Curt Schilling

Are the big story now Mark McGwire has finally come clean now only has he admitted using steroids but he he's giving you. A lot of details here including. Admitting that he took steroids during the famed 1998 season in which he broke baseball's -- on record. He also says that. That congressional -- he did what lawyers to hold him to do joining us live on the phone line as a party Curt Schilling -- MacArthur and our current and all. Anchor was there for that a congressional. Hearing what's your take on McGwire and how he handled this thing today current.

I think he's the first I'd ever calm. Real point legitimately claim. I know -- while you are good ones in and an ever did it again I think everybody due to some degree. But and so you have his word it was kind of like -- revealed there was speculation -- it's gonna. -- I'm glad I'm bloodied and it.

Does this play well do you think with a fans cause I agree with you when you click of most of the guys that -- been. You know forced to do what they're giving you a little information as possible I mean he wanted the -- here but nothing ever.

Until it seemed like everybody else lies about it a simple that why about the lies right in and it's like you know. And and I always feel like giving party your guys talk about book like this it's it's there's ten times the -- you don't know -- city used that. On and off the route -- might -- probably preacher based on. When he gets a look at -- in the way he was did he predicted he used the entire decade and why wouldn't cute you're good results he got.

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Now known guy came clinical Jose game called politically right you don't need them out. Of character pieces. Well let me ask about that congressional hearing because Maguire is saying today. That the reason he can't do that that William I hear that about the past idea. Was because lawyers. Addressed that with him told them that's what he should say and you know one. I'm buying. Now you'll -- US said some things before that congressional hearing. And then you kind of backed off when you got that congressional hearing and I remember asking you that after the fact and and you said that it's a lot different when you're under oath in a congressional hearing where you advised by the attorneys.

And I mean c'mon that the -- got need subpoenaed. Were were locker room. Chatter grab ass stuff that you do on a daily basis. And part of congress you're under oath to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth -- if you're gonna put a name out there you're gonna end somebody's career ruin somebody's -- And and I having never actually seen -- inject themselves anything I would have done any but it would have named. What a bit of speculation and I certainly wasn't gonna give myself a -- at anybody else in trouble without knowing for a hundred security fact that it was true.

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That's on -- and everybody everybody real on me about claiming up there was nothing for me just set. The -- that the -- and I've been quoted on work again they're the comments that you make on a daily basis in the clubhouse when you're when you're shooting the bull. Pop -- this crap you don't know I mean you speculate talk to -- and over the course of a nine -- these in the a lot of people say a lot of things that are -- Boland and and blown out proportion and you get into discussions about that we it was a common topic for prolonged period of time and injure your feelings on it we know what -- I spent -- opening our department. The only -- in almost opening.

I was over an -- up everywhere -- underdogs did does that put pressure does this put pressure on anybody I know you're dealing with perjury cases in both Rogers and Barry Bonds case. But do you think it puts pressure on anybody else in the agreement quiet -- clean but he gave us lots of details out here. But there's a put pressure of the guys down to come -- could I think it ratchets it up with the media I think this is a brilliant move by McGwire it's.

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Hello. He told a story we're expecting to hear from everybody else who got caught right. At this store that's. That really is the only the LSU -- guy who went to a legitimate doctoring got a legitimate prescription for something that was you know bit. You know. The extreme cases were stories -- prescribed. If you don't c'mon do what he did everybody else's sit there going well what else but we now.

Colonel Lou we've we've talked about two on the show how do you think this plays in the public and how do you think you. It plays for whole fable of boulders.

No way of a -- what I know about mark. McGwire. I don't think he cares about -- one. I think he wants to com back. And coach and be on the baseball field and gimmick about to be in the apartment again. I don't think he gets to -- about what people say it right are really don't but he never was a guy who was motivated by that stuff. You know he was he was motivated to be well I mean. I would look at him like outlook like look experience since that you were already one of the best ever been he had to -- to be even better. I don't get that I never got that.

