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Thu, 5 Nov 2009|

Peter Gammons joins The Big Show to discuss the Yankees 27th world championship and the offseason moves for the Red Sox.

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I let's talk to a guy who was their last night at Yankee Stadium leaves outfield to the game was over -- from ESPN. Peter Gammons parties still going on down their Peter to dread that the home.

Now estranged Oakland it was if they want. Anyway you're goal it was the last one out. Like millions. And under the ballpark. Wallace a beautiful ballpark and a lot of things reflect on it. Initial reaction and it work you know of people -- you are saying. 300 at. It's like Robert dollar -- I'd just get says the sanctions and Erika pickles certainly felt that are all people to track for. Now they're happy but it's not you don't get quite the same or should you -- agency I think that's a different part. If you were intimidating because it was so good in that part of the ballpark gives up. Sort of cheap all arms where -- wasn't there wouldn't -- it wasn't that wild -- That there have been in years past. You know maybe it was so much. Expectation -- okay hard way to test team should win all of that but I think partly as a person -- park. We were counting up straight and 5000 in -- age a couple of things in the Angels there.

And then amazing. Does this does this change the perception by Yankee fans. Of A-Rod now has.

Our topic question I mean I -- me. He struck if you start shot so many years trying to. And when he -- wasn't perfect. I think it made it easier formed -- realize. Talked about -- a -- it's a lot all the way. Toward celebration. Is that the Yankees it's not about him. It's about the Yankees is not a vote. Now twenty million people watching -- about. Now there's people watching I think that may change what is your form this year and clearly cares they would go and not that. -- there's extra effort to. -- Now -- he's now like the that's also the same time I think it's much easier for me -- seen -- all the last night -- McCain. I don't -- senseless that the somewhere else where it went well it's back will get it's it's not help our partners. Social personality age six caricature or a baseball player. That's kind of nice to being once again pebble is like it will that would support.

How it's gonna say it's not as controversial on page six for him anymore now is Kevin. Nicely girlfriend our British point era may and a crowd but there's no controversy about it would talk a lot about this today in that. You look at the Yankees and you go back over the last eight or nine years to brought a lot of different people in. And haven't been able to and a lot of big bats and all of those nine years we talked about how the Yankee lineup was a killer lineup. Including A-Rod now the addition of Teixeira. What was more significant for them this year to win at the addition of Teixeira taking away from the Red Sox. Or the fact that they really had an ace now with CC sabathia and to a lesser degree and AJ Burnett as the number two.

I think. -- actually shut the whole juxtaposition of Teixeira would be useless but let's not. There's no getting around that are very different -- Sharon's in bought our New York. I had the reprieve everybody else that but -- it hasn't been going out and change -- walls and -- want starter or a previous years there why this particular during the records in wasn't. Our guy in the policies were. -- Or extra -- At this point in his career probably. Dropped back that's they're they're pretty similar. And -- chase -- but in all the last three years has been a little picture based. Are at least it'll help -- opening. Just what has also he he made efforts and that being doubled hassle shall rule that all year. Which was really important and you most guys are -- one. God like. And that is currently in the market next two or three years so callous and thirty what mark.

Peter what do you think the Yankees go from here obviously the you know -- perceived toll in the health field. But do they make a big splash. Along lines of what they did last not there's not enough players I -- to make that kind of splash but what -- think they --

I think that's great sign. That's certainly let him go and I say that. Law is so very good hitter. All of that site all the stuff at the -- In -- that they get actually I don't know let it go it's it's too important to the old problems but it is that. And I think they probably. Go to war. Veteran journeyman outfielder. And also I think I think they'll go -- market a couple of relievers. And you know Chamberlain aunt or -- I I actually. Start pitcher -- so I I think they'll. The projects out not a whole lot unfortunately that is pressure now Steinberg. That the it will not. Okay now they've won in a ballpark. All right that's great and they had. You know that -- should pretty much the same next year so that will open in dramatic change.

Both so I guess the the biggest fear -- Red Sox fans are. The the Yankees do get involved in the Jason Bay market or even the Mount Holly market so you're saying that you don't think vehicle of their toes and that.

I don't think so. -- enough already about defense. In left field. So I don't I don't think that that's something it would go to a lean toward bigger people they like -- but -- not. You know that it would be willing to in order to believe Warriors of the let's not -- I don't think he's become major players -- ought to. All very good player. Still. Especially the -- in and Phillies scouts were sitting out in in one's the Saint Louis or the doctors. Forty by the portrait fastball -- the only ball hit well all breaking ball. And that you warrior a little bit about. -- in America league on the side churches election until there.

Sort of the Red Sox do now in the offseason. They got a long way to go to match what pages witnessed here in the last week.

Until all the owner's perspective of got to remember that soul of the store where. The about much -- Or drives the -- back and 614. Years but those -- those where guys get. And how much longer are they play match up well cheer -- thousand. I looked so. Last year's only five -- stars. Up -- a World Series game pretty by double figures wandered policies and it is amazing what he's done. Sammy. Rivera is forty spot. -- sort of wonder. -- really struggled the first. In the policies just wonder how shall go and then you know are still very good. I think so much potential want to -- won't say publicly that they're going to be next year or audience are hopeful that. Double -- I think probably they usually have a lot.

