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Fri, 6 Nov 2009|

Peter talked about the mess that both the Cleveland and Oakland franchises are in, the Patriots and Dolphins matching up on Sunday in Foxboro, Joey Porter's comments about Tom Brady and the Pats, and that Mike Shanahan and Jon Gruden will coach next year if anyone offers them a head coaching position

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  1. Malcom Floyd12:34
  2. Tyjuan Hagler12:58
  3. Joey Porter7:52, 8:12, 9:37
  4. Marlin Jackson13:38
  5. Indianapolis Colts12:39
  6. Kevin Williams10:39
  7. Chris Chambers12:16
  8. Mike Shanahan19:18
  9. Reggie Wayne18:44
  10. Philip Rivers11:39, 12:11

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Our number three yeah -- Sports Radio WUPI broadcasting live. Well generally from the new -- building what today. At Gillette Stadium on a patriots Friday every week at this time. We talk with Peter King from Sports Illustrated SI dot com and NBC sports. Peter king of rock you by Fred C church insurance it's not just the policy. It's the people good afternoon mr. king.

What but they don't like my. -- you do everything going good I don't even know anything about field kept the weight so riled up.

This caller try to somehow equate a loss of castle lots of Bobby or a loved it and it's a life long Bruins fan I'm sorry I cannot allow that gets respect in my house a lot of it is very entertaining Peter good well it.

Good to know that you you guys can still get fired up about things.

Exactly. Let's I I I heard -- chapter on the an earlier show this morning and he was asked question about. Which organization is the biggest mass right now in your opinion is it Cleveland or Oakland.

Well I mean Oakland is a perennial -- with Cleveland it's catching him right now and I talked to Randy -- yesterday at some point. The owner of the browns and it's fairly startling what's going on on that scene right now but. -- to eat here here here here so way to do the math -- mean imagine that. You've got to hold true you fire Romeo -- now. Julio three years in nine million dollars. You've got a general manager who you hire Phil savage. We still low for years and about twelve million dollars. He had an offensive coordinator -- in people -- months earlier you just re up for two million dollars a year. Extend him for three years from now. He is they get he's an assistant out in San Diego what he's still owe him minimum. Like four and a half million over the next three years because of this thick -- might make or country McNamee much more. So the guys you just fired. And there are some other and let the little bit less money you want on some other coaches but -- you fired. We're not even talking about George who penis now but the guy you fired the last time you'll. Point five million dollars.

And then you know church cocaine it's -- by year's about a million a year. You're gonna fight him somewhere in order for an arbitrator the you have to pay him off. He's gone after eight games. And you know I get the feeling. Right now you know just talking -- people around Cleveland. That the reason that Randy Lerner is bringing in some. -- you know they're they're bringing in. Eighty want debris in the eighties. You know eight a new guy. -- of beat the particular head of the -- organization right now and -- over the football side that that guy's gonna -- Ritter ranging days ago. So what they get rid of me NTV there's three more years and nine million. It's just it's like you've got to work for Cleveland you may not be -- which might get a lottery.

Well I'd say what Peter your fellow Ohio University bobcat is gonna be so jealous -- you -- Tony gross do you think would W as well. And he tried to get Randy Lerner -- talked to -- only. Already -- it would do what Tony -- he is is return an email with some scripted questions with no follow ups involved. I wonder what what do you think Randy learners trying to hide -- talk to you when he would talk Tony --

In my opinion. Look I have to account on the follow them for quite awhile I asked them a lot of questions and most of the questions were answered with -- just keep it in that. You know why get fired white to fire cocaine. What you know what happened you know why did this become intolerable -- guy after eight weeks. Mean that's that's unbelievable it it but he just wouldn't. He wouldn't take debate on anything -- like -- That I got. And I certainly didn't get a lot more. On the record if if anything in Tony grows he got so I just think. Anything facing now publicly I think probably hurt their case. Whatever they do try to make its case against cooking -- and not have to pay him. But look the bottom line in the whole thing or whoever pays -- what ever happened. You know they are they it's I mean Michael it if this all really expect to. A decision. That Randy -- may be. Right after. This these last year. When Eric Mangini gets fired and the two guys who eater. You know to try it'd get his team back on the right course. Got the only European. Now at the time. -- wasn't convinced that pioli was all in the with the browns and I wasn't convinced about it either. So. He then hired Eric means in the bottom line in this whole thing. At least if spurs aren't concerned. If -- if primary dealer. I am. In my opinion anyway movement have an -- to try to convince pioli becomes clean up the -- But he didn't do that and at the end of the day. Decided. On mean Jeannie and I think that's the root of all its problems there be you know I mean you don't need -- head coach. Nearly as much you need an architect. And a football person to -- everything in Europe because they they don't have that.

Well let's talk about two franchises that are actually competitive the patriots and dolphins will meet. On Sunday in the dolphins' undefeated and in the AFC east would you expect from this game Peter.

