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Fri, 16 Oct 2009|

Peter talked about if he thought there would be big names moved before next week's NFL trade deadline, how there is a huge disparity between the good and bad teams in the league, the controversy that surrounded Rush Limbaugh as a potential NFL owner, and if any NFL coaches are in danger of being fired before the end of the season

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  1. Antwan Odom15:41
  2. Marvin Lewis15:24
  3. Shawne Merriman1:14
  4. Mike Shanahan11:47, 11:50
  5. Carson Palmer16:10
  6. Eli Manning12:54, 14:20
  7. Terrell Owens1:49, 2:08
  8. Tom Brady16:49, 17:16, 17:21
  9. Buffalo Bills9:58
  10. Shawn Marion1:08, 1:22

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You hear that music you know what that means it's time to talk National Football League with our. Buddy Peter King from Sports Illustrated SI dot com and of course NBC sports' Peter and our. Dale and Holley leadoff spot brought to buy -- Mexican grill handmade for -- Log a lot of that they'll holly patron WEEI dot com to receive today's special lunchtime offer or text -- but QB OBA. The 645336. Hello Peter how aria.

Mike Reid -- and -- of the new Dan Patrick. You either. I do it might come to you and well thank you good to talk to your youngest you everything there.

Going -- still -- just. I guess can I leadoff -- to have -- all right now I guess that my first thought is that. I wish football is more like baseball where at the trade deadline there is a lot of hot stove discussions I mean we know that it's next Tuesday at. Do you have any thoughts on on whether we might see any big name players moved to by the deadline.

Like getting a bit of the guys who get the best chance with a name. The movie Shawn Marion and although. I just don't think the chargers are going to get a fair value offer for Shawne Merriman because he's hurt right now. And it he he's got a growing injury he hasn't been able to show the old Shawn Marion and I think because he was out last year -- the knee injury. And I'm sure that a lot of people have lingering questions about his substance there is. -- steroid related suspensions. For four games. I doubt he's gonna get an offer that's going to attempt. And AJ Smith is India offered it's going to attempt a lot of the other -- right thicker probably not gonna happen I mean it makes sense for Terrell Owens to get traded. Because of buffalo could give -- three or four for Owens he's basically our rent a player. You know they've that they it would make sense but. It ought to hold very reliably that the bill absolutely categorically here not to -- Terrell Owens. And that they believe that because of their success against the jets in recent years. They think they can salvage their season. With a win against the jets. Until Sunday. Now obviously -- losing go to wanna -- going to be all kinds of pressure -- to make moves but I am told that won't matter. That they're not gonna treat Owens with ten games ago. And I think a lot of the other ones that make the most sense the browns are saying they will not trade. Either Josh Cribbs or Brady Quinn the Brady Quinn what makes absolutely no sense to me they've given up on Brady Quinn. And it makes no sense for them to hang -- equipped. Because the only thing that this team should be concerned about right now. Is getting -- any draft picks skating it's much currency. You know very strong 2010. Drafted they can't but there at least saint right now that we will not treat went.

Do you think that there's anything to the to the idea. You know of of trades just not happening in the league because of the timing.

Or is always say I'll write it and I think Gail welcome here I've had somebody questions the last few days. On Twitter and and all these various things that. And you know -- park shows this week talking about this and and that this thing very try to explain to people is that. The reason the NFL has been treating deadlines so early. Whereas baseball has its so late in in football it's 13 of the way through this season. And in baseball. You can trade. You know two thirds of the way through these. And the differences very simple the NFL feels like it's sixteen regular season games. Our precious and even if the team is to win nine. They believe that they would tend to be some fire sales which would negate the importance. On the last four -- five games of the year in the competitiveness. For. Some of the moribund team. So even though I think it would be best for competitive balance. In the NFL because it -- penis to win nine. I've I've always that I think teams ought to be -- ought to be able to trade up to week twelve. And in other reason is that it pertains to what nine. And the most important thing on the air horizon. Is the draft the following year why shouldn't they be able to treat -- Pro Bowl linebacker. Somewhere. For a third round pick of the -- in next year's draft it doesn't make any sense not to but the league is showing no signs of bending down.

Peter it's sort of leads to my next question and look at this Kansas City 015 Oakland one and four buffalo Cleveland Saint Louis Tampa Bay. These teams look awful to Meehan and I'm wondering if if given -- we have so many of those this early in the year maybe it will seem more deals and mean -- imagine they assert their more bad teams. Earlier than than there have been in the past.

I yeah there's no question Mike I think in the 25 years I've covered it I don't remember such a disparity. I mean I don't know I if I were really industrious I'd look up the -- the find out. If pat you know entering week six. If there were five undefeated teams. And for winless teams I mean it seems like a lot to me. The difference between. You know very good and very bad is furious is extremely per ounce. But I just I think it's a coincidence more than anything else. You look at Tampa. New general manager new head coach. They got rid of an awful lot of veteran players there you look at Saint Louis. Same general manager but new coach and instead of drafting the -- mandate quarterback Mark Sanchez and they went for the long haul and the first two picks are potential left tackle a middle linebacker goes article Winfrey tomorrow. Tennessee know once I saw that coming I didn't think Tennessee was gonna be that good and I think it's because right. Just really didn't trust -- talent to be what he was last year. And then put into city. I mean nowhere has there been a change. Like there has been put into -- city where -- Scott Pioli versus Carl Peterson. Is basically like for you know the Red Sox versus the reds. I mean anticipated. Total different way of doing business both of money in philosophy so. All those places in my opinion should have been expected is that taken major step back.