But -- figured you -- this this admission this especially as detailed as the was. Do think this changes the minds of some voters who do you think of the public forgives them. As opposed to sell more bonds.

Lot PRI. I don't know I mean I I -- market I think the world mark and and and I've known him for -- a long time. And I don't mean any disrespect chemistry all paper anyway. Meaning get a lot of home runs for a lot of years and not all he ever did. They are and that that I'm not belittling that but the whole thing it's for the best -- the best. And and you know he would ever guided that that that he he. I don't know I don't know I I I think it will see articulate getting a pass -- but for me it's there's a there's a line that there either commit. Once it's cross don't ever go back when that first player. That that Palmeiro or bonds or somebody goes in then no one can ever used. You know the story defense again --

Yeah -- Gore's problem though now that he's admitted that he did the steroids and he's claiming he did it from the late eighties on. You're right one dimensional player in that. His greatness was based on his power and now we all know by his admittance. If that. He got the power duo two performance and it --

I I think he was but actually you -- and ridiculous have a lot of power but but I have always argued in and you'd. You know football players can probably give me a much better response that this than than than people other people. It in the that I've never looked that's steroids as that the most -- for these guys to do that to get huge. -- It's in a baseball these I would look the -- uses steroids to recover faster at the peak pressure. And then I have always for everybody that talked about talked about. Deep deep down time pay it's is smaller and less in and you feel fresher. For for being -- feet and and I would argue that that backed if you. An enormous advantage over me up September 1 -- its its contract and after -- picked -- some decent figures showed up like its first basically trying to.

Oh that go steroids it's a natural -- that makes you more aggressive. So your voucher -- the -- a little.

And the capacity that was it wasn't the biceps and triceps it was the bat speed and and and the fact that mark acquire could be -- Barry Bonds were were gained fresh April pressure on September 1 and I was in no I don't want to. Academic -- to Bennett I'm in --

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The news every you know what beetle a bit bit to leave a telling sign it there we all talked about this all the public freak injuries not not what -- pull any humorous quad. It's that it's that. You everybody talks of the fact that steroids over stresses your body and you you break joints you tear ligaments and very unusual odd places. And you looked at all the guys over the last ten years we've also. That's -- your.

Well -- because -- muscle mass because Brigham and attendants or journalists.

Right -- you can't you do freakish things to yourself elementary standpoint people go. -- that's odd that we haven't yet but he -- like that.

Now we've pulled muscle to catastrophe. And hereby sentenced to put that a different sooners but we'll talk you get that body without taking steroids at.

You know what -- that yeah but it is not a bunch of real athletic bonus -- and we joke.

I've. Got a glut drove to have a club expects photo. You know your your point about McGwire and you certainly would no corrosion -- quite well if that's his motivation. To get back on the field to be a batting coach maybe you know manager who have whatever down the down the road the only way he was going to be able to do it. Was by messing up play just as you know what it's like. And we're trying to figure this out how is he going to do this come February when pitchers and catchers report -- every day -- only every day but let me go to another city. And that media's popping into the clubhouse asking that same question over -- easy answer all the question now.

Maybe five years ago he did it perfectly because if I'm -- might sit down and spring training at first day and they looked and you've got sixty minutes. I'll answer every non baseball question we'll ask me and I will not answer -- double in the entire season so far away anybody answered everything you could -- ask him anyway. What should ask -- who else you know but he backed up all the people on the bus.

You don't have to do that cancels its I wanna pry it open to creativity Dutch territory.

And his declaration though we talked about he incident talk about everything somethings who were given Astaro because it's right there and treat.

It's just went so honesty you can clique of I think he realized. This and I'm going to be in that environment point 47 for nine months a year. I'm not gonna give anybody an angle it'll just come clean and again I think Canadian mission we were we all wish everybody would make when they got caught. Instead of the well you know I was trying to go back and -- a one time and it was my dad's.

