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Mon, 12 Oct 2009|

Dale and Michael chat about the Patriots falling to the Denver Broncos, Tom Brady and the offense looking pretty average, and Kyle Orton torching the Patriots defense

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  1. Kyle Orton3:29, 3:37, 8:18
  2. Tom Brady1:56, 3:31, 3:36
  3. Joey Galloway12:14, 12:36
  4. Daniel Graham6:45
  5. Brandon Marshall5:18, 5:45
  6. Jabar Gaffney6:27
  7. Denver Broncos1:06, 13:01
  8. Laurence Maroney9:10
  9. Chad Pennington4:31
  10. Randy Moss1:23

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So the Red Sox game ended almost precisely. At the perfect time to take you right in the football and I assure you were thinking is. We were thinking in my family room with my family okay well this will help salvage what has been a pretty crummy sports Sunday. And perhaps and looked like that was going to be the case. Then the NFL plated dirty trick on the patriots they made them play a second -- happen. It would not so much upon our about the dirty trick with. Make him play the team and those uniforms that now we've already had this argument I'm sticking by it -- that's the worst during warm ever worn by any team at any level in the history of.

You might be the second -- on what is that is that. Montreal come on most olds who want to argue why I take that before I take arguing and round and out all the who wouldn't. You wouldn't want either of your life but -- out pretty Bratton. And the Broncos came out and outlook I think we all know after watching them yesterday. There are some vulnerability. There. What -- that team with the Denver Broncos. Unfortunately. Can jump on the defensive job on the office unfortunately operating are horrible in the secondary -- was not get enough offense could not make them page. For their mistakes which is. It's pretty amazing -- Randy Moss. -- Why meanwhile it'll. Be overthrown by ten -- And it have a chance to make me. Get ready mosques the chance. To make a spectacular catch ports to put a fingertip on the football not even close.

And and I was almost more frustrated by the Welker throw late. The one it Welker in the back in the back he'll wreck where as the announcers correctly pointed out he's got to that Tom Brady hits him in stride he's gone. Now I heard Tom talking about it with the NC earlier today and he's right he's seeing one thing. Welker seeing another Welker sees that there's an opening there he goes for it. And Brady -- I couldn't see the field as he was seeing it I couldn't see the opening that he saw. So he was thinking Welker was gonna dive and make catch for the first down and that's why he put it exactly where he did. But didn't it seem like two years ago they never make a right to say right on those things.

Right yeah Brady. Brady is off Brady is and in -- Any offer most of the season. I that there shouldn't be. That shouldn't be shocking to us but it's just -- fact. He had. He had a great moment. Or great half -- great corporate -- half he had a great what seven or eight minutes versus buffalo in week one.

Now. Don't really good throws but. I mean two touchdown passes were great right. Week two. Against the jets. Not so good.

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It was pretty good week three pretty good yeah against the falcons. He was pretty good against the ravens. It wasn't so -- yesterday. You look at it he has banned. His plate like gay he's played like a top ten quarterback but number two it.

Yeah high he look let's be honest the two quarterbacks yesterday were reversed. Kyle Orton played like the Tom Brady we know one of -- patient decisive. Sharp. Tom Brady played like the Kyle Orton we haven't known in law today an endless and let's just say this -- we've we've had this debate before down to say it again. If there's if there's one thing you wanna jump on the patriots about don't jump on them. Four. Letting -- have a good day against the -- good quarterback -- and stick by -- Florida quarterback -- Tom rallied on jeopardy he was better than -- Tom Brady but Tom Brady wasn't Tom -- yesterday so again I was better than Tom Brady but he is -- like he was. Brady like he -- is better than the Brady we saw yesterday. Which is our Brady like Japan three cents but but I operate -- how important is not a bad quarterback. People describe him as if he's I'll bowler or pieces -- not a scrub it with a good teams with a good team now. And and you don't ask him to do too much. That he has he's kind of like a Chad Pennington --

While this is one of those those classic arguments we always at least Iowa's help with myself and and I bring them up with you one. I never know how much credit to give Wharton. And how much blame might give the patriots cornerbacks for allowing too much of a cushion. Cause it seemed like in especially that -- royal. Yet it was open all day long and he took advantage of it all day long. And and I understand that you respect this beat Unix protect and respect the big play ability of -- receivers but when it's third for. And your eight yards off the wide receiver and they convert with a five or six yard pass I don't know how you can be shocked at that.

Well that it happened to -- yesterday but I I do agree. They were playing off them a bit but they had to you know the one thing about this this Broncos team and I'll start with -- Brandon Marshall. He's the guy who can take a six or seven yard. Catch. And -- and it's like a forty or 45 yard touchdown right he has he's he's nicknamed the beast as he should be. -- He's very difficult to bring down very difficult and he loves it he loves Simpson Josh began yet know how he does turn out like a mutual admiration going on there. But you know those guys. I would take to our Japanese on the top after the catch but Brandon Marshall is an Eddie Royal -- And and there are probably a little quicker. In the Patriot Act like the patriots corners -- giving them too much respect too much space I think they didn't -- wanted to make shore. They were they were in position for a good tackle. And not letting these guys. To slip away for a big games consists instead Orton to local what they gave -- what -- but you don't. And almost daily -- you gotta look at the problems that this team present and they and they do present a number of problems -- There's Marshall as I mentioned. The various who royalist I mentioned a major review of our -- he knows he often -- he's -- nine in you know with a game plan for. Jabar Gaffney an epic about their tight -- to. They're tight ends. One problem is a big receiver Tony Shepard shouldn't be called a time he's a big receive. And and and -- allow coaches and any and have in have a great game yesterday many made some catches but he wasn't he wasn't great. Then on the other side got Daniel Graham. Who shouldn't be called a -- and should be -- profits of alignment and you know a few times they'll they'll they'll put Graham and motion. And then have them seal off a linebacker. And he got a big running plays there. Or they'll put Graham on one side you're not -- what was gonna happen but -- from the other side. You look at one guy's a he's a pass receiver they're not gonna run over here look at the other -- materially as a blocker he's not gonna catch a pass no slip up. Like they did a couple of times yesterday -- catches a big -- No one has no one is -- for a picky that a block. They really do -- Have some complexity to their offense although it it won't we will never be confused with the classic Mike -- off.