You move to Boston and the NFL owners' meetings or in Boston I don't think there's a coincidence to of those things -- and I. We gotta have I would be doing a great those great planning my partner word even here. Are you surprised that commissioner Roger Goodell. Was as forthright and as strident as he was in his comments about the Rush Limbaugh inclusion into the Dave Checketts ownership group.

If you would ask me what I thought Roger Goodell would have said about that is is right body would've said. Work. You know we don't talk about prospective ownership groups. And all -- for all comments on that so yes I was a little bit surprised. But I think one of the things he was doing as he was saying the players. I've got your back on this one. And in the vast majority of players in the NFL I shouldn't say that -- I believe the vast majority of players in the NFL. Would have some problems with Rush Limbaugh I think he's just trying to. To say hey you know work work behind you and what you think but. You know -- the biggest. Thing about Rush Limbaugh has very simple. That the NFL you know as as frightening. As the concussion problem is that the NFL and and and and knee injuries and potential strike and all these problems on the horizon. Any time you hear -- distraction. Indeed it's almost in the same league with those serious issues because the NFL is very big on the -- we don't want any distractions and I can just envision. Rush Limbaugh being an owner of the team and the beat writers listening to -- show. Evidence show a lot of the background of oppressed group -- listening to your face something. Incredible that they go into the locker room -- say hey -- owner Jess said blob while block I mean for instance. What would have happened this year. If you went into a media can't practice and Mike Reid is going over to the patriots and he goes committee can't practice any have some very responsible. People. On the team. What do you think about Rush Limbaugh saying that he hopes president -- I mean it's things like that are going to make headlines they're going to make news. And I just think if the NFL whatever they're mean they're leanings were politically. I think eighty. And out front. Big time political. Disgust her. On the radio or in any venue we weather could be you know part of the -- article left is gonna create big problems for the NFL.

Peter you do you feel it's too early to be talking about head coaches on the hot seat and and what are -- areas you're watching here in in the weeks ahead in that regard.

Buffalo Bills haven't made any in season coaching change since 1988. When they dropped ankle from our Levy. I don't believe they feel that. -- fuel their defensive coordinators the next Marv Levy. So although I wouldn't be shocked if Ralph Wilson made a move I mean they're put into billboards up in buffalo this week. One of them says fired Jerod prior remote -- leaked prior guy which Tom mode Greg and John Guy here that cheap collagen pros doubts. I mean they're getting the same kind of intense. Pressured fired coach. A you know that that hope that a lot of teams are getting but it's going even worse in buffalo. I would I would guess that unless it got really bad. You know one sided loss to the to the jets may be this week if they can be competitive I don't think -- make it change. But they're definitely gonna make change after the years similarly. I think it that the insider doesn't wanna make changes in Washington there's no doubt about it but. I do believe a couple of more bad losses and he'd probably change it go to great blocks for the rest of the year might hear they hear the odd. Things involving. -- in coaching changes that nobody has really focused on the fact I'm just writing a little thing on this for Monday Morning Quarterback right now is there was that the air. You realize is that if you make a change in the middle of the season. And you bring in an interim coach. -- You have to do you can hire an interim coach from your staff and just make immediate term coach. -- but if you brought in a guy from the outside let's say that the popular one that it could happen anyway but the popular one has been Mike Shanahan. The Washington if you brought in Mike Shanahan the end Snyder would have to interview. A minority coach right now who is currently unemployed. Two. Satisfied that the Rooney rule and they wouldn't be able to give -- the job permanently. They would have they would give in the draft to the end of the season and then when the coaching search took place they'd have to satisfy the Rooney rule again. I have that confirmed to meet this week it's seems insane but that's the rule.

Is the giants game at New Orleans the top of your must watch list.

Does he really is idea. I'm very curious to beat out the giant. As I wrote this week you've played. Colgate Bucknell and Lehigh the last three weeks that's probably add insult to those schools. And you know now they played good team with a confusing. Multiple defense. And -- in great Williams and interesting I wrote a column and insight dot com that we just posted about Eli Manning going home and and you know sort of how interesting is that mean because 28 years old -- seven minutes from the super -- has never stepped on the field there's never played a game. In his home town ever his Brothers played high school games there. You know Eli is our patent plate bigger budget times -- and that he's never played in the stadium. So I'm sure that when he looks up and -- number eighteen. -- getting up in the raptors it's gonna be a little bit of a chilling day form but I talked to him yesterday about it and her one of the things he said was. He's gonna make sure when he gets there just hunker down and treated as much like. Normal road game back -- out to dinner and are going to be the -- nothing he's just going to be pretty much hunkered down which I think it's smart. And one other thing I wrote about with the Eli today that so interest thing. I've always thought of Eli because in his first four full years as a starter. He's been a caretaker quarterback. And now I he's kind of turn it into the end -- Because -- even his brother. Because if you look at this I mean it it's you know they real telling statistic I think is yards per attempt. For quarterbacks. And Eli has always been middle or lower in the packet that in the in this fixes. It out 6566. Whatever. Eli Manning at nine point oh right now yards per attempt that's a humongous. Gain for him. And he and Payton air there have peep in here 12 in the NFL right now in your expert have so. It's just I think he's had an absolutely remarkable year especially considering. That every one of his receiving target 125 or younger. So that's the giants are gonna be good for awhile.