Well I think don't want it means the patriots have is that I'm sure. The Bill Belichick is spent as many man hours working on studying the wildcat and Al is deep and can better respond to it if you're here the last year. And I mean that's going to be a whole different. I think the difference in this -- is that you know and New England now know. And -- not -- it or a spam but I'd be right if they got to. You know put on them because while at I think the one other factor in this gain. Is that. I think if you get behind. -- you got a young quarterback like Matt Cassel. And you'd need to score quickly and everything I just think that game one of the reasons they got out of control. Fairly quickly. Is that I don't think the patriots were all in with Matt Cassel you know what I mean they didn't they didn't feel comfortable now. When they got behind -- got behind early bye bye good bye good amount they didn't feel comfortable enough to play the way they would of played with great. So instead of it being shoot doubt instead of an in -- 3835. Age you know -- either side. It ended up being in whatever 38 or whatever the score was because I just don't think patriots were. Equipped to play -- so that opened last year it's.

Do you think Joey Porter believes everything he says.

You know if -- player. I'm not sure that. You go to journalism school to learn the whole story about a lot of things. So you know it's easy for Joey Porter could say. Everything the patriots -- it was painted and they make up rules for Tom Brady you know. Is that he's he's and they he's in the Lee Harvey Oswald. Cuba. CIA. Frank Sinatra school. Conspiracy theories on who shot. You know -- But. That's the eight guys you know I have been around a lot of locker rooms that's what we locker rooms are. If there was -- spiky thing happened all of a sudden everything the patriots ever -- was suspect. Not a lot of players are gonna say it but a lot of players will believe that just because that's what they think. They'll say well the patriots were too good for too long. Of -- had been -- was -- And it's just like it's the -- perceptions it formed. Not just in football but in life. That's the easy way to think of it rather than the -- That for a long time. Belichick it's been it's smart or smarter than everybody else it's easy if they yep. The only reason Mary good is because they see in -- the only read in the NFL made this rule is because Tom Brady got -- So that's the way to do it it's not the logical waited it would but it becomes the easy way. And a lot of players aren't sure I'm sure it Joey Porter Herbalife the structure a lot of players feel both feel that way you're you're at the Baltimore Ravens. US to real -- About. The rule the Tom Brady rule. And what do you think he's. He's in I think that the that the -- with its ruling the play for Tom Brady.

You think of the giants are earned any kind of trouble Peter mess -- them. It rolled by the saints and I saw them get rolled by the Eagles what's going on there.

Well I think there's two things going on Mike I think they're real trouble and the two things that you look at is there are that that they have not been able to get any consistent defensive pressure on the quarterback. You know nobody nobody talks about missing. Who was that kind of right things are defensive tackle that nobody is our very much about them -- thinker. Who was brought in to be. In -- support Meehan. Kevin Williams you know the vikings. Really did defensive back on the vikings. And nobody talked about that the people should talk about it because. Those two guys leaving it would be really have not been able to -- well and that's what effect those used in Europe. As well coming back is in the impact guy. From knee surgery. There secondaries pedestrian. Airdrop. And -- they'll. A quarter -- the respectively. And you know like it if they -- and it might be because it's split. We don't know exactly why would you like -- Is plainly in canal and and there's a there's gotta be -- and -- the last three weeks they. And he didn't think he look like -- look like his brother for five weeks of -- to I think you're in trouble absolutely yet to believe it. Indeed a church is gonna come to the middle that big gains for Philip Rivers for a lot of reasons number one. He knows that a lot of these team right now on his shoulders because -- defensive leader the history right now. So he knows that a lot of this on shall go up played a guy who regardless of what he says any but he says. In this is the guy get treated for the guys in his lap of one Super Bowl ads in Roethlisberger. And and and I think you're gonna be a total bomb weight gain. By Philip Rivers after watching the secondary played well. You know now that Chris Chambers on. The -- you look at this -- There and in Norv Turner told me -- in the summer. You know they basically have like an NBA inside it -- the they're gonna -- 265230. Pound guys. And they've been intact and Malcom Floyd and I think it and -- matchup problem.

The Indianapolis Colts are still undefeated but I wonder if they're going to be able to stay that way Marlon Jackson. I -- is ACL in practice on Wednesday he's on injured reserve done for the year. Bob Sanders has headed down to Alabama to visit the doctor James Andrews. Are they -- start to pile up a little too much for the colts here.

Two other ones Tyjuan Hagler it was a real but -- Guy who knew their -- so well he's out for years now torn biceps and and area under the radar thing I was in Indianapolis this week. Area under the raider thing any any insult -- Kirkwood coming back from his. Knee injury from week one he's -- he's yet look you know procedure this week he might be out another couple weeks to. I I think Nicole now. Are starting to take -- it's accurately imagine. Eight and the patriots if they have to without without. Enters. And Marlin Jackson. Mean that that -- very very troubled. Things there are the and I think we're getting to the point now where. We probably have seen the best of biopsies. That. But he's got such chronically bad mean now that I I wonder how many how many gains. He's going to be able to play here read your hero in his career still. You know it's like it's on the bricks but he is not able they on the field that's the thing. I'd be most worried about handers but I also be extremely worried. About losing Jackson because this cover.

