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Tue, 15 Dec 2009|

Gordon joins D&C to talk about the moves the Red Sox made yesterday and if anything more is coming

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Page is the ball on to talk a little baseball our good friend from ESPN boston.com. Gordon needs -- while over the television all the web sites. Nice job how are you today.

You know what it Dade ballots for -- ESPN to bring me down to Bristol or my. Quote orientation yeah yeah indeed.

Let's blame an on Steve Phillips results assault all the Allen to Dallas -- Meetings in those would be called diversity to the caller we can't -- great city yeah that's that he training table this -- Gordon we began the program this morning at 6 o'clock by practicing the Red -- month for going forward for 2010. And that -- to -- the following three things. Defense defense defense pitching pitching pitching and run prevention run prevention. Run prevention is that the new battle cry in just Boston or cross baseball to some extent.

While I mean eight I think that it you guys are just talking about TDs with that I -- I I think. The impact of -- the you know cleaned up. -- at a -- spot -- is bringing in the game back -- more but. A pitching in in defense oriented. There isn't but I mean there aren't. May have gotten. Way too far the other way here in this -- deal with what I quite shocking. Is that it's so a lot of character. Repeal it is particularly in the Red Sox. -- in that so many years -- so much money and anytime. To me represents a tremendous risk physically and we're talking about a -- missed the first six weeks. A each of the last two seasons once with triceps and united. In points with inflammation in his elbow. I mean you look today that the history of pitchers have gotten five years deals or more. In the last forty years not a pretty picture.

You yet you put that up this morning in your -- cordon and -- thought of this deal is heading into what is seventh. Season as general manager. This is the first free agent pitchers signed to deal of more than three years excluding of course Daisuke but that's we all know that story has different. What makes in the -- what made John Lackey special.

Well but that's a that's a good question I mean I think there a couple of things here at the plight wanted. In this is purely speculative on my part but I'm wondering if the Red Sox. Have some reason to believe. That they are not going to be the key aspect it after next season you know whether they've gotten indications. I've deleted it he wants to go back to access or or that the dollars and it is going to be too much -- wanna invest the dollars in hand. Which I don't understand I mean if -- the dictated for which are obligated to judge packet over -- arm Lackey. That's one thing so so so Lackey is using hedge against packet leaving. On the other thing isn't it gives them some flexibility if they decide. Optimal buckles and in the deal that I think animal sparkles and deal last year. For Halladay certainly and and yeah I know they wouldn't get it back now. If they if they -- buckled straight to San -- effort for Adrian Gonzales but I I was really surprised by this.

Will they will they move -- will there be another shoe to fall here.

I I think it will try I I think there's going to be hammered nine on that employer. Virtually daily between now and the starts. And and there's no reason for -- and -- to Russia on this thing he can sit back in and let the price effective iron -- higher in. He's got a very affordable. Top player -- Gonzales for the next two years there's no. There's no one. High pressure on jet to get anything done here I think the Red Sox have the money to make. One other people in and whether it's it's exciting Adrian Beltre. -- to deal with sports in those kind. On track that's the agents -- less formal written in -- Nick Johnson played first base symbol duke -- but but they're gonna make at least one more.

Gordon if we hello squirt gun to your head and Matt -- you predicted today. And by the way the Michael whole deal has yet to be completed there are some issues about Obama may be -- possible bomb surgery -- the Red Sox starting third baseman on opening -- against the Yankees.

You know and I'll say I'll say yeah. Revenue. I I don't think you're in the end I don't think we gonna wait on on sports for Beltre all Bolton. He he could be that's not -- Look at the landscape in particular where I would think Seattle now out on Beltre -- there aren't too many landing spot for him so alive. It likely that heck -- a little bit I think you list with with Beltre had as strong effect on.

And there's no chance they bring Mike lol back that make some other deal -- this doesn't go through because it be toxic would it not.

I I can't see it app. Guys I really care if it would be really a situation. You know Hamachi. It trouble -- last year yeah you know -- speculation. You know he'd been taken I wrote this year when -- some in the to mimic in a week ago. That yet even given it. Any thought at on any sleep over it but you know we lose sleep over it now and into -- would be it. Would be --

The Rangers are talking first base and DH so that begs the question does Michael all want this deal to be next or not.

No right. You know I would think that there are -- he's prepared to move on nine you know what went to team make it clear they don't want I don't think Mike is. These planes they bought and at any clots. That's not a bad situation for it and you know it's helped me. Ron Washington will will certainly. Were committed admit that they're -- my -- which was partly. Yet gold glove third baseman for the Rangers last -- you look at his defensive metrics were opposite that is as Walton and lol as an excuse.

Did you know that the biggest problem they had was left field defense Kazaa -- wasn't aware of that and now they have a lock down defender in left field. Gordon there'll says.

Yeah well you know it's. Goes after the date of of winning epic gold glove defender in left field neighbor buried.