I picked death three teams here Peter the Broncos five and no Bengals four and one in the titans' only five. Broncos Bengals titans and of the three which is your biggest surprise this year or did I miss one.

Bank of not only because -- afford one and only you and all -- ones -- play away from being private now. But if you look at it. They've beaten three teams that I think we -- think -- have a very good chance to go to the playoffs Baltimore Pittsburgh and Denver. And he you know they've let they let base there's three -- when their division to a vote on the road. And finally you know Marvin Lewis is always rented graves said we're never gonna be any good until we place that defense. They get Rey Maualuga and there. You know who's big you know -- parker Lewis this week he's basically cinder block wall he stepped in and played like -- to five year veteran. Antwan Odom gives them a legitimate pass rusher. And when they go from the three from the eighty. Forming a line. To be -- three -- line they only rushed three. He can BA. He can be a real good inside. Rushing threat it 280 pounds and they get their quarterback's back so they. It's a little logical but it just does seem weird to me anyway. That they're playing so well on defense and you know Carson Palmer may not be the explosive quarterback. That he used to be but I think peace. He's spec -- opposed to what he was before his knee injury three years ago.

Will do more about this later on because I just got at this week and haven't had a chance to finish it yet but if you go to WEEI dot com slash dale and -- But halfway down the page you'll find the cover of Peter king's brand new book. Monday Morning Quarterback a fully caffeinated guide to everything you need to know about the NFL there's a link there so that you get Amazon.com and purchased the book. I will say this having just begun this thing. That chapter you wrote may ninth 2005. About Tom Brady and contract negotiations with the patriots. Could be pressure and as this team moves forward.

No doubt about it and I appreciate the plug dale in just one other plug if you don't mind -- at Barnes & Noble at Prudential Center button on Wednesday absolutely so. So come on out. But and you know I'll tell you -- good things that was gonna mention I'm glad you brought that up because. I hope the fans remember that Tom Brady. And this is a bit of a factor is the -- Tom Brady once sportsman of the year three years ago. It's because. He selflessly. Didn't have to be in the words of Scott Pioli a peek at the trough. When he could have easily. Gotten fourteen -- fifteen million dollars a year. He settled for -- and not only did he do the right thing it for that long term interest of the team his agent Don eat. Many agents would say I'm not allowing you to take a contract like that. Dunn he doesn't care what it means for his future client list he just knows what's important. That this decline in what was import a Tom Brady is not taking the last dollar because team knew if the team won. And he he could make it billion dollars off the field he knows that and he knows that the patriots are gonna spend the cap if there -- players there -- gonna help so. Brady being conscientious that means is a good reason why the patriots have been able to state so good so long. Look you're the one other the one other thing I'll tell you about this book that. Is it is is cute but it's almost embarrassing in retrospect. I have I have one of my idea one of the chapters -- my columns in the -- Is. Is a column about my dog dying. And you know I'm not laughing about it but I'm laughing about the circumstance that might dog died on Wednesday and I am an emotional wreck. My family and emotional wreck when your dog dies it's been a party you're right every day for ten years. You're gonna be an emotional wreck. And so now that that's the same week at the tuck rule game. As the greatest field goal in the history of new England and -- army this incredible football games so what right do in Monday Morning Quarterback that week. All right 2800 words about my dog dying out any current member what I wrote about -- talk parole but. That's that was one of the things that generated. The most that's the most email I've ever gotten after a column. And I think 70% of it was all -- What a terrible thing your dog dying dog crying all and the other 30% were. King you idiot you -- even --

By the way there's no other place on the planet I know lot of where you can learn that there are 36 food items sold on a stick at the Minnesota state fair.

Yes that's right you've got to get this book that's another really important things you're gonna learn that thing I'll tell you one other thing you learn read this book. The most I have seen Bob -- this lab in my life. Is when he was reading. The column and I had -- travel though one day about. Flight I took from Newark to Providence. -- tiny little continental commuters. And there was a guy who had an immense flatulence problem on the plane. And he couldn't stop he wouldn't stop by elitist guy turned -- many said please. And they got out of its Atlanta what are you talking about what it tepid about that a pilot can smell it needs -- he's behind closed our.

That you were joining us at lunchtime walk. Out and get. It. Peter will tucked it next week -- out great it -- target Mike thanks Peter Peter King from Sports Illustrated. SI dot com and NBC sports joining us.

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