We know we never know and hope it'll be interesting here from. If he gets really different treatment of very positive treatment because he's -- cattle in a variety here for the last five years and out of sight out of mind. That people keep on talking about them but he's not around. I ordered if he gets treated well by the public by the media and they start reading positive things about them looking at what he's done and it is just mission. If more guys out there don't say you know what maybe I should just -- up.

I think the guys that they don't stand is to dictate present time yes overall I've ever heard the buzz and also Clemens -- until the end now I don't know there -- yeah.

They know that people want to know -- consider this through and so -- so much if it's so much now. If they admitted now that people would stop hi Leo you don't register a dark it in you know him well but Giambi came out and said very little -- his line was. I apologize for doing what I did a summit but he never wanted to description of what he did it. Whatever it is acceptable. And a likable guy. Now Maguire seems to have that some of that like ability factor as well and yet look at how the public and media. Treated him and now look at what will happen after that.

Yet what you know what there is there is another piece of this is in bulk discount this is the fact it. A lot of it has -- the kind of people you deal would mean. Everything I knew it never -- senses developed very. You know he was but someone who absolutely. Was just a bad person treated treated. Treated to many I always kind of just teammates somehow bait -- acted interacted with with non uniformed personnel about kids -- some stuff. You know I I obviously I've heard in in the last you know. Couple years that bonds was the worst ever added and Clement was not really cool about it in -- expected that bet that this committee says more about even anything else. How you treat -- quote -- little guy. In nick and Jason Giambi world's nicest guy McGwire really nice guy both guys are going to I think debt. Different treat.

But because they're they're they're different -- so -- that -- People so laments that Nevada wants it was the worst human being never -- his life a couple of guys that played with them or human being.

I've heard things that he said and done and I knew very I was frightened very before we have the same agent coming -- and when I was coming up and they and I saw him say things and do things to people that site is set back and went.

Yeah that's a point that people missed because you if you remember. There were a lot of people that were citing. Race in the wave that Barry Bonds which treated. By the media and and yet. Roger Clemens get the exact same treatment from the media when his name popped up in all of this it all had to do with bonds. And what they thought appliances directory and -- don't do the caller restores you know.

deep hatred of people like crap. I mean and then at the time the -- it was a party played.

But I liked it I wonder what what Roger's thinking right now Rogers in this and Iraqis in this two million dollars up against the mountain but he's got to be looking at especially now the world turns positive. On Mark McGwire and here's climates missing out an abacus is a hall of Famer if these claim he is all right.

I don't think anybody on this planet thinks these points so why don't I don't know exactly you I -- I spent ten years. You know there was a guy who was instrumental -- Europe and and the lecturer in the speech so I got it was about hard work dedication and passion integrity ethics and and also the stuff and and then. Come to find out it was brought to crap -- similar.

You could still take steroids and a lot of work.

Absolutely that's the that's the thing about lot of those guys I mean -- and bond both guys had unbelievable workout regiments. Which would -- took it to another reliable I mean that and -- know as bad as you know the other day. He I don't know I it's it's it's disappointing it's frustrated that I guess that it can't I guess a couple of patrons and so I'm I'm a tobacco -- in the -- that -- and I'm a little bit prompt. Probably a little bit prouder of of the fact that I did -- the way I did it. When -- said and done. And that in the -- defect right experienced guys that were cheating and probably a lot more than ever now.

Know a lot more you know to want to buy it but did give a date -- I got three rings and -- and and so. I don't think steroids -- that it up with a micro which is lawyer really care.

Are no more question for you. As you guys that has experience -- as well what they'll be doing your football teams eliminated.

Oh really you won't stop you plug -- in the regular season and Paul -- Like -- because people you know. It's jump but who knows it's actually -- last week he was that he would -- I know I ultimately got I think children aren't gonna wake they're not I'm more of -- in --

Quiet and negatively let's go don't you tell us when they -- To a big we take solace in the fact that they actually made the playoffs is that -- proud salute to I don't for a lot of franchises maybe your team was a rude and -- the Internet as a I.

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