Thu, 15 Oct 2009|
The guys chat about Junior Seau's return to Foxborough and what impact he will have on the Patriots team, both on and off the field
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This is one of those those days on the daily dale dale and -- program you wouldn't think I'd have a problem -- NFL right now thank you your dale you did this is one of those days on the -- program where we get the rare opportunity. To re played ourselves with the old friends. You know some some folks who used to be on this program. Saw a little more regular basis than others right. But you know we used to visit with them quite often always enjoyed it. Through through circumstances not a borrowed making you know that opportunity was taken away from us for a little while. And and you know today we will make re acquaintances with a couple friends.
While I'm excited the first the first guy will talk to and the 11 o'clock hour. Is is one of the best baseball writers and commentators and analysts anywhere you wanna put -- he's one of the best in the country and what he does buster -- From ESPN espn.com. ESPN magazine. He's great former New York Times baseball writer. Tremendous from got a month Disney guys -- got yeah he's got great contacts. Is great on the radio. Really enjoy hearing what what -- say about baseball so. I'm sure you'll tell you something newsworthy. That you haven't thought of before that you weren't thinking about -- NLCS starts and I and he'll talk about the ALCS and the NLCS.
So will buster only will join us -- Lebanon to and we always love talking to him. We just continue to go with media people at -- it's just media people media -- media people. You know we used elect talked athletes but now let's be honest. You know athletes don't always give him much right but there's -- we -- for media people are now media people who don't really tell you something and who aren't afraid to does go forward this -- all hang out like Rodney Harrison. But not Rodney but it won't be right now. It's got play -- But now he's not a player and always media and media -- Tedy Bruschi will join us at twelve Tuesday and I I don't know if you've had chance. Teddy is writings and stuff now. On Bruins out and and not tell you what. He had a breakdown of the problems the Patriots defense was having with the wild horses offense last Sunday. That was so spot on and I haven't seen anywhere else. And the way he laid out the difficulties they were having why they were having problems with that. -- Josh McDaniels used his product knowledge of the Patriots defense. And design something that he knew would be difficult for them that to handle and it was. It it was perfectly laid out and I haven't seen laid out that way and.
Anyplace CIA he's he's really into what he's doing a good job. Early in his TV career. And anybody who knows. Just a little something about TV understands is difficult to do it's difficult to. Get all your thoughts together and and put it out there and you've you've got a series of windows anywhere from. From six to. If you're lucky -- five seconds. Is constantly. And and there are some technical aspects of TV that you got to think about -- and doing a great job or guy who that who have done TV TV before. And he obviously has the information. He's watching every game breaking down every single game.
Probably wanting more football than he's ever seen in his life. -- knows has always been playing and he knows what he's looking at so I'm looking forward to talk in the Boston looking forward to talking to room. As a bruise that you know -- to busters and eleven others say a rare bird and I mean a very rare. Always both a player and -- purse and he's now a member of the New England Patriots. We have we have marveled from a fall our. At the oratory of of Junior -- You know we have heard in the past you know I grad I I'm I'm I'm I'm retiring. I'm graduating and and we I graduated today. And we admired it from -- Now he's one of those rare guys who is both a player now right -- the media guy because he's got a TV show coming up in another month or so or thereabouts. But yesterday it was it was junior's return. To the patriots -- It was junior's return to you know the folks down at Foxboro on the podium. And and as I read a couple of up excerpts in the papers today I came in and I said to Jimmy as I got here. I mean it's just that it sounds so junior. And I don't mean bad I mean giant sail it sounds so juniors say out. I gotta hear these myself and and we pulled a couple of them out. For those of you who haven't had a chance to actually hear junior deliver them if like me earlier today you just read him in the newspaper. It's not the same and -- and and the first one. Had to do with -- gaps and be gaps and it sounds like all technical football talk. Until you -- Junior Seau. Says one thing I knows you can't you can't coach curt. You can. You give me be a gap on going through there are hybrid class. How we'll go through in the gap to bridge collapse. And that's -- The -- break glass and that's what I do. I mean it just it's as he read it as I read in the paper and now IIQ -- Jimmy said -- that he's talking about breaking glass got to hear him say in this. And and you hear it legal. -- I mean is it bright plastic case of emergency and -- sounds cool.
Here's my fear detail of these more suited to be a public speakers and linebacker for the known -- that's my fear you write my fear is that he just can't do it anymore. That that he knows. He knows the position. As well as anybody in history the guy will be giving. To a tremendous speech. On the door on the steps of the -- thing we learned that ugly yellow jacket. You'll give a great speech I'm looking forward to -- That the only must CT the only speech I anticipated more. All of -- that it's available and to -- was written yet about Ricky brother raisins yeah yeah Ricky don't have doubted that he was still good but he don't doubt. -- book report -- out just free agent. On the steps of the Hall of Fame but. They play the position anymore. I'm forty year old guy did them for the new in the patriot.
Let me give you one more and -- and then we can argue about -- I gotta give you one more he talked about you know. Did he actually missed the game of football I'm not gonna cry about cutting not.
Oranges and apples and packing a cooler. And going to fall -- it's my sense for board and dollars volleyball games and then now and home and surfing for three hours. And the tuna sandwich plane and go. There's nothing bad about. So I did not miss it. It's just as part -- idol. Like challenges. And -- for those those moments. -- for -- this is a -- in. I can't forecast what's gonna happen to give me -- helmet and work. With him.
