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Tue, 20 Oct 2009|

The guys discussed if anyone cares about MLB postseason and looked at all the things surrounding the Patriots, including Adalius Thomas, Tully Banta-Cain, and the NFL trade deadline

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  1. Greg Lewis6:56
  2. Greg Jennings7:56
  3. DeAngelo Williams8:31
  4. Joseph Addai8:34
  5. Joey Galloway7:01
  6. Chad Jackson7:50
  7. Bill Belichick5:24, 6:16, 11:08
  8. Mike Vrabel6:45
  9. Laurence Maroney8:05
  10. Wes Welker4:34

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You think our audience cares about. Playoff baseball I think so I think so I wondered is -- easy to walk offs last night living and dying with post season baseball obviously not -- You got. -- the best of the best out there right now. And I think the audience cares because. Most people that take 85% of the people listened to us that -- that's just my pop -- poll question yes. Eighty parts of the people listen to -- when the Yankees lose. At a higher than that a -- what what we we can't be heard on the radio in the WEEI Sports Radio network. Connecticut Yankee fans yeah she's -- names and Yankee fans in --

Or 9% they RA vocal minority. I think we hear from home especially when they're you know about to win a series. You know frank from Gloucester is that the big show once speed dial when that happens. And you know when they lose you don't hear from him I think there there are very small but but loud part of our crowd at that that's how I've always. -- red and the vast majority. It's like if you don't play by play if you're doin' it if you're Sean reading you don't Celtics games and connect. What percentage of your audience isn't a Celtics fan it's about that big. And it's the same thing with us he does not the same thing -- talk radio versus doing a game for one I know I'm just saying the percentage of our audience I -- I I think it's a very small percentage it it and we could never. Do the math on this but.

See I don't think you're bound to do given the -- holly program enough credit. There are people out here. They're people out there who are and -- transplants from you know Chicago Atlanta LA. They wanna listen to talk radio and they were listening good sports talk radio they come here. They're not necessarily. In agreement. With our analysis of the Red Sox for the patriots and the Celtics. Or the Bruins but they listen anyway because sports are creating.

I just think that if he and I a lot of if you ever do the math. The percentage of Yankee fans and our audience would be less than 5%. I think if you could ever do Whitney can I bet it's less than five. You gotta got a project you can work on there maybe you and -- I -- gray Ph.D. in statistics Yale but I don't know if he wants to tell -- I don't know I don't think he's that's orbit right. -- that there he beat the drive demands busy in there no drive. Artists and because he's sipping EMTs to announcer voice out. It treated at a stroke. We can I open.

Traipse. Can traipse new England and does in maybe go door to door. And find out what people listen into and it will now what that what they're listening to put. Their fans. Something you can do for a -- To be gonna sabbatical. Or five or six months.

regularly yadier and I -- anywhere okay FFO. And if there's ever a health issue -- so I figured -- enough. There's so transparent that -- I got that I got to figure out you gotta you gotta hide it I don't know and -- got your finger toward the camouflaged man. And kilometer where we every morning you will get gathered at 730 all of us who work on The -- we -- conference call. And we solve the problems of the world over the course of thirty to forty minutes. This morning none of us had an answer for the following question. What the patriots cut telling with a two game. Even apparently short term though it may be and I'm sure there's some reason we don't grass some roster reason someone ever I can't figure it out.

You know what I'm I'm I'm done with that I'm -- but the reason that we don't grasp -- and the patriots. And they always figure it out and they always they always. Come out on top in the end well no -- don't. No they don't and and you look at the look at their personnel decisions. Over the last three to four years. Shaky. Middle of the pack. No they are they are one of big the great organizations. In in in the National Football League.

At little slump here lately haven't they wouldn't know how that part not not on the field they are on I don't know I meant -- In the org what are they talking roster decisions personnel decisions drafting trading okay free agent signings go.

Home runs. Hit home runs in 2007. By using two draft pick. Use a drastic action I think three moments -- a home run Randy -- yes. Home run Wes Welker are absolutely a team in your division that you make them weaker you make yourself better. And and also in that draft you take in the first round to take Jon Beason I'm over you -- Brandon Meriweather. Was it whose turn it looks like he's going to be a play very good -- yup.

But but no seven. You cited Ellis Thomas to a big contract coming off of a Pro Bowl year well -- Baltimore eleven sacks. All types of praise. From from teammates and coaches who say I did this guy you know rob Ryan -- can play anywhere. I mean a couple of games he played -- at safety for a little that we played in my corner. It can be at the -- of linemen that can he can stand up via linebacker he's all over the place what do versatile guy. You know smart guy a Bill Belichick type of player. This is -- we want well. Network now. Well read already. Made it he'd never never. Was the guy. He was described.

