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Wed, 23 Dec 2009|

Legendary baseball writer Peter Gammons joins Frede and Bradford in studio to talk about his homecoming to New England, how and why his long tenure at ESPN came to an end, and shares some of his favorite stories from the ten year run of his charity event "Hot Stove, Cool Music." Peter also fields questions from the guys and listeners about the many moves the Sox have made as well as those they still may pursue.

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  1. Mickey Hatcher27:13
  2. Mike Cameron30:52, 31:16, 14:48
  3. Arizona Fall League13:34
  4. AJ Burnett38:54
  5. Casey Kotchman26:09, 34:07
  6. Felix Hernandez10:28, 10:32
  7. Bronson Arroyo7:21
  8. Vernon Wells0:55, 21:11
  9. Melky Cabrera31:54, 41:00
  10. Jack Wilson47:45

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All right the warm up pitches are complete. And coming in. Before his appointed time at noon. As the commissioner Peter Gammons Peter welcome happy holidays are happy good to have you here when we got the break up that'll golf cart doing gramatica -- baseball he's sent a federal way. Well worth the -- rob said Peter we're not accustomed to wise you know. People coming in a -- sit behind microphones. In the studio getting here. Early it's usually like there's there's that music for the opening of the show being played in their run into to position -- We appreciate your untimely personal. Usually watch for awhile and our group we bring guys in players in from the its fifth -- some players are. Arm. Which show up at like ten minutes -- into the show we. I thought that they. I refuse to believe that -- I want an entry you know they want they're there are your record. The most responsible person we ever have Vernon Wells really come two hours early. Before we even have a meeting and be on the Internet be asking the question totally do this -- do well. Was -- before he had so much money to count and -- originally I was davis' absence nature and a very responsible persons. He's tremendous -- there -- Bert burns on the other hand one. I have happened fifteen minutes we -- have got a half an hour show assured of fifteen minutes into the show NC ship them over to fox or you know all the jerseys and so much time trying to get necessarily match -- -- that the -- that takes a lot of war and destroy it should work we're parity rules once I was -- referring again and that. Alabama would work Hudson Mulder and does he go down. On doctor Rangers place. We're like an hour late because there's too much and said it takes eater a two hours to be able to work scruffy. Florida area yeah. We spent all this time like spiking it making your workers if you just and I have been. It's classic while -- here we're gonna talk about hot stove cool music I just wanna it to be -- You're Arnie mini sabbatical goal right now is the way I've put -- -- rob mentioned you're still waiting so you -- tell him to catch up with Peter of course after -- after many many years. At ESPN it. You're done now it ESP gamble -- calming home. Off because we all know this is only gonna be working at NASA and you're gonna be working for MLB network and and tell us what I know when you run with a big -- week or so ago. You're still trying to figure out your job description was replica. Mounted a -- -- very MLB network actually sort of sort of figure out some -- but -- I'll be working and MLB network number worker and a summer working. I'm writing rather than worrying about com -- -- play shortstop for the Detroit Tigers from their right I'm writing for mlb.com but I'm. And -- columnist and essays are scored back to belong form writing which are you solid years ago which a lot to do. And they've opened up a lot of things for me as a -- -- should mean it's. They're they're so they're really enthusiastic and they really want it to be. It to be really good and be special and you know if I had a great birdies in twenty years now and built the last few years army. Somebody said you know it. You know what's it like that show that baseball -- changed so much. Because it's -- it's now a Tallet oriented show but -- ravaged completely revolutionized the way that shows on they frankly -- the only person I think that 80s PME. He can walk in. And not a he doesn't do script he just reacts in a national way to show should be I always said -- sure should be like. Four of us sitting in the ballpark watching the school board and having all in all -- oval you know. Blackberries and so forth and seeing all the scores and talking about what's happening across your person I've ever known -- can do that has committed try to do it and a. Are you seeing now because Carl is visiting friends relatives here in the Boston area where he's from -- and I didn't know Africa. But. On the right I mean but I showed you think about how would revolutionize how baseball was Culver and it and that's what baseball as it's like. Hey let's sit around and talk about theirs and never ending supply in each game of topics to talk about and did transform itself over twenty years in it. And maybe it's tied into the immediacy of of twittering and posting things on line that you know it was almost like hyper. Hyperactive way to cover baseball instead of you know when you first got there are many ways what I remember the show of let's talk let's have a conversation about it and -- part of that was bringing in. Players both former players and current players and I don't know if you have any favorite -- It must bring a little odd and awkward even at the beginning where you have these guys who clearly were novices. And they've made experts right away but it must have been a unique unique situation for you to deal with a lot of these guys are coming in out of. Studio and at first it was you know the first five or six years really experimental and you know we're we. We had some good ideas but it it's evolved over the years and in other people but. It's it's hard gaining. A lot of people to. Commit to Bristol and -- and and -- mean it's our and I understand that really good players make a lot of money they don't need. But they've got a really good job in front