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So what do you think is happy asked about. While the entire list Rex Ryan Chris Jenkins Kerry Rhodes. Who's happy is because I've got my. My guess my guess is the network that had the lowest rating of any of the NFL's TV partners last week. CBS. Likes this a lot. They're counting on this and -- patriots jets game probably gonna do a decent number for them anyway you know it's 1 o'clock Sunday but they gotta be real.

Happy this week. I'll tell you who's happy is Rex Ryan you and after play.

He's the one who's talking and he started the whole thing up it's like start a fight that instigate anti. And the step and out of the bar.

And that's the event that quoted you wouldn't let you.

And Andy's step aside and let everybody else beat each other -- I mean Rex Ryan has already said. -- tongue and cheek or he actually believes it is beside the point guard said that. They don't have the coaching matchup the patriots have that -- order Bill Belichick over Belichick over Ryan and Brady over Sanchez. So he's already taken himself out of the fight. Before -- even begun and they -- actually would actually happens when they start picking on Kerry Rhodes. All he'll be there to do with just put his arm around -- that's okay get a next.

Here's the problem okay -- to the patriots not do that stuff if only they don't make the incendiary remarks. Respond -- that stuff so will be here today -- do -- they do not before they well no they'll talk a lot after if they beat the jets. I'm talent in that post game locker room. Kerry -- name will be mentioned by everybody Rex Ryan's name will be mentioned by everybody may be Chris Jenkins name will be mentioned. They'll talk after but they won't talk before -- will try today -- that I would bet you I should.

I give you a little bit on -- I think Logan will. My bet my money my money is on Logan fuels is up now when we come back and -- Kerry -- can't play. Who would just not true anyway but. I don't negotiating and I bet -- he will respond he won't say it is what it is who's going to be ready to play our game. You'll say something that's mine that's my. Yes.

Is the wall and that they don't not only if they said not only did they not do this stuff they usually respond to until after now after they always respond. And that's why I said you know there they're not always considered the most gracious of winners out there in the rest of the country and we love it. Outside of New England they're pretty hated football team. The patriots are all absolutely the patriots are -- all -- knowing volume people I'm people not if people want Kerry -- be right. They want they want the New York Jets that to embarrass them to make them feel bad they came mammy all the outside -- New England. Well at some I don't know verbally but -- it you know you may be right. What do you think that's the case I think because they're so good and so efficient and so boring. And -- and a Super Bowl in four years I've gone and now well I've wired people are committed to another win the Super Bowl and then. After the game they always -- I mean as I said they're not the most gracious of winners. I I think. Out there in the in the great wild and wide NFL world. The patriots. Are one of the most despised team got a -- and I think barely yeah. Number two what do you base that. Just reading listening of folks the message boards and look at it with automatic and other -- in other towns that message Michael Michael I said. Several things before it's -- message -- you wanna grab onto that went belly -- I'll get a message boards and went out reading and -- reading a newspaper articles. You know read read the stuff that's written in the other cities about the patriots people hate the patriots now they they love Tom Brady. You know they don't like Bill Belichick now. I think at eight.

I think people people don't like Belichick and lightweight as interviews but I I I I challenge you to find a newspaper. Columnists outside of New York. Who has said. I can't in the patriots I hate them. All columns. When we were last in. In a Super Bowl in Arizona what what the national press was -- they're gonna win everybody -- are gonna win but by you know nobody likes nobody likes don't know. People love the way they play the game I don't I don't they didn't like belly don't like the team. I really don't I don't know I don't know Miami and maybe you're right ads ads don't. I don't know how -- come up with I don't know how I could. I don't know rocket proof I think. Most reporters who cover the patriots. Don't don't like Bill Belichick Belichick makes it difficult. He doesn't give you any access. It doesn't make it easy for you and then pull you aside and say hey you know. Maybe looking out for this you you he makes you earn it and sometimes even if you work really hard earned it is that a unity unity but I. I don't project is the leader of the band and -- like -- at least but but -- guys on the team. And now it's hard -- it before it. Some of these guys left before you know Seymour left in and Rodney and in Bruschi and brutally. And -- players.

It well I think fans. They thought it was dirty they thought he was a loud mouth I mean we love them here I mean he's you know he's he's -- and by the way we hated Rodney before he came here to. Then we love him when he was here just like the people out there hate when he where every as if he's not playing for your team you.

Yeah I shouldn't think about that much from the Louis San Diego I I didn't I didn't hate them. Didn't love them. As didn't didn't really pay that much attention to -- but as as you know I think it's they're they're probably two or three different categories. You know and I jumped on message boards because you're not gonna find anything. You're not gonna survive and a message board if all you contribute. Consistently. Is is perspective. In positive comments you won't survive. If that's public before. Our union is you're not you don't have a little bit as smart as and you. Then you probably in the wrong place so okay there there's a message -- category on on the view of the patriots and that's going to be overwhelmingly negative. There's immediate view of the patriots will not which will not. Bachelor the fans media people especially beat writers like folksy talk to. Simple. You talk to a media guy whether you are. One of the good guys like you know Tom Brady. Or or whether you're a jerk like Pacman Jones if you talk. You talked to a media guy feel like you and then there's a fan view.

It if and and it's probably him a moot point but if that computer worked. Over the -- in it and you did what I just did. And you just put in in your global little little message thing there put in the three -- patriots are hated. Particularly in the list of stuff that comes up articles. Espn.com. -- And what what did they -- poll of some kind said the patriots -- the NFL's second most hated team. Having picked a lot whose first. I didn't go that -- luck. But but it it just when I typed in the three words patriots are needed. I got 825000. Responses now not they're not all about the New England Patriots and stand. Just saying you know he wanted to go to get a few here and you go back to spy gate. Well and there are still people who are convinced. That their secret footage hidden away somewhere of this of this thing and -- I'm tell idea and spiky just sort of confirmed for most people what they thought -- us.