Erica. I feel about it apples and oranges going to volleyball games. Football games you know one home circuit for three hours and play in the Youkilis I asked the question again. That's not -- guy. -- is ready to be a linebacker for the New England Patriots. Challenged it might be. A challenge that he can't he can't win. You don't want not to give you -- have a heart forty delta dot net -- mind for it he's got the experience for. At some point your body says. We've done this and.
Yeah yeah what what did you mean you know I want what your body says a man and a -- already. We've got to stop.
And at some point your heart right subjected to body can't cash right. And I don't know all these at that point or not yet I mean I don't know. But I will say this I think that even if he can't play a lot of football. There's still about -- having him down that.
But it's just the opposite of what you said about Pittsburgh. Is that the opposite about America. Then negotiate.
He's the captain of the team and and you know you're you're taking him from this position. Of you know. One of the leaders -- may be the leader wearing the C on his Jersey. You know being that the primary catcher and -- than asking him. To be a back up player and just Bruton and root root root for the R&R.
Guilty not ask him to root root root all you asked him to do is not ask him doing think he's a backup now. Yeah yeah you're not asking him to maintain a certain personality. But your point earlier was the correct point on Varitek and it applies to -- music sent out to. You can talk all you want but if you're not out their plane. It is tough to be. A he a leader. When you're not play --
I -- I think I think this is different though are really deal. Brady tells the story he arrived at 6:45 yesterday morning. Junior was already in the weight room and a full sweat had been there since 530. He was there at 5:30 this morning. And all the linebackers are all saying well if juniors here at 530 we're going to be here at 530. And Jerod Mayo was in there with -- and guidance in their wisdom and all that Pierre Woods all the young guys. They're gravitating to -- already they're already. Talking about watching how he how he studies film watching how he prepares for an opponent. They're learning stuff now lecture Hotmail. Is probably is driven as anybody down there anyway right and he's talking about. I just -- follow him around I just wanna watch -- do when I just wanna to be like he is and and and prepare like he prepares. Well if you're a young player on the Red Sox roster if you're up if you're jet -- We can't very well -- Jason Varitek around that's all different you know it's not a lot of young catcher. If they had a young catcher you could do with hat they don't. And and in -- our -- Jessica -- senator Martinez is a pretty veteran guy but he certainly can learn but it had a reputation of Arctic -- Soledad -- the staff as well there and and he certainly and and he's up in fact he's already said he has learned from Varitek. I understand that but I don't think it's the same is as junior. And and and Bill Belichick doesn't give honorary positions -- yeah.
Hopefully you know what Padilla guy a written form I hope we can still play I'm very skeptical. Thomas Thomas this as skeptical. Of this move. As I've been of of any move in the last you know two or three years the patriots.
Well let me ask you -- Michael what's the difference between this move and signing John Smoltz are signing Brad -- In other words -- got at stake here is money and it's not in Armani at Bob crass money. What's the worst thing that can happen while John Smoltz can't do and anymore he's got to go that's the worst thing can happen.
There's a difference John Smoltz. Activity and jobs Wilson have any drop off he was hurt. But it's not like out last year he wasn't terrible in 2008 no I don't know -- is still played. It is not.
And I'm -- Likely in today's paper they're saying that that the may be doing that again next year he maybe gonna signing a Mark Mulder -- shots and taking those the flyers on veteran guys.
differently you know Mulder sheets completely different than John Smoltz John Smoltz and and junior I mean that's that's that's comparable because they're both in their forties. Pink sheets is not in his forties and it and it could take a flyer on --
And it's junior can't do it anymore. You said about. It in in a worst case scenario you've given your young linebackers. An abject lesson in being a professional how to prepare properly how to get there early how to work argued you've given them that -- What yeah I I I -- we've already seen evidence that that's what they're talking about. If he's going to be here 530 lift the weights I'm going to be here 530 left -- whites. The worst case scenario is. -- you can't do it anymore. You gotta go and he's back to surf in three hours of play in the ukulele.
That that's that's the worst case scenario four. For May be juniors now worst case scenario for. I guess that the stay out family. But if your patriots fan. The story does get a little worse than that. Because as I said yesterday you mean to tell me you spent all this time focusing on defense in getting younger and getting better. And this is the best that you can come up with.
Maybe maybe after all their attempts and and harder efforts to get younger and get faster. Maybe the coaches said we did all that stuff. Oh we gotta get smarter. You know where Tedy Bruschi might have been a valuable member of this team in this season even in a limited playing role. It you know just in terms they are younger they are faster they are all that of that that they desired to be. Maybe they just need to have somebody who got. Well he said he can't coach courage which he can coach preparation. You can coach. You know work ethic you can you can show a young player.
Parity had that they already had that on staff and a guy who's better than junior -- as a as a better player like free poll. They had it and they shifted out of town and I don't men look neither of us ever understood that felt like I know what this is an acknowledgment that. It would -- and I we -- Vrabel around build on understand.
And I don't either which can't bring Vrabel back. You're not gonna ask Bruschi to come out of retirement juniors already hinted more than once that he's woman to come back and and strapping on for a few more games. Maybe this is having an acknowledgment that they did lose to many. Veteran savvy heads at one time and they need one back in that locker room we'll take a very quick break ninety seconds only we'll get right to the call we view. Muster only will join us at 1102 Tedy Bruschi will join us at 1202. Elena holly Sports Radio WE yeah.
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