I was especially in the Red Sox afford and if you're right in the Yankees. Are not a shooter for -- that may bring down the length of this contract the most you know San Francisco or Seattle or somebody else. Makes a real pitch form but can the Red Sox afford now. Based on the fact that man he's not here that seemed to make up that offense with bay and was Victor Martinez can they afford to lose play -- if they do. How they replace them.

Well I think that that step backwards. For and -- Is currently out what to think you like tiger. And he played well in Boston. Which I think is would. Our trust in the preakness comes supporting the local audience saying okay guys work. Sixteen dollars dollars a wallet or for that if you -- if you hit eighteen million dollars somewhere else. It comes out of that is so well in the paper college birdies accountable. I'd be surprised Seattle produces that a player actually including parents and that's what -- that are -- about right currently such. And -- got -- out. I'm not sure where the market pays them -- you won't play champ which is well hit home runs. Celtics.

what do you think the Red Sox in that case and I and I agree with you with the with polity and this -- some questions here. Over here honestly I know in in Oakland certainly is playing and -- the worst hitters park going but. Do you think that they might like him more than bay in that they look at. Defense is an important factor out there and despite the fact that he had that big are in the in the postseason he's a better defense of --

Article younger he's -- Least you know and I. I I think they're great automatic hours rate for Boston to Raiders he used it you loads -- auction in lives in this whole. -- voters assistant editor bill follows John Carroll's coaching. At Oklahoma State and their coach hired. -- approach. Is uncles that cluster of Rockies etc. I think it will Austin but. Again I mean golf courses. Good article well. We'll also -- a few of these work forty million dollars what would share.

Trust me if they sign it will be at the -- mid January before we find out.

I doubt on what god I. Wonder sometimes. What -- as far as -- walked in here. They proportions and you're very lucky it is my other -- you're away from a lot of guys all. Article the classes they have places workers what exactly -- Elsewhere this year and go he's going to be 31. On opening day of his next contract. And you know what's working that well like Horry as a Red Sox pitcher. Qualities. Going six less experiences about going back at 2007 is really -- Urges just reports -- so hundred -- less innings arm and the last two years were guys at -- overwhelming. He's given up eighteen plus and struck out seventeen political season and that it questions that are being is that 15. Years. Chase sixteen million dollars a year in his thirties are that that -- is -- questions so. All. Will be at least act. I don't know I don't think they do it let me answer our questions I'll certainly -- shall.

They do trade Josh Beckett in this offseason and we understand that they're going to sit down with a here in the next few weeks to talk about an extension and maybe get a better read. As to what that number's going to be and and length of contract if they do trade him do they not have to go and make a deal to try to get a Felix Hernandez or somebody. Who is younger because we're talking earlier. It'll feel style we start with penny was -- was smoltz maybe to bring Rich Harden and a bench it's a guy who's had some injury problems here but it got -- already done it on this level you know we can do when healthy. But will that be good enough if they trade -- Beckett wouldn't have to go and get off Hernandez. To be at the top of the rotation.

Part of our soul on the record that would be exact opposite of what they wouldn't trade if -- if they decided. Explore the market -- That would be our purpose strict fire -- that's Albert. Pistol I don't see Seattle and Seattle's Turco. Inexpensive opposition players signed. Also Shane has looked out and go okay. You know if you look at. I don't prepare any change sticker that could trade back it. Thinking that he's gotten were -- sixteen or else America market extremely. Small. Not -- one so you're okay target -- getting the usually 23 years old. -- answer Russell -- teaching young players were told our animals Alex -- One of the position player at any older and all that it would get. What they were perceived to be equal number three starter and young guy can be number two or number three starter. -- I'll Lester Buchholz and then and they hope Casey Kelly a couple years -- not built premiere product laws. As a long layoff acted properly would be -- record the question is prepared you know what -- what you get. How is he at this point in his career I think -- if it's something to be deaths in the last two playoffs. He worked well in the last two years like he was in 2007. There probably won't Wilson's last year and -- the Yankees in the ALCS's.

It looked at alone -- Timing is everything. Because you look at Beckett the last contract he signed. He was on a down role at that point maybe Larry little notify right lacked a little bit of security and one of the extension and took. Less dollars yet you're right he goes and the free agency. I a year and a half later. That he tops off and gets the big bucks instead now he's looking good going into an uncertain period again for him. When he left so much money on the table the last time you wonder yet.

How we -- heaters that I think that there's there's probably going to be a team out there it's gonna wanna just back in the free agent market. So hum by going to years that's the big question as he also so it's is a lot of uncertainty is I think it's pretty fascinating case it's gonna shape. A lot of the red ties to what you said Peter.

I think every I think for instance. Because of worries well and because of life experience -- the club president. I think Texas. -- would be seen in a free agent market. -- I don't think however taxes would trade. There's they would -- all the work very you know I would trade. That's how pulleys and a couple of our other top prospects. Our options or something like that so -- I think that as their problems are bigger would sign him as a free agent I'm not sure they would trade. What awesome corporate law or about all the right now.