One play San Diego one place first game play good Super Bowl and all simulate and I'm on wall these very good charity is a good player. He is he really is the patriots version GA teacher. The good player. Solid player -- player but over overpaid. I never quite lives up to fan expectations. That apparently now doesn't live up to his coach's expectations either. Now maybe he hasn't for awhile now and my guess is he hasn't for awhile now. But this is the first time we we talked about this Little -- yesterday you know we didn't wanna just automatically assume that this was a -- punishment. Up practiced by Bill Belichick act that. That you know maybe there are some melts on on on something -- impersonal thing and and Belichick -- that he knocked it down pretty completely. Yesterday both in the conference call and later on with a big show. They're not happy with the -- Thomas and what he's bring into the table. On the field. And name -- that pretty clear.

So they they bring him in debris and -- is Thomas. As a as a huge free agent signing. That and work out. They trade Mike Vrabel. Along with Mac cast -- the Kansas City. There's so happy with their linebackers and they bring back forty year old junior -- They. They acquired Greg Lewis then move on from Greg rose. Days shying Joey Galloway.

George Galloway is an active now and probably won't see the field as a patriot. Yeah you would think EU you would think looking at a bid he'll either be traded today. -- Especially now with you've you've got another wide receiver Brandon -- eligible to come off pop. He's -- our practice today they've got a 21 day window maybe they don't think he's ready at this point my guess is he hasn't been sitting on the couch the last six or seven months. My guess is -- he's been working out a little bit and by -- I wonder. You would guess -- at least I would guess that Galloway won't. -- make in the trip to London when you.

Yeah I would. I'm not done in the same draft in the same draft in 06. They move up. The take jet Chad Jackson moving out of a spot. That was used by Green Bay. Not to select Greg Jennings -- over the I'm just looking at it like I well -- and then we we talked about this before. Great game on Sunday by Laurence Maroney give them all the credit the world 123 yards great great great. -- I mean I don't understand. I know the patriots don't look at players the same way other teams do they don't have a different scouting system they don't always. Follow the pack which is commendable. But on the other hand. You try too hard to go away from the pack when you look at. DeAngelo Williams.

And Joseph Addai Maurice Jones-Drew and they know this guy Maroney is better. Looking at well are you seeing you bring up an interesting point here too because.

While that there have been heralded. Losses from the coaching ranks here in this coach is gone there and Josh is gone there and -- on their Romeo is gone there. There -- personnel losses. That maybe aren't quite as heralded but maybe should be Thomas to meet troughs in Atlanta you know you got guys. And -- scouts still because -- truck goes to Atlanta he -- scouts with them Scott -- Kansas City I -- he took somebody with -- when he went there today.

I think Jim Nagy was one of the guys who he took with them.

Now some of those guys were responsible for some of those bad decisions you were just talking about right but. You know that that the coaching tree you expect defections what are isn't played out publicly at least. Is that is the departures below that I mean yeah with the scouts are you do but I'm saying folks don't know with the scouts are. So when they leave you know it -- mean anything to -- any justice and somebody else about -- find that the next great you know linebacker in the draft or whoever.

And from what I understand -- there are some tension last year to over over Gary Guyton. -- Gary Guyton. A nice find undrafted find. For the patriarch. But there was tension because he was not drafted. So I noted that the scouting department can get it out on one hand you have this guy. And -- he's productive for you. But why why didn't we draft him and that was a conversation. That was had and at some point last year.

Why don't we want him now if you didn't think he was good enough to draft -- a bit but it was more of like the whole self scouting. The scouting department. What why why did we miss him.

Why did we draft. But that there are some quite I don't know who's responsible maybe -- is that the whole. Is that the whole group that's responsible. They need to go back and tweak. Scouting system they have the edge you know just like just like all of -- and in whatever industry you're in. Something that work for you. Ten years ago it still might be working but it it needs some updates. We don't we all need to to update what we're doing because if you don't. You fall behind you lose touch maybe maybe the patriots have have lost there they're drafting touch.

4 o'clock today. Will we see the first. Trade deadline deal of the Bill Belichick era. Even if it's a minor one. Maybe it's not -- one I'm the united I don't. Imagine somebody would take on a Dallas -- that compound. That's our question and I think will be for -- difficult for the patriots. Trade -- I don't know they can six sat -- just yet the cap that not a guy Galloway trade to Baltimore for instance. Peanuts is peanuts and and by the way if you're asking the questionable why would Baltimore give up some -- They'll wait for the patriots the way -- and then just sign -- problem is with the waiver process compete teens who were going to be. Higher in the pecking order than the ravens are gonna have first crack -- you may get them you may not get them. Where if you trade forum you know you get them and their marketing get a lot they're gonna get a fourth fifth sixth round draft pick type of thing and I think they might do that and you've got the stuff that Mike Florio has written about has been talked about earlier today. With the rams consider trading away Stephen Jackson and the patriots certainly have a need in that area if they were willing to do. One of the rams were doing I don't well we were looking and we look at it is contract earlier today signed to big money contract was six years forty some million dollars. You know he is the show off -- basically right now.

And I I don't know if that is like the idealist Thomas contract it sounds good on talk radio talk about. -- trading for Stephen Jackson and would that be great for the patriots but. What does it do for the -- salary -- Immunity to sign a guy to a new contract right and then and then you. You try to freedom and all those bonuses get your your accelerated -- the new the new team is not paying those bonuses no team.

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