rockers great to work within a tremendous guy and really smart I mean that's one of the things that people aren't in the often -- chastise me for calling and smart idea. -- he really. You're ruining his image you know he wants -- -- up a little bit too -- -- go to imagine though that you were not going to miss that you know waiting for. Late teams and the -- drive home on the -- played I don't know laugh I mean they're they're a few look at gorgeous like you know what Fenway. -- Fenway all the time -- your base of operations -- for ballpark but. He unite and have to put so many miles an end is so many long days and nights work him in retiring in many ways -- that it is. It really is senate's seven and also us Scott was so I'll do something different I mean. The first forty years I was in the business at three employers the globe Sports Illustrated ESPN's talking about for them to help. I ask -- security gets as many hats on -- so. We're gonna took a break here a minute we wanna talk about hot stove cool music I mean this is the tenth year you talk about you you've just said twenty years -- -- oh my gosh that would quickly. Hot stove cool music -- you know. I was looking through -- some of the material -- win. That just started a couple years ago but this ten years now right it is it's going to serve on a whim -- afford him from The Herald and that. Children in this -- Handley and and Michael cream of the rooster and also got together and you know some people have golf tournaments to raise money -- -- -- rock concert and that personal for me it was thrown together so fast. That we -- definitely your call Carlton Fisk. Which is actually very good band and we had a band from Boston in Vermont -- rich. Lawyer fist fight addressing it definitely I would article if -- -- -- horse but the so it's it's evolved and it's it's become are we doing in the summer to an -- Now this year's event the winner of that January ninth of the house of blues time you'll have your usual cast of friends. You'd feel what you'll be there Bronson Arroyo coming into town boxes coming -- yes and what -- go guy yeah. I remember any great guys languages it's arm Bronson and whose the buckles you -- -- have you made the and recruit clothes and try to get him there. To play -- I remember why did it to the plus it's our policy guitars have become much more prevalent the Red Sox clubhouse oh especially among the starting rotation. Which is Beckett Lester debacles always have a guitar strapped to their back as they want committed -- I picked a hot stove cool music. Probably it's -- and I definitely so as well so it's coming up on January ninth let's say more about that we have our auction item as well because of the hot stove cool music benefits. Off foundation be named later in the many organizations and things about ten organizations so in around Boston people can tell you tells about the level we're at take quick break will be back. And we will open up the phone lines a little bit so you can get on board and talked Peter Gammons about baseball a more on Sports Radio of the media this. Sports Radio network are special guest in studio is Peter Gammons Peter and Ron Borges talking a minute ago -- Peter didn't have his headphones on hear rob. Singing you know -- -- I -- out to be room on the space for a hot stove cool music or rob. Bradford accept. That experience yet you headphones on you would not say that I don't know ought to bring got a terrible because I could ended -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- the -- -- -- -- Let me ask you -- right when that the first time Bronson -- -- -- he -- -- -- up missing and I remember which year -- -- tell -- I -- -- it's baseball players in you know. So love. On the -- up there he was -- of the Kevin large try to get up on stage and she you have to approach against black and capable RC your wall behind him. Ruin the whole. -- that's what I would take it to the next level ruin it now but let me -- visit that's a lot of thing you said -- you had told one story about the Thurman Munson and Carlton Fisk bench should treat -- the first because stove cool music. But in ten years it must be a bunch of stories and thought if you have any others I -- while I think I've heard you tell a few. And view that's what's great about the event not only the president and the moment the great events terrible everything. Clinton having got a ten years now you have this whole legacy don't. Johnny Damon started tickets pulls all -- a personal benefit. And actually one of the funniest guy ever was palpable. And him and he had only been up for a month. He's there he's he's helping out of the auction I think he was actually guide the arm. Pushed the 12000 -- a definite but I'm. He kept on the like the Yankees -- can -- the -- -- -- -- the -- and it was now -- found -- about three years. Let's try I don't know there's no -- I don't rely referenced. You know in the round tables become a mossy event every year in reference the one where. Theo is on hiatus at over the paradise and and someone asked what player would you started he would've been he said Felix Hernandez when it's as I pointed out every time and he went right to Felix Hernandez story. They used that story. But yet I was that was agree Iran to last year's was great with. Who was there at the I'm drawing blank. Tampa Bay offered an opera you I think he's just email me yesterday he's -- -- oh great yeah and I don't think. I'm not sure it I think Doug Glanville is coming out grand if not I just read a just war and for his book. Mom which will be out in May. You will be the best baseball book you read this year while its call. You know. The game from where I stand and it's a series is that it's not his. He's not redoing the columns he -- for the times is just the great stuff he dresses to steroids era and he he writes about. Sort of how people. Never really questioned -- code of I just didn't talk about it there a lot of things in that in this book that are he's absolutely incredible guy I mean -- he says he's coming from that will be -- so. The guest list we have right now you can -- -- -- -- to bring you can't -- artist Carlos Pena not Terry Francona. Yes Theo