Fri, 20 Nov 2009|
Leigh Bodden joins The Big Show to discuss last weeks loss to the Colts, Belichick's controversial 4th and 2 call and this weeks match-up with the Jets.
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Let's talk to one of the defense of players who were out in the field the last week it will be outfield. -- Sunday against the jets Lee Boggs joins us live on the phone like right now -- I don't today.
On or anger against bill that gets sick all the stock. Are not now. What are not opt out I -- it it up but first -- the first they let. It at various sort yet.
Are there must ask you this question because I know that the Jerod Mayo came out yesterday and and he had some very strong comments about this. There are a lot of people that right now or questioning. The state of the defense and how you guys -- whether you guys felt. That the coaching staff was not putting enough faith in you by making that decision last week. Tedy Bruschi who used to play with this same defensive unit not a lot of you guys but that but some of the guys on that on that team. Came out and felt that the defense of players are probably real -- right now. Because -- get the opportunity to be out -- and that feel that situation. Mayo says pretty much that's a bunch of whatever and he thinks that the coaching staff did put faith in -- what do you think.
to say troop Mara are of this by epic game and pop up felt like. Yet they at all it's beginning and I but but you've always got that in the back Umar. We don't -- in the defense kept a hold up at that while they're popular like in you know they and yet they -- Egypt is stop. -- But that's pretty -- a look at.
See that's helped me to tell me that it has yet we we we have a great -- able want to you know one keep -- helped -- You know you never know what after -- at all or ordered CNET that it was he was all. -- with any control to let the field when games so in that not a good quarterback good scene. -- created office double bill one not distraught in it would look at all.
That sounds like a true team philosophy rather than -- offense and defense loss reserves on some right.
Yet there pop -- thinks so. I think that the weight you know I'm look at it you know other people have -- other views of the black. Right up there -- coming. Is not -- to it would only get it so. You've got the feel like you're deep into can can lease -- Right right here today up.
What's the what's the defense tired. In that last drive.
On the I don't know -- he beat I don't know we won't come out loud in the main it's only it's only put up thirty yards that --
Everybody says the defense was -- defense was this defense was that. Were you tired.
Need currently outlook at all. There are a lot of you know ready to go. You know did not -- as well me.
Is it it was a few plays where. Outlook army that that happens -- won't change it not as far as.
It's been the last drop like that we were pretty much. Optimize well written. Or you know what what some are what some place. And op bill could go out there while what -- we get --
did you -- have you detected. Any difference at all in the attitude of practice during the course of the expressing with the defense based on all of this conversation based on the fact that. Tour of the key players that played here you weren't here but two of the key players deployed here and Tedy Bruschi and Rodney Harrison. Worse so vocal about it on national TV have you sensed that. This defense has got an extra little kick in their step this week.
Are hoping so you can't really December -- it doesn't matter they play --
They arms sorting -- plays where you only -- you'd act or. Are -- native played perfect in gains in in tight situations -- like that's so. So he can't you have to ignore. Oh well what people Austrian about two. And it. Go up period at the next day. It was -- with. Her after the game was over not mean. You'd think about it. Think of things which could have done federal. You know what it but. You can't do anything about it you know one against announced -- is really ought the New York Jets not pretty much what I think is he -- Has done this week and put it passes group under. And we can't really think about that because we have a -- raising income and up and we need is what.
There's some people this past week -- have said that the defense seemed to change your look different late in the game that it it softened up obviously look like. You guys were pass situations on a regular basis the the defense change at all for those last few drives by the colts.
Well so it's really don't remember you know I'll probably don't number a lot of calls let them look. And you know look at the -- mayor's seat but I about I think we've we've pretty much but for the game plan. Home area and you know they they just executed down the stretch. Which which it's saying is gonna do let you know we didn't make the plays and we -- we needed to it in and they did and that's what achingly with a victory.
How you look at the jets the second time around they -- the first time around but obviously they've been in a -- You got the coming off an emotional loss but obviously played pretty well last week is well -- team this time around.
