Ken Rosenthal, Fox Sports/MLB Network

Our number three dale and -- Sports Radio WEEI. Every Tuesday at this time we talk baseball with Ken Rosenthal from fox sports. Canas brought to you by Rockies ace hardware stores the sweet spot for all your home paint and lawn care projects Rockies. Your projects simplified and Miami insurance. It's not just -- covered Michael.

It's how you're treated in the ninth inning. Two strikes two outs. Eric I have are at the plate --

But more or almost over and I promise where were another 67 years will probably be over the ninth inning -- on Sunday. At all that it seven years will be activated it and upbeat at the line. Weird playoff year with closers having problems closing the door is --

Yeah that had been weird and and -- that. It's kind of odd that Brad Lidge as hot as closer the put even as we speak. Given -- what -- but. In a short period in overtime. And go haywire. Everything obviously is magnified. By what happened with Papelbon is today. That was this -- more food and inexplicable.

They -- was a fluke is that the Red Sox scored two runs in the first two games and were shut down or or do we need to give more credit. Two to the Angels starters to their then they're getting here.

I'm open that was look at Eagles started it well but -- but operas it now what do won't want. That blow -- the bare essential. Two years ago there have been popping. At quote boutiques. Now Manny is gone and the poppy is really not the -- And while -- the dry it wouldn't. Even know very good time had come up one bit then offensively. It's just not it -- group and a productive then well and opposing pitchers don't have a difficult time going through that lineup one none. And it makes it different vibe around let me. How do you think that not that easily and I know already there's talk about and Ramirez. But my question that would be volatile ball. Want to know why -- I want to trade and there are beer in -- how much in this state but that aren't happy about it back.

Ken looking at at what you just described about the the lack of -- the same pop from Ortiz and of course man he's gone. At his end of the season press conference yesterday. It didn't escaped my attention that Theo Epstein have the following quote if Ortiz is our DH next year and then went on to talk about what he'd have to do to be better. If the Red Sox wanted to move away from him is there anybody would take him.

about -- somebody that would and they'd probably have to pick up salary. And the -- problem in moving Beirut he is that there are nobody you that are going to be out there. Well it has created. At the press like. -- Tommy who -- theory but Guerrero there aren't number of guys who. I mean that you need to -- many up until. So it does become difficult to. Move Ortiz under that circumstance. But to look at the roster repeated I'm. -- it on it and -- it signed. Not all at a bird and opposite he's almost identical in your book war. But these two guys that are not let it wouldn't want to be as he. And that would then be able surely won't on and a weather is. The Red Sox need to get worn out way. But lately accomplished but in my opinion of something that it should work toward.

You know to go back to something you said just a couple minutes going you're saying it -- you've heard Hanley Ramirez. That's one name that's been thrown out there and what with the Red Sox have to give up to get a guy like that well let's speculate what what they have to give up. To get a guy like -- America.

Am they're -- they're Michael. I would start that they would buckle. And it on the ball on domestic autumn after the on the top young mr. wear it well. And could civil what could do that immediately Red Sox -- but couldn't take it -- Ramirez signed to affordable contract for several more years. It would cost. As I have -- is has been paid a long putt out. So. Again. -- with the ball and moving it from the stadium with the seemingly. In position now to be a little bit more but both financially. I don't know why it would -- The only other than that day. As the one that might is that they didn't decide ducked out. In maybe -- they don't want to have two players under those kinds of contracts. Okay the better come now you you do that might not --

I can tell you why they would do it in this is that this is just that they shot up there I was looking at this the other day. The Pittsburgh freak and Pirates. Lost nine -- nine games this year. They out drew the exciting Florida Marlins think about that Marlins won 87 games Josh Johnson as you mentioned exciting. Young -- Hanley Ramirez dynamic young player like.

But that's not gonna last forever presumably when they move it in new ballpark -- going to be alleviated. 100011. Date or that they match up well.

I mean if if they can't draw though Kent.

It would Hanley Ramirez schedule in 42.

They can't draw at the ball and it and then well that hasn't yet but the idea of building a new ballpark eastern block better. And put him on the field that one -- not that. Now my right in maybe the way to predict that payroll going forward they don't want to deal afforded the million okay. But I don't believe in is yard with the trading Hanley Ramirez on port and when you have the promise of that pretended I had.

To start an -- is this that the started out their baby. Hey pac ten do you think that there's any way in the world that Theo Epstein considers the possibility in this off season. Of dealing Jonathan Papelbon.

Yet and I heard that yesterday. And frankly when you have a cataclysmic -- like it. You bought it where the patient is not a side it on the market. You all been in the -- and certainly brought up though -- And the question becomes -- the most viable commodity that the betrayed. Who they want to trade. In Papelbon goes year -- year arbitration preferring that decided long term deal. We go to or occasionally made a knuckle headed remarked that irritate and that's been the Mets got. Embark on the extreme there is eaten yet coming off the horrible performance in the quote you don't want big. And other news the book called him. You could get quite a bit I would imagine the top apple -- Yeah the part of it is their. -- have the possibility of Billy Wagner coming back about all the New York Post yesterday that is pretty strongly consider retirement. But while overrated will be -- she thought let out water maybe address the need your payroll. How Obama probably be to god do with. Nothing is going to happen but certainly it's something that it probably want to play. Think that at it remember that goes against the right and the picnic. So this year how fragile pitching depth in the Red Sox rotation. It is not dampened the bullpen and way. Clearly that go ride it though. They're not going to do it out at the -- they. Whenever pat but. In all the discussion that they have about the people who doubted and it goes -- I imagine pop the what you look.

If you were batting right now. Whose uniform will Jason -- be wearing next year.