Epstein out Omar maniacal Marbury so Mets fans if you're listening in you wanna come out to the roundtable has some pointed questions maybe in that -- squeeze them in their pro harmonize well we. What are we want to do bomb. And I've been charitably parent and I hope ready Rivera from the Red Sox contribute as he's really smart guy. But arm more talk a lot about. Cross cultural station how they assimilate players from other countries and I. -- they've done a lot of Asian players and obviously they do regularly with Dominican Venezuelan Colombian players now that this. I've heard phenomenal things about the that the Cuban can't just. America type -- in Cuba for ten days in 99. And I've always believed that it's more difficult to assimilate the Cuban into our society than it is any Asian. Because it's the culture so far removed from what we have very few guys have really gotten. I mean. -- K guys pretty delta -- smart blue but I know he spoke perfect -- -- his editors here. And -- Hernandez always -- -- a lot of just completely got lost and people say -- again this example because unveiled might Bard could from buster Olney several million Cubans so suspicious and always say buster. One that we -- driver around Havana after a playoff game. And we -- a guy from ABC in and going down the street. And there's a long line of people going down street. I said well what's that it's 1030 at night she should -- cold stretch once you get extra food stamps -- extra money if you tell. -- a new neighbors went and answers to how could have been -- peace if you if you can have to be suspicious of your neighbors in Cuba talking -- these suspicions -- -- in America. Now so you've heard good regress opposing players he's the shortstop the Red Sox signed to play in the Arizona Fall League. Obviously weren't says thought defensively. When the bass pro what else have you heard about. Well rob O'Leary who -- was of mightily coordinator told me that the -- he showed up in Fort Myers he walked around everybody on the staff should cans. And he'll look I know what I need to learn I mean he'd already learned some English and there's really open to the destruction and and Allard Baird spends some time but in the narrow zone and sent out pictures can hit too I mean by. On. Just that he is a really good learner. Which usually -- -- I mean now with the Dominican kids. So many of those agents take him out of school at 1011 years old and all they do is work out they don't actually play games -- just worked out. And so we by not going to school it's really hard they never learn how to learn and to get them over here is really tough. -- acute amount of money being spent possible players. Without having good programs and I'm just amazed at the money that. Some of the teams like Pittsburgh in places like out of thrown around I hope that their programs are really good because most kids -- really flounder for awhile. But that you some our current events of course here in Red Sox Nation and the names that have been bouncing around Jason day Mike Cameron John lacked the my goal let's start -- Jason Bay and it. Any chance whatsoever that he ends up with a Red Sox in any capacity or is he destined for queens which doesn't seem to be. I think somebody anybody in -- the heading into -- The sad part of this news that -- they'll sometimes there's so much competition between agents. That the players become Poland and I think in Jason's case. We're we're really easy take four times fifteen in July. Which I thought action at the time was a little bit high as an offer this clue about such -- wanna get him signed him out away. And while the Mets offer is for the 65 is sold back loaded. I was told by people -- city's far less so when the Red Sox -- -- in present -- guy. And he obviously has one play there and they're really scared about having him play -- a -- for four years city field -- and it's really a shame it's worked out this way but -- known. If -- I don't see any way. -- they're gonna add anybody else here to prepare them they're not gonna global what recounts are gonna hold some money back. Sign. Or acquire contract in July whatever they need. So it's it's too bad I mean nine. I hit EI mean I know he wanted to go to a free agent route but at the same time. He really found a home here YouTube I wonder about now all of -- mean. Cup Boris is brilliant but I'm not sure about holiday's got anything. Comparable to them five times sixteen point five and the Red Sox offered the winter meetings film. I don't think he's gonna get to Mark Teixeira contract. Were you surprised. Them. That the Red Sox committed to Mike Cameron so early. In other words they make the offered -- Bae installed there and clearly wasn't what Joe urban wanted. But then they say okay you know I think Joe or ring did his media tour on -- Saturday. And then on Monday Mike Cameron signed you surprise is that okay you know what we're -- Mike Cameron were told him he's the starter and that's why Jason based on how the pitcher. Well I think they they basically had spent com. Five months. Home where Jason Bay Jordan and it is okay fidgety marketable it's been five months we're gonna move on and that bat. The night before they did Cameron they they'd like to Boris and I had a five times sixteen point five and he said you know it has to be Mark Teixeira contracts so they moved on I had no. Defense has been the focus of this off season and clearly they went from. If you. Go to baseball prospectus and believe in those defensive equivalency ratings and so forth they they were the second worst offensive team in baseball watching them I would say they probably -- -- -- know how are they if they configure the outfield it's gonna be very good. I know they like to find one more right handed hitting outfielder but. And the left side of the infield theoretically will be better and I. And being. It'll be very interesting see I'm out we're saying off a year my theory is to wanna play Ellsbury in left field as much as possible. And because I thought his improvement. Getting to balls you know inside I thought he started to make quantum leap as a as an offensive player to -- -- word not Grady Sizemore but. Not not far