I will -- like every week. We we there like every week. We noticed is incomplete so we -- or. First pop around and they had trade Abreu that was sort of another weapon that we got. -- we yet -- form so is this is certainly going to be. -- Iranian President dating game and by -- and taking into account. So aren't that deep it is not so you -- like every every week. Justice China's people is. Deeply game cranky because I invite you on the same page so we could well go out there day in. And execute. Try to couple it -- that they.
I was -- has looked compared to I would do early in the season.
Us market -- than. In early -- he's been up and down were pretty consistent. Think you had no one game lead to a lot of interceptions look at buffalo game. Home. Nobody even you know good and in the first game in. Nobody that good even looked good it'll film and he makes a lot of that grows. An army Europe. It's. Australia he he carried its -- in a pocket arms. Now but but he still scrambled to throw away -- so. -- already in better and better each week. -- we just have to you know -- trying to -- after. You know discussing things and to mix it up and try to get out.
just an estimate that scrambling because when he does scramble he seems to have some success. Throw the ball on the run -- scenes have a lot of difficulty market is when he gets pressure right up the middle he almost seems like he rushes or forces the ball. As of -- and you know one at a defense -- back to you can essentially and looking at some of the film that that's where. You can capitalize a little bit specimen a guy you know guys rushing a little bit and maybe not. Time to get out perfectly thrown the ball where he wants to throw it.
And that's that's what you wanna do with a -- a lot of lot of Quebec but especially young quarterbacks it's not at try to get rational about the pocket. I'm playing he does like I -- in what he does best and success. Going -- not a pocket game in -- run TDs litigated debt now. But if you you know let's get pressure occur throughout the middle and -- some -- think that the rose that Leo. That -- backhand -- back that are you know hours and covered.
Yeah this whole experience been field I mean -- a lot different. I would think from where you came from your electric -- a premiere premiere last despondent things haven't got much better out there enough. In the try to I'm I'm wondering how differently than experience this has been field.
On the indifferent. And -- a great. Great get. -- I can't even describe it words there is it would it was pretty bad last year and you know you know -- when gain. But that everything everything was. Was back. It's. Okay I'm in on not. On as we know yeah yeah. And not try to build those. It was -- change because. Because look to something -- it around there it is it makes it you know you wouldn't think in a note saying it would be so -- so those things but. You know I'm not it's. You know what's in the -- not they'll. I have written so it seems so. Are -- number one seed and you know go. Without any gay people being you know that that let. On paper have a lot of work at a situation news great on that. When it was it was a come it would seem like like the patriots where they -- attitude of women and you know take not a net. Been in wedding -- they wanna big culture and sugar the year not just play out so. This is -- winner attitude is that gap created coaches and great. -- and you know pretty must. Best coaches there'll. It is wonderful. Where would have wanted to best quarterback Everest is wonderful on days is is a great atmosphere day in and I'm and so there.
Let me ask you this it -- in both of those situations. Like at a spot I'd taken this I take it it's not coincidence. That one of these teams seems to be in the run every year. And the other team doesn't when you go to work every single day in every facet. Of what they do do you just. Feel totally different do you just see how the operation was done totally different and is that the reason. That one of these teams is a tremendous success and the other one hasn't.
Passing. -- sort of I walked in the air. It is determined it didn't feel right. Not -- Cleveland. Not completely Cleveland was not a bad law is based at all. That their organizations that are being their top -- you know its flaws organization. -- indicated dark arts. Did did she -- And you know per player personnel whatever whatever it is.
Delegates emissions -- out yeah we do.
Yeah it yet so let us bought it bought it -- players. And having good data there are clean and you know debt load was. Was a good organization -- in you know common goal to be truly. It did didn't he did it feel like they are. I Iraq -- accurate record in the word that he has been built a lot of the things every at bat. Everything just.
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It was art it was art go to work and pay and be happy you know I shot what so that the -- positive. But what it's like you know when you see -- things Poland. In Egypt can't. See why why it -- in a note saying it would do things I just example raised. This is it was absolutely put in I'm glad that the market situation there ole ole -- In another situation.