He'll pretty -- talk about ages and thirds of a -- courses that changed over the years they evaluate. House so what's gonna -- to -- real people have been under pressure and better workouts as were cute and should be around not judge a guy what he gets in this series as opposed to ten years ago.

The trick question there because there are also apply here in the early nineties what we thought they can live forever as. From chemicals that they can put their party.

You know good had happened the -- and I asked that period and they will.

We can carry out our third spot again. Like Charlie Daniels partner or the greatest player there's ever going to be during. Adults yet and it looks like -- and he's got -- how. The -- was being sarcastic and you know want. -- hear about all. You know it day in and I think can change in the -- like so much I think as hitting coach -- It's a real part in the -- and look at Jeter. And look at Rivera. At -- efforts at 35. That just how many guys like let it let -- friction training. You know I. But it apparent on the -- her heart for guys to. That heavy out of shape at 122930. And don't think that they can then go get in shape. True endurance and the next ten years. Look at -- on and 2000.

To Peter what have decision Gonzales -- season. Or does everything happen.

I think as a champion street -- talk to torture warrantless my pocket ordered. Out there corporate injure other open publicity. Because at -- there's a long term you'll wear that franchise's all. But I technically still -- an awful lot and black it would they'll definitely talked. Because every person's -- explain more outs like that count Alice Stewart. What factors that we will have realized -- outs in long term. Obligations. And L I'll watch the presidential new air I don't wanna -- in an excellent mister -- could take a longer virulent. -- longer Parcells well you know as saying okay -- the ball straighter Gonzales. 27 and has worked as a -- to take my guess is able to make it work to trade.

If that's the case and it doesn't happen with the Red Sox and you look at what they do going into next season. You look at David Ortiz going into last year of his contract you figure that might be some motivation is already talked about going to athlete's performance. Down in in Arizona and you look at Mike lol maybe you get more out of him it's last year of his deal plus -- years now removed from. From the hip surgery. If you the Red Sox you can justify -- maybe you're gonna get more out of those guys next year -- can you depend on it can you rely on that they can you leave yourself. That open if those guys don't come out perform next year at that level.

I don't care that you -- to have. -- I don't know cricket like us that's -- for so I mean you place first place -- epic at -- That it's them looking for that is an issue at. An insurance policy a better hitter sometimes that can play first of all their little whatever. -- So we have to do. They should be a lot of guys out there and a lot of non tenders. The -- a free agent market will be slow again. By -- Asia where it is very good as well let's watch Bobby was not. -- area. That that's pretty significantly less of a needle person he's going to be replaced John Lackey so. -- I altercation that. One. Destination like you know I'm not much a short.

Always Seymour more that a baseball when you say the the free agency's gonna be slow -- take that your. You viewing the economy again from what we dealt with -- last year Bobby Abreu was a great find five million dollar gets the two year extension at ninety but five million -- you couldn't get. A bigger bargain could beat those players out there that are up there in age that the Red Sox might pick a shot on 41. Year. Because it's short dollars that is low risk and that the upside is tremendous.

Our fitness quest -- look around and say okay I don't look around some changes sale and we Barry worship at all. When you take last year's contract last two years -- going to be some guys like -- on the government -- And on the -- in making sixty million Owens. And these guys like that. -- At the rosters it's still. Important -- up to develop players but it you can feel in Europe released there have a formidable guys. Action might be some pretty vulgar for very cheap money well. Now reporters. Don't Otto playable for a little short birdie try to what you're DO and not on strike. Out. A long time it may be. That -- in January before you know. Losses.

Period in your mind is there any other scenario besides the one of the Jason Varitek. Excepting the player option for three million dollars.

I don't believe so I think it is contract. As a that's really count on -- and the very sympathetic to Eric but in this case for all parties play. It was I understand performance and so forth but. I don't think. Common back as a backup for him bounce. It may be better off the ropes helping find another job board -- where -- One -- in and incentives I don't know as I can't read.

The Red Sox give Alex Gonzales six to come back order they tried to work out maybe up. More equitable deal for them. -- Alex Gonzales or did they dismiss him and go elsewhere.

I think -- fireworks outlet for about frequently. And it may be news agencies you know what he's accurate. -- Twenty games. Which I doubt that it will it's against. For a lot -- probably better. -- thousands -- world which is under a lot of guys last year -- happened to practice.

Great stuff is always Peter we're looking forward to the hot stove in the offseason is is going to be a lot of great stuff going on there where. Happy to have you back here on the and a fictional look forward to talk and in the offseason.

Thank slot. And -- Out produce -- in the summer integrate. Our initial ball well. Also it is it's a disgrace to the well all.

Well are kind of pissed -- that to yourself don't help me out all I talked to what is exactly what to go to the people there that won't help but it is orders voted Peter -- so we've been hearing the breaks tonight. -- as pissed -- a lot of people here so. Next couple of real big credit. I've I've Nadal talking is still Peter Gammons of ESPN. Exclusively writing probably Joan WEI.

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