from -- -- you'd be better offensive player Curtis Granderson. Prince try to get better play offensive purge granderson. I remember in that -- -- 8485. Win Yankees are Rickey Henderson and Traber DA's. Sort of story element and in beautiful downtown where him and he's set to me. The beating you take these steal 7200 basis a year. -- cred now with Ricky UN and bad so hard headfirst these beating up his hands legs he should just really hard to play center field. And 100 times a year. And he said you know I should. I sort after Barry Bonds told the same thing that's why he wasn't playing center field in Pittsburgh is playing left field. I think. Ellsbury who really wants to be a great offensive player. And Boris. Is smart enough to know that. -- gold glove is not gonna go to arbitration to weigh it down hitting 300 -- eighty based great offensive players and it. Straw I think he'll be open to he played left field mechanically. -- play. Ellsbury in left field. Eighty to a hundred games a year rest is like a little bit and maybe it'll keep him fresher so it. He can easily be pitched Els varies so he doesn't feel insulted early also demotion golf consider fill the left field the Red Sox conceding him. All were helping you become a better offensive player -- May make him throw up the Rickey Henderson examine -- wanting go back defied the quotes from when he idea. Again I think that you know what things that you know people have all have their opinions about Boris he's tough agent but. He won't work with teams if he thinks is right -- mean like most farm director for trade he's the best agent because. It's in his addressed and the club's best interest to have his client succeed him so he'll cooperate when it comes to rest up from like to hear revolver prayers. And he made. Made Oliver prayers go to Arizona and and get to work to lose weight and get in shape and I think you'll understand that when -- I think you'll see that a boy he can make. Now he might make seven million dollars next year in arbitration. Well I remember a story in regards -- that guy you know very -- score after he signed his initial deal with the Red Sox right after. Two year deal. Boris says to him okay now we get serious. You're going out to buy facility you know work out with a Steve Rogers dragged him. And we're gonna keep your legs in shape for these two years to set yourself up because your legs -- -- that the gonna get you that next contract as your utility guy. And he takes Milloy says okay this what you should do but he puts his people in charge of -- make sure he doesn't. In that other it's pretty pretty EI -- RC he's very interested in that that. Or more agents are realizing that okay you know part of irresponsibility got two teams is to get guys in facilities in and get them in shape by -- A couple of guys like terrible Vernon Wells is doing Carl Crawford and at their training series a lot of guys go to. After his performance by the way well for Mike Roberts is runs a baseball marred. API. Tormented dice k.'s an unbelievable sure they're really working hard he should be. Embarrassed last summer I said you know what. I think I also like. His criticizing the Red Sox was like his way of saving face in Japan. Ernie says he's in tremendous shape so let me go back -- -- The Hewitt said about. The last days leading into Mike Cameron the -- in the country -- Mike Cameron's they went to Roy how I'm sorry Matt Holliday. And offered that deal compare bowl to the Gilead to John Lackey correct me. So in their eyes in your estimation which one did they want because they give the contract a Lackey was it okay if Matt Holliday takes his deal. He's gonna be our guy but since he didn't take it lackeys next in line. I think they look at it and said you know what it's going to be harder. To get it big time for -- once. They knew that the holiday things gonna drag out into the middle of January. I I I think that they said you know what it's gonna be easier to find here on the market in June July it is to get a Frontline pitcher. And so that's where they where we're lucky because I don't think they ever thought Lackey was at a restaurant pitching in Washington. I didn't a whole thing by his wife. And you're the -- UN -- okay I don't I don't know. Yeah -- did their research somewhere we got a quick break just a very quick break or talk to computer game -- talk more about hot stove cool music we have plenty of other questions to get to and your questions on the phone lines in just a little bit as well on Sports Radio WB yeah. I don't know if you -- requested -- hot stove cool music the event January ninth -- the house of blues and rob Bradford in the house until almost seemed born to run by Bruce Springsteen or drop. I don't short examines. Peter Gibbons -- it's the HS CM all stars right cause stove cool musical stars who's in the band this it saved -- grew. Same group of and build Janet serve and Buffalo Tom was Tom phenomenal. Honest shot just from from -- isles. And -- trying to convince. IRL Cooper which would be idea on workers -- record of one of his songs. And then Earl Cooper for all of us were oldest. He actually made -- and mean there is an electoral expelled from Bob Dylan to wear his organ line in there and that. They started blues project a lot of great -- and he he teaches here Boston. -- -- -- You're right and I it is or jam session before the ninth or you just -- up on the wall on -- well well well not nice practical here that's what we need to be you know say what -- -- present them. Perfect for negative if you have never been in the house blew -- fastest. Or something like that it's just going to be asked while the acoustics her for -- again I may really it's it's very much like took the one all by the Los Angels and it. And I've seen a couple of shows -- in the sounds phenomenal. So -- on on January ninth at the house of blues. Hot stove cool music. The foundation be named later in the -- it benefits many groups including city year room to grow on from little Wanderers. I'm Michael Valiante seeing any Sox fan -- talked about UH alarms there's another one out of a lack showed up mr. O'Malley hot stove cool music dot org. And all the details