Right from green well and rice -- yeah.

Yeah its its. You know it to -- it be interesting to see if it's what they view it is moved Ellsbury left. And and like camera -- although like I think what would be more likely use media. Cameron now with two.

Which means Cameron plays about once or twice a week of these play only gets lefties.

You know that that that's right.

And not -- when they sign up from a state million a year is that right so here's.

memories and so. And I mean he is he has city 88 o'clock defenders of -- and I Ellsbury. They're -- been talk about movement out bird left field in the past simply because moves so while laterally. When I noticed he -- your buddy bill. Which shocked by this one in in noted that. -- represented huge change for the red -- investments. Those kind years in this kind of money in -- I'm just not sure. -- Guys if you look at his numbers against the Yankees. Five and 74 point 66 career -- and in in that the combined that with what he was against the red rock. 3875. And a quarter to five in nearly six ERA in in Fenway. This is an exactly guy well which shut down. --

Do they assumed talking about the Red Sox that by changing from one uniformed the other he'll suddenly like Fenway Park because famously looked into the -- and Cameron -- I hate this bully and placed. As he as he gave up a home run a couple years ago at Fenway Park will -- now love it Gordon.

You know it David Wells was another gadget stated that way he made his accommodate and so so. You know I don't think you hear anything but positive. From lack you know they'll point to to -- His strong performances. In the last couple of -- And way as a sign it you know whatever -- and ways that that that eight.

It did it would be an ego problem here because -- three guys we asked earlier who's the opening day starter. Who's the number one starter in the in the playoffs this three guys could be any of the three.

Now right in you know they're back in and and Beckett from. My understanding -- our old Texas buddies so so -- You know I think you're gonna get along fine in in you know back it is really only two. Real leader on that -- that you know -- Just by example that happen now -- takes the ball under under any circumstances. -- Jon Lester my opening day starter if you gonna open the playoffs with a you've got to open this season.

Hi Pedro would hate to be on the -- yeah ultimately it is its right interpret it your best racing. He can be the fifth starter. A Gordon. You sound like you think that -- could happen might happen if you ever heard any rumors about Miguel Cabrera ending up here.

Now in in fact in in. As his name being discussed here and meeting in Milton Bradley's name was discussed at least for thirty -- I can't see it happening you know John Henry thousand you know they're they're an action that would in the floor -- days. You know and it was a guy who signed up -- on. You know investing big -- on them to sign out of Venezuela initially. When I just think date they have issues with. You know -- reminded the streaking incident at the end of the season but you know this guy. Gonna be fighting is -- in way to the end of the art that -- he'd be an issue and at. That kind of money locked in the -- for as long as the Packers do. Now like it's happening.

Voice it will affect dad to this point and that's easy when -- young tell me how -- Gabon now. I think it's worth the job of Gordon and no talk about the Red Sox is a prohibitive best starting staff in baseball it first -- is this Philadelphia deal official yet -- Roy Halladay. And if Seattle gets Cliff Lee -- to put the Mariners in the conversation with a red susser Cliff Lee and Felix Hernandez's -- 12.

Yeah I mean that that's gonna want to go to minded baseball like they although I imagine that in in you know it raises the question -- the -- He could've made a deal. A separate deal for ballot why not call for all. Next year -- and have Halladay lead. In animals. In your rotation at least for a year try to resize. Cliff leap beyond next season because I mean they're. They could've made this deal. For Halladay appears to me without without giving up. With late so. It's. You know that -- it as as part of right left 12 -- Felix Hernandez in and Cliff Lee go along way in in in in this landscape.

Does lead to the Seattle help or hurt Jason Bay's chances of ending up there.

Yeah I don't see it I think Jason day. It is it is not about one team right now and that team -- view LaGuardia right -- I think he could end up with the with the Mets in that's not an ideal fit palace and mean. That ball park is that Yellowstone park dimensions in a -- left field in view to patrol so. Not an ideal match in my view.

I read some word today that the Yankees are starting to sniff around Jason Bay is that just what they do rule or is that. Keen interest.

Well I think. I think if it's what they do one. I'd still expect them to make the plate from Matt Holliday. That ignited I think the -- that's why. In my -- into the Red Sox make it like from Matt Holliday because they figured they jump in on holiday it would be Teixeira all the organs. In particularly would -- it in which the Yankees. -- report let's sign in left field in Yankee Stadium as well and you know it department to make going to be which right now or. For holiday but -- I can guarantees that. Scott courses on the board of Brian Cashman and you know -- Easier for you guys I mean this is this is what saint louis' opera will will you view will you view last chance to top it.

He is Gordon needs from ESPN ESPN boston.com. Espn.com. Gordon always appreciate talkin' baseball with the let's look up again before we get down the picnic table spring training we'll -- on wartime. Event sort of arrangement doesn't -- Obama AT&T hotline AT&T your world delivered.

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