They did not have an incompletion if I remember right out of their quote unquote wild horses sent. You know where they've got -- reflect off why does the receiver in the comes in motion comes back under center. And I think they were like eight for eight throwing the football under that set the patriots. Didn't seem to have any clue and they have the one huge plate was that with I think that was the want to Graham was out of that set to. They they they didn't seem to have an anti -- sought a couple of times and they certainly seen -- of the wildcat they have an idea of where to go on what to do. That little wrinkle that Josh -- in just seemed completely throw the patriot.

It's now according to the numbers is pretty funny according to numbers Tom Brady was better quarterback -- now lord and I don't know anybody on the planet watched the game would say 974 rating for Brady 967. For Kyle Orton but you hear somethin'. That we just got it would economic -- Tom Brady was writing for 33 yesterday didn't throw an interception to touchdown long completion of 36. The running game 27 carries for 96 yards good.

Wouldn't but not get enough and anyway we we gonna talk about Tom Brady. But -- them and maybe maybe Brady spoiled us in 2007. Not just of the fifty touchdowns and eight interceptions but with. He spoiled us with having that kind of season. Without a number one running back now and as somebody out of the Sammy. Who talked to at some point today on how to Sammy. Or or Laurence Maroney. Who get him. Somebody's gonna have to establish themselves as a number one running back I don't think they can can continue.

To play at a high level. With with five or six running backs and -- committee yeah well let's talk about Lawrence Small Maroney right now he had five carries. If -- care partners for 21 -- one yards yes. Doesn't sound like got a got a lot of confidence in doesn't know. And and on a day where you know you're number one running back for lack of better term. As had surgery and is on the sidelines we went into this game thinking you said yesterday and I agreed with the completely. That this would be a time where Maroney could really establishing what -- just I don't honors in what the story is more strong market let's say day in using your work confidence. Let's don't have confidence in north wrong.

Want to -- BenJarvus green Allison who don't have active if you don't have confidence in this guy why you try not -- what's. The ball and all of you don't have confidence and -- that it's weird how they use a minute is it on him is it -- it is it. Is it -- lack of heart out lack of tough missile lack of want to. Is an old school word stick with it. Myths that it would has instituted in this that is -- stick to it is it that way too early in the you have got to right -- but there's a I don't know what it is. Something has -- like yesterday.

He's tired out okay. What was he picked himself out of the game difficult to say. What you started out okay we had a third and one yards and one run where he hit it beginning at right tackle got the first down and I'm -- okay. This is a guy who's listened to the -- the voices listen to the coaches. You know he's gonna bang it in there and then lead in doing embarrass --

Is it. Is it -- Maroney takes himself out of these situations. Is that the code is that the coach is saying. You're okay but we think you left thirty yards on the field near five cares. Yeah five carries for 21 yards we think it should have been five carries for fifty.

Well and will never know that -- they'll never there it is but I am but it's a great why it's so far frustrated right now so frustrating to watch. You know usually they lose confidence in the guy you know Joe -- don't incumbent member that's fine -- to watch on -- He probably in the march. -- vigilant got to wait and watch double edged up. Apple I I will bet you all the money in my pocket what's bout that you know 25 cents or 75 since I will bet you didn't watch the game. I don't know I wonder too and a member of this -- just not a member of this team they trample. The weird thing and it's -- you know and I I -- Chris price talked about this on NFL Sunday yesterday and you know the possibility that there waiting for hate to come off the pop list which he can do after week six but -- at a price yesterday how does that help Joey Galloway. The answer is -- Not. In other night I. He's really -- get paid anyway Iraqis and get paid regardless so it doesn't help them to sit around. And and wait for the patriots to make it. Make up their mind about with a 12 with a roster that -- Joey Galloway he's just say cut me now he's going to paint.

One final note before we go to break and we'll get right to the calls and and this will sound like. A whiny little nit pick and it probably is. Bob Watson the end of the game yesterday and they couldn't Josh. Easy -- company. You need to calm down just that tiny little bit here Josh. It was a big win for the Denver Broncos they go to five and all. I'm sure they knew -- Josh -- probably better than anybody else how hard it was going to be. To beat a team like the patriots as he pointed out his post game press conference. That was a little over the top.

As a matter of fact just for a game and I got a phone call from bill calories that they'll mcdaniels act like he's been. Of all people read about bill cowards abuse there power wasn't as bad foaming at the -- moods so. It's. -- low. That's all that. Still not as bad as the game news at any jumped into who. Was never huge huge opted to have players -- it was getting Petersburg job to have players' -- like he was like where years boulders on the nod your head coach and -- a little.

All teeny tiny lack of maturity perhaps by Josh at the end of that and to implement and Peterson's. I mean they're they're patriots players and coaches and to their credit many of them did hang around bill says you know what -- catch later he he went -- forum.

But Josh was outside -- it Eddie Johnson outsider and I'm sorry brilliant -- jobs outside playing with its friends. Can come back in about 25 minutes or half -- About. Them on Josh. And you know you've done a good job with that team a very good job with that team would come.

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