are -- Back to a couple of questions Michael. -- it just seems. Universally he's locked Andy's looked at as one of the great gentleman in baseball. And it's not a personal thing -- I'm sure there's nothing personal in this business of baseball I know but. After awhile even Michael's got a -- realize you know deny deny it somebody's dog here or somewhere along the line because every year there seems to be no story this time it's we're giving you awaits Texas and and that came apart with. What is the relationship therein and what does the future for my a lot Arctic. I don't Bob rob I'm having trouble understanding at all. And I didn't like get frustrated and I -- Cheney did say okay now. I Sam Levinson is say he's probably best that he get -- okay that's understandable. But at the same time. I'm Mike wants to play fulltime I understand that entirely and I you know give them. I know I've talked to Mike run -- after you've been down there to -- and you know you have to believe. Full off season. On rehab. Would help on the amateur rather the same thing on the call in my craft of the first the year last year he was really war. About being ready for spring training. When. Not Terry Francona is great line you know Helm we don't need -- for the Boston College hit it -- but it. But. I don't know how this all works out really don't mean it would give them. We've been looking for a right handed hitting outfielder they may not do that now if he's come back numbers they wanna give. Casey Kotchman every chance I I must say I a year ago. In spring training ideal thing off on espn.com -- or five guys of -- -- breakout season -- -- one. If you're what one of my favorites just your troops and they're looking at players young players that come up is. They have more walks are more extra base hits and strikeouts. And for on the Major League level in the last fifty years -- only eleven players Pedroia and pujols for two with a bunt -- Their head up Kotchman his numbers were unbelievable in the minor leagues and it's such a it it's such a predictor of guys being really good hitters and actually he's not that far from in the -- on a Major League level. For the except for the time he would -- he was at 330 something and Anaheim in 2008 to being. And you struggle after that and then he didn't play much here but. He's a great first baseman and now I get the impression cheater really wants to play Francona seems long gave us -- on -- I can see him really odd sort of Mickey Hatcher about a lot in the Angels hitting coach during the playoffs. He said you know what she gets. He can just relax. Ballpark as it is he's made four I mean he's Nick Johnson would defensive skills. And so will be interesting to see what happens with him. Yeah I think that the blood people look at him and so refusal for eleven pinch hitting and what -- what they saw that nothing really impressed. But you're right there -- a reason he's involvement Teixeira trade and and he does have now especially defensively but going back the wall. -- one of these things where I don't know if you agree with this but -- -- clear cut -- the Red Sox probably. Don't believe as much as Michael believes that he's going to be a batter more mobile player and that's completely subjective. I mean you just never know who gets hurt what happens. Arm and over the years he came over from the morals. And people saying. Ratings -- saying he's done he's lost his bad memories really struggled the first half. And arm there'll they ask for NE SP and is it true that on Michael has done. And there it obviously hedge for -- -- -- I talked a lot to appear -- you know and two Eagles one of them. Let's give him time to swing is a little bit complicated and getting his timing back of source for getting his confidence back you know what we'll just see what happens. -- turned out that he played great for and so. And -- playing first third being a right handed DH maybe ends up being an important part of the team Bruno ploy. Gets a question Eric was asking yesterday and today was. If the of the thumb injury as -- Maloney pointed out isn't dramatic cute it's -- something that you people come back from all time it's not that huge huge deal. So if that's the case. Widest Texas blow this up when they would all only have to pay three million doesn't come down to. While we're gonna give up max for Maris who view of the great line about the lead -- all -- Venezuela but also -- eat chicken -- that's. I just gonna start report an email from some there was the -- in the Venezuelan recently at. I don't think Max Ramirez is that he lost the wrestler and a nation all the -- so why -- -- if if it if it's -- that thumb injury -- and he's not the -- reason -- in the -- were -- getting cold -- about -- -- I should get cold feet and having to spend seven million or. Nine awarding dollar electorate really and that's -- I don't see I don't McGwire. Or derby and I think -- being a little silly here they do because. He has to be a little bit better in terms of the hip I mean. Alex Rodriguez is operation was really minor and it can't be compared holes but Chase Utley was. I mean. Actually drove five best players in nationally -- He was not quite the same defensive player this year where the year. -- after having hip operation I'm sure he will be this year will be the same guy again I think it does take some comment. And I didn't even understand. That. These operations in exist a dozen years ago and -- started in Europe and it's this is a very new technology. And you know Mike's a little bit older and a little bit different body type than that Utley but. It's it's up and missed its -- I have to believe he will be back I thought it was tough -- the in the playoffs. The current move at all I understand that but he also complain everyday for. Peter you talked a moment ago about Jacoby Ellsbury and how it makes sense in many ways for him to total left field and and how likely out for him. Where is Mike Cameron now in his Major League career he's someone who's obviously we heard Terry Francona talked about it someone's always been in good shape and he's played gold glove caliber. Our outfield you know by them the first reaction I had was while