While you talk about those those losses and you look at the colts their undefeated still. But is it its -- seems to be pretty worrisome if you look at some of the -- some of these guys out there.

and that Michael but last week I watched the game and BC would only done let me tell you that Indianapolis. Offensive line really got got I'm not gonna thing -- that seems wrong word but patriots are gonna look at that and I think. Like if I'm if I'm looking at that. There's. Guys have a much better -- anybody -- for nobody knows who he is anymore Abreu right on the defensive tackle for this really had his way. With the Indianapolis the offensive -- last week and I think I think that would be particularly worrisome because I think that provide a little bit of a blueprint of how to plea coal. You know really hacked them up and it'll. You know mean mean it's. If I'm Vince Wilfork I'm really looking at that -- very closely.

Do you think they're the best team -- another undefeated but are the best still.

I mean. I would be hesitant to say that right now I think you know on the record as they're the best we've -- in the but I guess some of victims watching. What I want the last thing I saw. And I watched that entrances of the game and they were not they did not fully well that day now any time we have meaning to help these of course. Plane at the absolute peak to gain. Disease you know it in and out as a unit. Just Mort just write this down. You watch Austin Collie for the next 34 by here's this guy is going to be the dark. And C the weight you've suggested this office -- in the fourth round pick is extremely impressive -- meaning. Meaning of the guys. And so -- they're going to be litigated and but. I worry about their running game and I worry about they're back in you know worry about expected here. I would say right now these next two weeks illegal long wait for determining in the -- one team. In the day at these that I think could be the most the injury before it's all over -- I love the rate -- a lot of them the last month so even when they were losing. What's left quarter against Minnesota and dismiss such valiant effort scored 21 point of impact. And I I thought they were gonna win gains but it's Hugo the end. And there are very very impressively and then last week so who knows I mean the AFC it means a lot more wide open in the you know.

Much of a problem is Roy Williams going to be in Dallas.

You know dale that the good question I think C. I think he's not -- incendiary device like Terrell Owens was. But I do think that his disappointment palpable and wonders why is -- the Euro. Is go all we would miles -- in. And he's kind of you know side. And I think you're I mean look I was in Dallas three. No white room miles -- Good. He's good he's opened. And that's the one thing I can just tell you this right now you know -- He's out of the business now. Saying I gotta get the -- etiquette of bluntly. Opposes. All he's doing -- go through his reads whoever is open -- Now. Quarterback -- in the quarterback I would be surprised. -- you know the next time they the cowboys have the game where there -- up by double digits in the second half. I would that the case air would you know call about five pass plays. You know rip city games that are designed. For Roy Williams to be the first option. Quarterbacks do that note I'm paid meaning it is aimed. Over the years for you know we've won game. Reggie Wayne. You know word yet if people Marvin Harrison didn't he would know that the next game was in it are in the ball early off. That's -- marked by the quarterback but. I don't but I think it -- get so -- up. Over trying to placate -- alone. Over the last couple years to be it you know that that'll kill the quarterback and not do it.

For what you can tell Peter which one of these. Former big dog coaches last general managers is getting restless and you know we novelist Mike Shanahan.

I power my guard spent some time with my meaning in this week and he makes no bones about it if somebody offers in the job. In Kenya or he's taken. He's absolutely in it that. Now he's he's not gonna -- place where he thinks he wins but you know he's gonna be back in football. The other guy is gonna be back in football on the one -- the -- for him if again if somebody or higher.

These are good on TV as they don't unite.

Think he is I think he is I think he's good to -- that there are some things he does very well. And and I enjoyed them on Monday night I think he explains. Some technical stuff here well I've been doing that act. I don't know why. But. Every time I think the group I think -- in the right. Because I -- they. That these. Strong personality. Who couldn't get along with -- another strong personality. And I think it's it's almost magnetic I think later girls --

We always appreciate time and enjoy talking football with we will talk to next week. Great thank you Peter okay Peter -- came from Sports Illustrated SI dot com and NBC sports brought to you by -- church insurance. It's not just the policy it's the people you go to WEEI dot com slash Galen -- Halfway down the page you'll find a very nice picture of Peter -- so Monday Morning Quarterback -- that is out. You click on that it'll take Yemen direct -- by the book as we get closer for the holidays there's a couple of books that we would recommend very highly -- there. One is Peter king's one is Jackie McMullen. When heavily for Jackie's booked yet. But we heavily for Peter's book and -- go to WEEI dot com there's a link on heightened by haven't under the tree for your sports.

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