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Thu, 17 Sep 2009|

The guys talk about an incredible comeback win by the Red Sox over the Angels which featured a nice gift by the umpires and some stats on Sox-Angels since 2004

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  1. Mike Scioscia1:23, 3:21, 5:04
  2. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim5:37
  3. Paul Byrd7:56, 8:02
  4. Victor Martinez8:06
  5. Terry Francona2:47, 2:57, 3:22
  6. Hideki Matsui9:28
  7. Torii Hunter5:28
  8. Jonathan Papelbon8:08
  9. Jason Varitek7:26
  10. Kevin Youkilis8:04

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It'll happen at some point probably heck it could happen -- Somebody somewhere somebody along the line we'll call this radio station. And they'll talk to us about how of the official's job the local team. You know all while the officials at two local calls against Vince Wilfork and -- Thomas and were trying to screw the patriots are. Boy you know the the Commissioner of Baseball is not to get the Red Sox whatever it is and every time from now on. That somebody calls here and bitches about an official's call. I'm just gonna say September 60. Because on September 16. Who were handed a gift wrapped win by the umpires. Last night at Fenway Park struck out and ice there sharp objects being instructed my reminder that is at them the ball they are struck him out I'm.

You take it you're nick -- do you look at that pitch. I don't look at that Britain have to wait --

I wish I could tell you I don't know but but but you work. You were handed a gift last night by the umpires.

Would Ted Williams looked at a pitched the umpires -- saved mr. Williams and pickets at strike it's not a strike it every golfer and when I. Okay with a technique -- copper mr. Williams to mr. -- not know if mr. green of the strikes -- is not a strike.

I don't think we've gotten to that point out Nick Green notes that he struck out twice. Mike Scioscia knows nick Greene struck out twice Bryant went days knows nick Greene struck out twice. In fact you know what the home plate first base -- here's bill that nick Greene struck out twice not not the -- in a partisan. Well why don't let up -- look at these things afterwards by now he's looked at -- I'm sure they'll think well that that. You know both ESPN has their little box that they showed on sports center and it was a strike. NASA has the unique approach them whatever it's called and that showed little girl in the -- and -- and he's the guys have.

HC. Maybe the home plate umpires that -- so it's Red Sox and angels the Red Sox as opposed to Britain. What I don't think it's gonna end the game and it took me a little chance out of Fenway Park. -- Amazing it was again an and I it. -- still to -- crazy when it comes in angels and Red Sox who still think it's it's crazy you don't want the angels in the play in the playoffs even though they're better. The erratically better than the --

I would still rather have home field advantage against the tigers angle on the road to beat the and and I mean on the road and saying you know they have home field yeah panels -- venture I would still rather up home field advantage against the tigers I don't know. When the Red Sox and angels get together in the playoffs. It's pretty one side. I I had my hand and it's funny because every once in awhile to call. People who don't like Terry Francona as managing in and I'll Seau Mike solutions that -- Yeah that a manager -- there was Ellis and Mike solutions that are manager so we worked up the numbers today just cents Terry Francona became manager of the Red Sox. I was curious what his head to head record was against Mike --

That's quite that's quite an endeavor there okay. So these are numbers since 2004 -- and these are overall regular season post season altogether broken down ball okay how many how well policies and its its pretty easy to figure out I think in the post season Mike Scioscia has defeated Terry Francona one time. It is 921. Francona in the post okay. So 90% of the time when Terry Francona. And Terry Francona steam metal that was Mike -- team that's making a team thing. Frank on his team wins 90% of the time. -- 2004. Counting postseason they have played 62 time okay 62 times -- 62. I think it's gonna be a little more even. It in the in the regular season so I know. That Francona has at least 53 wins out of 62 and always got the least bit -- It would be wrong and on topic -- start and -- least nine excuse at all I have -- kinda. Crowded theater so okay ominous day. Nine plus.

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Are Obama to say he's 143 out of 62. They have played.

While it played ten postseason so they -- 42. Excuse me 52 they played 52. Times in the regular season record ten in the plan yet. Terry has a losing record against wondering is -- 25 and 27. Well which I would not have guessed either but they've been outscored in the regular season 254. Runs to 279. It's. In the in the regular season since 2004 now as we said you get to the post season. The Red Sox have a nine and one record -- ouch outscored the angels in the post season 6229. Overall record for Francona against. Mike Scioscia since 2004 is 34 and 28. And it -- for the angels 316 runs to 300. Much closer than I would expect yeah now what really sways this thing with -- last year they won eight against the angels in the regular season last year. And -- they don't playoffs and beat them three games the one that was sponsored.

From last year Mark Teixeira Torii Hunter were got a thicker line. They have home field advantage. Everything was all set up for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim and NL and I'll take even one step further the Red Sox have been outscored by the angels this year in the regular season series.

Forty to 37 in early foreign four against. And that includes the last two nights right happened here at Fenway regular season records Francona against Scioscia. Five and 46 and 43. And 36 and 41 and eighty year ago foreign for this year. And then post season three and out three in all three. So obviously. The regular season doesn't matter well apparently not as state in the in the playoffs and it's -- 2004 the Red Sox win five of the nine regular season games and and sweep on three you know 2007. They win six of the ten regular season game sweep them.