Mike Cameron's gonna get paid that much for two years but maybe the Red Sox and other teams in baseball. See him as someone who can still perform at a pretty high level what can Sox fans expecting your opinion Mike Cameron and with the Red Sox. I think -- great deal of energy now he is a really good defender and order worries me is the he's so fearless. Arm all the all the things that chart that the era. Shut out in Fenway Park -- worry about him running in the bullpen or something but. Articulate 45 mormons they'll steal 20/20 five basis and be really good after I mean he's he is in great shape he's completely fearless are a strikeout lines which. Probably mean to be -- probably hit 1732. In the order. Hits left handed pitching. Has in the past pretty well he's a guy that good teams -- -- -- Yankees try to trade Melky Cabrera for. And the Brewers. The year before and the Brewers change your mind China itself. They're bigger player I -- I'm. It is worse than those years it make if you -- Florida they -- they have Kotchman around. They have a couple guys of people love for years are all the sudden -- -- Well at breaks sharply David Ortiz or even -- large and growing here then they'll order to pretty good players in terms of depth. -- do well where do you see the -- -- situation. I don't think -- -- and think about trading until July and think he found when he went after -- -- -- when he was with the all those years usual Red Sox. They didn't do deals based on what they thought the public or how the public react as we know they're trading Nomar news mountains. They do what they told investors that team. They have to think about selling tickets as Cheney and Adrian Gonzales is from there he's a Mexican American he's the most. Marketable player they have. They this is a new ownership they can't afford their first move the trading their most important player now. If there. Point five games out on July 1 that may be different story -- and it no no problem. That he has to making trades as they played really well the last two months. I'll have -- is likened it to a college basketball game wear teams down forty points they rallied to lose by tens reverend wiley played great the last ten minutes but actually. They're gonna be battles or by thirty that I thought -- play that team -- my guess is that's what the Padres will be -- And they do have to get much more athletic inning after they're playing blanks left fielders going to be a problem but. Mom. I don't think that he'll even think about for awhile leaderboard this next season -- and see where they're at and then talk humane. I was target -- couple days ago when he said this is amazed reading some of the names that they supposedly exchanged. They had you know I mean. Season. Padres now have the Red Sox assistant general manager and their scouting director. They know it to -- Casey Kotchman Michael Ball. I don't have a good they know what's hidden away and they know what what start to end and that brings me to the next question how is the relationship going to be between those two front offices to UC. Any. Discomfort or is that going to be a -- that -- you don't they know all the secrets and and they know also it's gonna be more up front rocket to be many games play. I don't have just come for for awhile because of Red Sox did not want Jason ago yeah. And he'd -- they had changed so his job description and he decided to stay in and change is my -- I have for the understand about going home to San Diego it's it is promotion. Also understand the Red Sox. I mean as good as on the -- audio is is nobody's going to be -- it's -- director Jason did a great job for them and managing scouts is very -- coach -- now. But. I think now it's all worked out in its. Main. It's a little bit different but -- Kennedy and Theo Epstein did get to come home -- are also so it's. And that our organization is so deep and they look at sometimes it's okay we lost. Are we lost Josh Byrnes who lost pewter report now we've lost two more really good guys -- bench -- I think will be on anybody's. Shortlist for the next group of gentlemen -- have my occasional beer within a year too so you know they they don't -- have too much drain on the organization. 6177790850. Toll free 8885250850. We will open up the phone lines if you have a question for Peter Gammons hot stove cool music coming -- January ninth at -- house of blues will continue along on Sports Radio W media yeah. Yeah sports radio networks. Eric -- rob Bradford in for dale and holly are special guest in studio a.'s Peter Gammons soon to be of NASA in. MLB network. Mlb.com. Are coming to games you. Oh -- you you are right. What -- -- played well he did make a college basketball -- by yellow of the theater you have an open invitation at the minor league games my gosh just sit back and listen you for three hours ago and I have blocked field. Off hot stove cool music. On January ninth usually this time a year Peter -- curse people out there looking greatly Christmas gift to purchase chasing Steinbrenner -- are trying to hurt because it's it's an affordable gift I. Very very afar Bo may or may I suggest tickets the hot stove cool music be great does stocking stuffer to check things out a house of blues and it's for great cause. As well not Peter did give his blessing that we can go to the phones this your last chance Estes Park factors are. Wanna get -- why write anybody off the traffic stories that's what one last question. -- maybe some -- -- this SI apologize but. Were you surprised that they went five years on Lackey and how do you think this effects the back situation. I was surprised mom. Now I understand. One of the things that they really felt about lacking in the last year and a half he really -- Really developed feel you know changing speeds are logged a lot better than he used to used to be kind of a -- -- I think it's gonna make it difficult -- in. And you know how. RAI can come up with okay Pickett's career ERA of Boston's 45 last two post seasons is. By eighteen runs in thirty innings blah blah -- The staff views Josh Beckett as captain of the pitching staff mayonnaise -- view him is like the mob rule model guy that. He's a leader