I -- took it to another level I'm not sure how hated they were forced by eappen after that or -- it during that season. Advocate. It climax and -- them.

But -- in -- and win Super Bowl almost seven. That'd make the playoffs last year. It looked shaky against the Buffalo Bills and lost all their guys. And maybe just maybe you know in order it is. Updates patriots the patriots as much as it is us while its interest to people they don't just this region. You know people -- that they they are turned off by. If you're not from especially if you're not in the northeast you don't understand how it goes. They're they're people who were turned off by the the style of communication the style of celebration. In this part of the country I remember when was the guy having Jeff Pearlman wrote an article about how. Everybody in Massachusetts. All the fans who were fans of new England sports teams are pretty much jerks. That was his take.

I have a and SI dot com column December 28 2007 mrs. The patriots are closing in on the end of an undefeated season -- and they did a poll fan nation -- and SI dot com. Who's the most hated team in the NFL the patriots won. I think. I'm telling out bear and it's hard because we're here we're in our little our little cocoon here out there. They hate the ST they hate these players they hate this coach they don't tapering they hate their coach that two they don't hate Brady.

If I have -- while I am I'm amazed by that I'm not amazed by disdain for Bill Belichick. But I think that's more immediate things in a fan thing and I don't think fans look at Bill Belichick and say. I hate him because. He doesn't talk to the press. I hate him because he wears a hoodie I hate them because he doesn't smile that much you look at them. And use it to -- you be like. I'm I'm gore backed -- to my fan days before even got into this business thought about this you know thought about making a living in this business. So. The coaches when I was drawn of the great coaches I was growing up word. Shocked at all. Don Shula. Tom Landry. Joe Gibbs. And Bill Parcells a little later but. Did I would do it that I have affected that I dislike the Tom Landry didn't say much. -- fedora and just was pacing in. Didn't didn't give you a lot of smiles associate areas the team -- They they were always exciting they didn't win as many Super Bowls as say the 49ers. But I --

Out of and when you're -- what.

Why why would you hit a coach who doesn't talk. That now I'd like in that was a different date to they weren't looking for the same kind of if they didn't want. Landry or Shula and it didn't they they were looking for great quotes it was a different media atmosphere. There weren't as many blogs there weren't as it wasn't 24 -- local blogs yeah I admit it it wasn't the same thing they weren't looking for colorful coaches back and Maddon was as colorful as there wasn't he wasn't even that colorful back in the -- wasn't yet he really what that colorful I didn't become colorful -- became a announcer right. I I just -- everywhere I look. Everything I read from here to there outside of New England most of America hopes that Kerry Rhodes is right.

When are one or players it would mean maybe they -- Brady because he's. These -- prompting.

This guy right don't seem to hate him as much you don't -- Brady act and his team -- It -- in my a lot of fans that they hate Randy hated Rodney I mean -- but he's gonna hate Teddy nobody needed you know thank. Com. I don't know you know I Laurence Maroney I mean Wes Welker -- Logan Mankins -- opened. Jerod Mayo will be happy to know Meriweather in July when espn.com. Did the poll the patriots got beaten out. The cowboys with a most hated team in the NFL the patriots and second. According to ESPN poll -- dated July. People are weird I -- sent -- I know I mean I'm and the cowboys and understand that either TO gone. It but what is it about the cowboys Jerry Jones I think -- people Jerry Jones -- watch in this morning on The Today Show he was just. Insufferable Q. -- hasn't been all my today showed did that Matt -- to the -- today show this morning from the new stadium and is. Mind boggling. I mean you know one point two billion dollars to buy something there -- accurate and I thou say to you this morning we're talking with the stadium a little bit. It's almost three times the cost of -- Think about Brad -- and we.

It Gillette stadium's pretty nice I mean most people do. They they they gave the greats that just to put you know the giant TV screens and in in the middle of the field the largest right definition screens in the world just to put -- perspective. If you have a 52 inch flat screen TV in your house and you probably do in the bathroom. I don't have a 52 inch which bathroom and a better but if you have a 52 inch flat screen television in your house. If you put 2000 of those together that covers the expanse on one side of the field. And there's a 2000 screen expands on the other side of the field. I did say it they did everything to access they did and and it as a said Jerry Jones a little insufferable.

As pretty amazing I mean it is a very impressive structure you look at that everybody talked about the partner. Hitting the scoreboard if you take that commentary aside and just look at the scoreboard. You'll be amazed by it is the best score board have ever seen.

Now they're gonna hit it about seven times on Sunday night and Jerry will continue to -- it's ninety feet above the field it's it's well within work both to make the problem isn't the height. It's the fact that it goes from twenty yard line the twenty yard line it's so big you can't miss the.

Damn thing why they cannot and one more thing we're talking about hated teams. I wonder if there's a -- on who the most loved team in the NFL is there anybody is thirteen -- of probably not a winning team. Probably not the -- people probably tired of Peyton Manning's commercials. Probably not the Steelers win too much. Fine I don't know the most about some pathetic. It is kind of pathetic is. Does anybody have anybody here it is not the raiders could you you know he's there they're bad. And people hate them for being bad.

The cardinals. Well if it.

Now on the -- now that's good question. I I would guess any coach any team that isn't coached by Eric Mangini animal find.