What happened we didn't request you know. I was tempted and burst that they would not. But maybe. -- Not gone yet if they're not even born yet the Matt Holliday batted the way to kind of -- and the like. Clearly it happened like that out. And I don't know how they would do it it it is violent vote. By the day not holiday isn't great but then there. And you wonder how -- age. So. As we go forward here it's very difficult to predict what might happen. There might it would pay it did a whole lot more merit not in the end maybe that's what went.

Nor can I see a Boston nightmare developing in the east and in these playoffs. I see a look at a look at Los Angeles. A C a manager with. Great World Series experience and playoff experience. I see an absolutely filthy bullpen. I see a young star emerging in Matt Kemp and Manny Ramirez with experience and the rotation is good enough. I can see the Dodgers possibly winning the World Series union.

Yet bought a pick objectively. And it's highly paid -- the over the last night. Going and this Michael I thought you know what it is -- them that he did so earlier that he'd. There's the -- in the National League that invested in baseball. But going into the first round we hadn't and that's why. Now what do we know that we didn't know that equipment is back. But those last seven are the rigors he's been -- somewhat of an aberration. -- stuck in the Barack is really at one point 10 we -- We know that their hitters -- topic is that the Utley Howard -- in victory. We open -- that they provide at least one series with back crazy people that there. And even now they would gain confidence compliment that it -- a lot. A lot the got it -- beat the Cardinals -- hot but it did. And what I like about what they've won 2.5 they're very that he. But the rotation -- question. And that the would negate the impacted their bowl and particularly the mean and jumping on it starts. -- really well and number go to the wouldn't that in. Either way it now.

Can either National League team beat the Yankees.

Yeah. And one game to beat yanked. Out of the corner happen is back -- expect that. Both -- keep those in particular. I mean equality. Doctor pebble. Is a difference maker and now and then come around as he showed in the final game of that series. We're talking about that -- with them offensively. The collar on the football there's very -- the number. So maybe -- opposite is getting back level. Where was literally would eat. Only then did anyone again if they're right they need animal. Just more than it did you at all you would let them know what to expect this one. The ball relative issue against the Yankees but I don't -- needed in the world as it is Rupert. If you did.

Ten dale Marty asked you about Jason Bay what pitcher do you see out there what free agent pitcher. Is gonna have tons and tons of money thrown Adam -- to the World Series is over.

Not a lot is -- one available. And he will be the ones yet is he. Obviously the guy is that really do over the years after the injury issues but they'll -- heard a lot of good this season. Strong showing up -- this is expected to pitch well at -- He's got now is it worth going after him to the -- but. Europe is generally does not like committed the pitchers. Way it money's no diet or better than thirty. Thought he bat but they have some issues to address it. That is what. If you bet it won't -- I'll have to watch your. Maybe part -- my -- is something preemptive.

Our playoff umpiring assignments merit based and if they are how much trouble as Major League Baseball and.

They're not on our part -- And I don't have the exact movement on the you know by. Group. Umpire cannot work in back to back World Series. It's kind of that you didn't rule belatedly collective bargaining agreement but but the in -- back -- well there's -- no World Series every year if they heard what it is umpire. So there is some of that. In the collective bargaining agreement that include the umpire on being on the field. 1 other thing I am not that these routes that they but. -- will be good work back -- cannot look at it and certain L yet back to back. Working division series and World Series but they don't want umpires going to boosters -- like. But it also let you know.

But that the greater story here in the bigger question market from Mike Porter Sandy Alderson or whoever is. How many screw ups -- my umpires make on national TV and how long can I keep let this happen.

Loaded question. And the way the baseball that would let it is in the next. Collective bargaining agreement with -- umpire. When -- change the collection process the potent there's not much you can do right now and we talked about it and didn't play. I have to mr. about that yesterday did you pretty strong. So. No way to -- that dale is the collective bargaining with the umpire and I anticipate that it ought to be an issue that.

11 quick question for you like can we were having this debate earlier. Just -- that you're that you're the general manager of there Red Sox. And have an opportunity to acquire. Felix Hernandez. From the Mariners but you have to give up Jonathan Papelbon. Jacoby Ellsbury can maybe a couple of all a prized minor leaguers you make that deal.

Doesn't warrant government today. I try to you don't burn out. And in about it mountain one vocal that it short. Mean. -- on that. I don't know he could still -- and that does a great diet that -- and much more values in their mind and John Lackey. Younger. And turns on him -- is a dynamic eight. What they've got caught in terms of trade. Quite a bit I would imagine.

You didn't settle our argument but I like your answer anyway grass we always appreciate the time it looked at what. All right I said that if I were the Red Sox tonight and I proposed the package I said it would take something like Ellsbury apple line. And -- let's. I think it would take as much as that to get Hernandez and I would do depart with the reds.

And I said there's no way because you're not gonna replace. You you have an ace and Hernandez which is great. But now you don't have a lead -- guy. You don't have a closer. In India and it you can bring those and be if you go out and get those gonna cost you a lot by the time that. All the trading is over you're probably a little worse than you -- before he started training.

That's true and what -- their guys. Starting pitcher would have been the -- one better than Michael well. Michael -- and probably can be. Worked out only a quality back in the rotation guy by the trade Milledge and hand this year the.

Wow so have the package work Ellsbury Buchholz and Papelbon. Now I'd be a little more hesitant I think well I'm not there yet know that you could do it buckle -- Obama pop. Built -- up. Can we always appreciate double talk to next Tuesday. -- take care -- and thanks Ken Rosenthal brought to you by Rockies ace hardware stores the sweet spot brought your home paint and lawn care projects. Rockies your project simplified M Miami insurance because it's not just -- covered Michael it's hard treated dale.