The incident was an example.
You know I'll really care company gets everything. -- I yeah I mean it's it was everything. It was. Not me it was everything. I mean that -- they'll. Just sit up and in you know got the vehicles at the scene in in you know we get this thing fill it up out. Let you know what was -- really. The gridlock it's you because I mean I'm not I'm not. Let -- right now oh so let it EU itself to immunize up they'll. Simply think of anything right now.
let me ask you this -- getting back to the to the patriots in the situation. And the way they play week to week. Everything entirely changes based on the upon. It also may mean that your starting one week the next week you're not start -- them doing different things based on the skill level. Of that individual player that ever gets here.
Can't you can't question will it work bill has I don't know what it would work because -- east. Each -- and -- and -- are eaten those least -- Everything we we. And AA that was what he felt like is that politically. And and you have to go along with this. You know what blogger. -- have been in Detroit nice here they may start -- beginning but how -- want so. Rather. -- audible and her pain contribute harper. Knows it won't need to contribute. --
The truth is there a certain confidence in the locker room it's almost. Public almost feel when you're -- locker room as opposed to a solves a big goal from the giants the jets in 93. Go from greater organization took. Crap organization can almost feel it when you when you walked into the locker room.
Yeah it is is who I. It is it like I have competent that the global wind. Let you comment on an -- act you it might probably go --
Yeah and well hey any relief for -- that echo that typically let me ask you this because the corporates on Thanksgiving Day every single year. And it's absolutely in a rural solid -- fairly. It's hardly think those guys -- thinking the went into this Thanksgiving Day.
You know what but they've bought by doing that is because. -- me. Everybody you know what how he had a lot and it right at everything you want change and is. What about you know they'll pay it so let out all of those parties and old -- what do we -- outlook I. While we -- public -- like read this first of -- the typical Watson. Maybe -- to get -- well. And a -- gonna play games -- Leave -- at all like third element that please score. It was. It would -- It started to -- bad bad -- I'll clip art out hot topic operatic regain regain -- You it will it it goes unnoticed because. If we got on I was like what someone not what. -- Let that we're glad we're not what. Yet but I'm able Leo's you know it is not that -- years. -- have have a better at something that it -- okay. They have a later. Not -- up ought to want while Watson later.
in the people in to try to not watching in this because I acquired a short spiked let me try this would like can't get it didn't solid game -- not put them on local team that.
All get a outlook lakers' that would give away tickets Thanksgiving game like they did it -- the year well.
See -- I'm glad you point this is that. There's nobody here when you when they hear you talk like that we appreciate. What -- we have here and that should not go on notice because.
You know their bodies were given. It. You know took at least the whole game not mean we got a couple critical gains but I mean when you're losing losing. It is blue. It also yet yet. As should be thankful to have. Good -- great secret organization its -- Somalia.
Buccaneers don't organization planned Sunday you don't of the blame Thanksgiving Day this year -- you guys -- probably get before he says. -- it was great to -- good luck on Sunday. -- figure -- of the New England Patriots. At that the most interesting answer more could you wonder our guys are gonna react and we all talked about it after the Denver game he's one of the two stars right right. Suddenly a week later two kids are in their starting and Belichick -- had a better shot now since he said our opportunities again. They don't give up on these guys. But you wonder. He played for good team that works I tickets do if you plan for a beachfront lines in you know start you sit in on what public -- on wall now at least at least played well. They exploit well at least that was actually because Belichick. We've seen this before if he sees a certain -- gonna worked at a -- another -- that's removal what -- I gotta take a break we have taken a break in a deal. -- We'll take a break and we'll give actual thing -- that's. I crack at -- we actually bought that it was perfect and one interesting little quote from Randy Moss responded to mr. real -- and all animosity that's going. I visit all the guarantees could I guarantee you this is going to be a big when by the -- in the defense was gonna do put points on the board right now here's here's the other -- for -- as well there will be some skirmishes on the -- mile pushing little shove it. And hopefully kept fighting to Wednesday.
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