he cares about what a team wins or loses audit that's going to be it -- negotiation I do think that they'll make every effort to keep. Rated because. If he has any kind of Josh Beckett nearly he's had it starts at five years there was a debate before whether. Would they go five years and Josh Beckett but now I would imagine that you have no choice because lackeys contract and I think that that's. Over provide for some interesting association. Bench on the data was here yesterday. It. It makes sense for Beckett to feel like it's a win win you know what whether works over the Red Sox -- the fact that Halladay has found a home in Philadelphia Cliff Lee. We don't know what the future holds for him but Beckett is going to emerge as the top guy in the free agent market next year you know he's gonna get he's going to paid handsomely no matter what. -- -- I mean. My guess is closely goals on the market again by. He should be either number one guy after Lee and and self made -- he has a really good year. You know in fairness I would say in LOK I understand. You know part of his reputation what's -- -- great October pitcher and he hasn't been a good October pitcher the last two years. There's also been hurt me and then now okay like AJ Burnett he has a history of some injuries but the same time. He comes back it is helping for a whole year puts up 33 starts. Doesn't have a hole a shoulder problem or hip prop whatever and different things you said. -- you know. -- my mind is reasonably -- won't win eighteen to twenty games and as we've seen -- like -- that that's that's 161718. Million dollars a year who did you like winning mentality trade. Where it was there winner. Arm. I thought. I thought Seattle did really well because they -- big build that team up Jackson's -- -- -- -- defense. I also I'd I'd love holiday pitching in and talked to Jayson stark I don't remember the numbers but he had some great numbers on. What -- Blue Jays have been the last two years. Without Roy -- starting and it's just incredible women are like -- I have 430 winning percentage team and in Philadelphia. With pretty good defense. Team that scores a lot of runs and a team is really fun to play for criminals. That team is. It's crazy it they're really fun I'd -- -- in the National League -- that helps say that's. -- I -- big howdy -- I. It's hard not to like you Guzman most likeable people and I know there have been some. Ozzie Guillen felt it was a nationally pitcher that he needed wasn't tough but it backed out drove him on the oracle we did have some. Shoulder problems he never said anything is seldom talked about what that last it when you with the Yankees but. I know let's talk for they wanted to before. You know but the Wagner signing. Yourself. Not all be very interesting to see two I had I -- What I am impressed by the Yankees is by bringing in granderson Vasquez had gone out. Add to Rivera and Jeter they've added incredible people and this open won't back is that that character of the team I think is. These -- has really evolved. There ally and to me Melky Cabrera tonight's fourth outfielder but. I also understand the Liberty Mutual work the liberty broadcasting owns the Braves vigorous Soriano Vasquez. I just take and I believe it's sixteen million dollars off their payrolls so that was what a deal wasn't about. Game present read today on. And LB trade rumors dot com that. It 'cause it was toward Rick written yesterday say we're gonna get a major bad turns of Detroit lost yeah. Studio or. Five years ago I was right. All right to the phones in if you wanna -- 85850. We have received one -- -- -- I think Peter should play third base next year for the Sox -- out don't take this wrong way I think he arranges a little limited -- real Americans and that lets us I was Stephen Franklin Steve natural -- -- on WB EI. -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't hear the name Miguel Cabrera coming at all out -- -- that's even feasible option. Well the question would be has he iron things out and Detroit's are they gonna be able to move forward there. I think a whole lot depends on how well the Tigers play for the first couple of months -- It's a different situation because the owners there. It's loves this city needs watched it dot. And he doesn't really care about how she loses almost casinos it's not just the pizza it's he's got casinos around Detroit. There mean there was a lot of talk about fire sale Detroit -- -- -- we call -- to beat fire sale then orders not allowing that. -- If they -- off to a bad start. And I can be able to move dontrelle Wilson not to be able move -- all the pitchers if there are twelve games out. On June 15. I cutesy Cabrera getting moved and I could see that. I Agassi the Red Sox being very interesting he's got a huge contract that is also monster bat and just opened -- third. No reservations for him coming to Boston for anything on -- off the field. Mom. Auditor or is gonna have an off the field issues for Miguel Ortiz or are you running for office nobody denies a great kid just he gets in of these. These issues. My mom there are a lot of people that were with the Marlins. That portrays that Miguel Cabrera. We're nowhere near the problem doctor will. Tell. There and John Charles of great guy but I mean that. The Wallace didn't really I mean -- there or couple times when he was confronted by other players wary of where he lapsed. But they really liked him. They traded him because they got. Cameron Maybin and Andrew -- Thank you goings on -- you libido -- to -- me if you need to know and I thought I I feel bad because I guess -- questions in good. Well I'll do -- -- the break and that's what we've been doing a lot of Bob in the car Europe next Bob. -- Bob. Out there glad Bob you know Peter Gammons. -- on -- course and while it's all -- Upon. I like the Red Sox you know Red Sox and -- like a lot of they start pitching like you know. But -- principal out because it only because. On base percentage it's great that it works great regular and post season in. Yoga quality pitching. If you get a lot of walked. One -- -- a bad day. Unit so. The scene that is there been any talk about that and made at least well is he