was looking at other things. But but a pro -- you know what I would say is that Freeney. Was such active and not. In the first have to make him being active war that you always have to ask yourself -- gonna be active if he isn't. You know I and I don't know the depths of their their. They're. You don't know or somebody else to help them meet current special teams are some moral but I don't I don't find a lot of fault and try to play.

Peter we've appreciated it all season long it's been a blast for us we enjoy talking football with -- yet. I know we'll talk again in the future but have a safe trip home and we'll see you again soon.

Sounds great excellent call any time.

Thanks Peter Peter thank you that is up Peter King from Sports Illustrated SI dot com and NBC sports brought to you by Fred seat church insurance. It's not just the policy it's of people bill thank you Michael.

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