You know you know it's funny. That nine out of ten. In the post season is really is really misleading. You would think that the Red Sox have dominated the eighties. But they played some pretty memorable game in the Red Sox are just one column I mean think about 2004 how they won that series. Believe it was it was that Ortiz off Washburn if if memory serves up yet so they -- that they win that series on that home run. You think about 2007. -- 2007 we're. I had one. One close game. We really close game is the main game excuse me in the ninth when he won that one. HGH powered home run. There's no doubt about it and -- that's five. It -- a long way HGH whatever was some steroid cocktail. And and last year. They clinch a series and remembered jet Lowrie and an than Jason Varitek. And it's of some really. Great games between angels and Red Sox and just the Red Sox have -- have gotten all of the breaks in and won all the close games.

Got every break last night -- I mean you think about it. When when the passed ball went by Varitek I thought yet they just this is not their night when Daniel Bard gets the first two outs of the eight inning. And and gives up you know three straight -- something while this is just not their night. But every time they fell behind starter Paul Byrd. I mean -- responded to you Wahlberg try to give you one because that you you started Paul Byrd last night. You had no Kevin Youkilis had no Victor Martinez your closer Jonathan Papelbon was unavailable. You had every every reason every possible. Excuse that you could possibly have you still couldn't --

So you could lose that game let's go big picture here you could lose that game the Rangers. Were playing the Oakland days. Not a very good team not a good team at all a magic this just take it there they're bad -- yes. They lose to the days they are now six and a half games behind the Red Sox. Didn't couldn't take advantage of a pretty soft schedule to. May have this is a will with a nine game homestand. For the Rangers. A nine game homestand and they and they lost ground -- playing at home so I think the Rangers. As a said yesterday. I don't wanna I don't wanna write the death certificate just yet. And get a -- ready.

Yeah Andre I think it yet and and they're just give me just about yet I'd take a little. It is a little push and then they'll be regret I had last night was in and this is meeting itself this year Red Sox will be bell he's now known argue being selfish here. I just wanted that series at Yankee Stadium mean more than it's gonna mean. If the Yankees hadn't gotten Hideki Matsui home run to tie things -- in the walk off win. Back in the loss column and you start to think a little bit. Maybe. You've got like Josh Beckett chances -- against the angels close the -- it by Baltimore this weekend. -- Kansas City. Thinkin'. Piece of it I'm three back in the loss column when they go to Yankee Stadium the following weekend. And then then all bets are off that it which. Are you haven't given up on the division. I haven't given up completely. Item item -- cranked up well. The division if the Yankees lost last night they were if they within four loss column after last night -- item and --

Kick it cranked up. -- you -- get cranked up about it I mean that which can't get cranked up about is the Red Sox. Charging toward the post season they're playing very good baseball. And if you look at it I mean I don't care about the National League right now on here about the National League -- the World Series. What if you look at the four teams that you expect to be in the post season the American League the that the angels the Red Sox the tigers and the Yankees. In you have in you have to handicap the field. You tell me what team is the best one out of those war and to me it's a favorite on the street. Out of those fourteen to right now with the best team. Who's been who -- who has the best. Oh who is well positioned best position to go foreign policies.

I I agree with yeah it's just hard for me at this point. To say that the best team win you know they're behind a team -- an -- matter.

The matter it in the we get to the playoffs no one will care about the regular season records normal care who won the division. -- a while -- doesn't matter.

I I I I like the Red Sox and for a couple of reasons if if they would play the Yankees in the AL CSI I would like the Red Sox for a couple of reasons one. And I'm talking today obviously who knows what it'll be like three weeks from -- Today I think they're starting pitching is better before starting pitchers that they would put out there I I would favor over the Yankees for starting pitchers and that's. A huge. Proviso here that who knows what dice -- gonna have. Ralph buck colts will continue this but I like the Red Sox won in two the other key here and I heard I heard -- say this yesterday Lou Maloney says it and and black could agree with a more. When you pick a team to beat another team in the playoffs may be the single biggest factor. It's crank the bullpen. Because starting pitching in the playoffs lucky if you get into the sixth inning the if your starter in the playoffs you've done your job. And and generally speaking these are close games you turn him over to the bullpen. The team with the best bullpen generally went to -- you go back to the years when the Red Sox won the two World Series championships look at how good their bull pens war. When they got to the playoffs mean Derek -- we forget was that was bullpen pitcher. When they won the 2004 World Series anyone the ALCS game seven and won the deciding game for the World Series. You know it was bullpen and and right now I like the Red Sox bull panel -- and I know Daniel Bard gave up a couple -- last night gave up -- I still like a guy. Who could not throw 9900 miles -- our act in the late inning.

I understand this point but I still go to you. The top of the pitching staff I ice -- they -- yeah yeah I always start there and I think. If you really have an impressive top. You can probably hide -- your bullpen problems especially if you got one of these guys. Who can goal a complete game like Josh Beckett did -- seven versus the angels in game one of the series setting the tone.

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