really getting. I've mostly Terry and I can't win in the post season without. I reminds me of -- and I -- -- I am very happy San working rhythm again in 2002. Before every. Giants Angels and Barry biologist from an art we were electoral man sitting on the bench -- argue all the time. And I mean whatever you think Barry Bonds. He's up there with Ted Williams is more will most interesting people talking -- -- -- Hear about on base percentage are reluctant to -- Harold a play were bring it up at right are terrible hitter -- is that it. -- -- changes everything because -- pitch selection wears down a minimum on this long thing. So I mean I understand entirely and I do you really believe in and -- it's really hard to win with guys that. There were a team that has a 315 on base percentage -- drive me crazy that the Giants would have. Certain guys -- first and second is like Iran yeah I understand if ticket be overdone but I mean. I just go back marijuana first games Kevin you must have a place. And seemed back where were my seats -- back home plate he was facing Roy Halladay and he had this incredible bat. Where he got down all into filed off -- couple pitches for a couple just. Nasty filthy slider just off the blackened. And ended up getting a walk and Talladega it's so kicked off with 212 out and and once. Remember who was next hit ball -- -- -- -- two runs scored they've they're tied at 22. And it. Winding out of practice what makes the Yankees so great and the Red Sox need to get back -- -- -- away I think we go away for a little -- night. Look this up when they got the recently. Tennis is counting Kotchman by. They're five of the top eighteen. Pitches per baptized in the American -- With the addition of school -- that's. I think that that changes -- office will be I'm not sure about how -- all. They hit 3136. More home runs has lasted an aged when they won the World Series in 2007. You brought up scooter -- to make the point of when people attempts Kudrow and Gonzales and that even a ball hit 251 walked Clint didn't obscure and on base more. But it your eyes is what the scooter or bring to the table and is it one of these things where people in Boston are under valuing him not not the team but the fan speak says hey -- this one year or is this guy going to be. What few tickets three years I mean he's -- -- a consistent improvement. -- did a pretty -- on -- -- very smart -- There was a time last summer now he had that -- problem -- fresh flashy items which supposedly. Secure the last week of the season but arm. I was talking affront to my from a team -- is giving me all of a very complex defensive metrics. And he should only find -- far away the best defensive shortstop in baseball -- could grow our. Down and that led by the end of the season it was once again Jack Wilson. On. And -- he's he's a good -- a good two year bridge. To Iglesias or. On the bar whoever's gonna end up playing first I thought I shouldn't say we're bridge you -- -- -- -- -- that every year he's been near Burnett and or course of the situation -- Doc went up this year that I only only if your cross and it's open now can imagine back -- minute with Peter Gammons -- with the system. Sports Radio network unfortunately we have the microphones off during the break is that's when the great stories come out from Peter yeah. They're all good and we we thank Peter for joining us again hot stove cool music. The event and it's truly an all day event when you think about the round tables it's scheduled to be what two and a half hours or so three hours and Terry Francona Theo Epstein. Peter will be on that panel a couple of other people that he mentioned before the show is odd that night 7 PM house of blues. Foundation to be named later of course the beneficiary in that benefits many groups. A Michael Mallory will be there as the NC Kay Hanley performing -- lose that's still laws are good -- there isn't a state radio radio. And the HS CM all stars nice -- -- -- actual stats are real early false advertising because I am not a star but well I mean you can call yourself what I want you know it's all the perception but. We appreciate you coming in were also raising money for -- foundation be named later on to be a producer for dale -- on the dale and Holley show with 61793. -- they've got it just committed torment -- -- -- is 6179311850. If you wanna call from yourself on your way out here the -- right now at 500 dollars so while we say tickets hot stove cool music. Would make a nice Christmas -- -- -- -- make him. As if to and a lot of people lined up here to ask questions and will jot down some of the ones that are waiting who haven't been able to get through Peter and we also a ton of emails. And -- graciously. The route and had base he said that. He will respond to these questions will tape -- will put it up on the site and with the information for the hot stove cool music. Anything to help out that causes obviously great thing in and another great thing is just. Be able to hear you it's in his quest to could stay here for four hours. Will be on for hours and and just talk baseball's been tossed off faxes are far appreciated most importantly enjoy a nice quiet Christmas even baseball slows down a little bit at Christmas time. I'll be interesting to see how many. MLB trade rumors dot com things come over -- I think during the day is the best you -- turn off your photo on Christmas morning Peter c'mon do our odd. I wrote sabbatical for a day you could just enjoyable we look forward to seeing a lot more view we we know your picture monitored baseball's reasonable seem much more view one message and and MLB network which I congressional report and I actually once played in Portland are played in the suburb called pine tree league. By for the Ramon squirrels ones were around -- -- -- how we played there were held blocked field hours I had -- actually -- the Dave Littlefield catches an eighteen year old in the Portland twice neutral you're up there in April the last few shovel off the field to play baseball -- Peter thanks for coming in thanks for a lot of tears came in here with this on Sports Radio WEEI.

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