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Mon, 14 Sep 2009|

The guys talk about the Red Sox sweep of the Rays, Boston's pitching rotation, and the Patriots kicking off their season tonight against the Bills

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  1. Josh Beckett5:53, 6:16, 6:24
  2. Jon Lester3:20, 4:46, 5:44
  3. Tim Wakefield8:42
  4. Terry Francona2:47, 5:52
  5. Dustin Pedroia0:24
  6. CC sabathia2:04
  7. Bill Parcells15:01
  8. World Series1:42
  9. Joey Galloway12:21
  10. Tom Brady16:03, 16:07

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You know like you once set I greatly -- that it would have to be on cable TV pay cable TV. But you -- to put a microphone on Kevin Garnett over the course of -- game and you don't just listen in to hear what he says. I was -- yesterday. As the ball disappeared into the bullpen and and you could see Pedroia. Make its way into the dugout. On that same show that you gotta pay cable TV with Kevin Garnett out I want a microphone on Dustin Pedroia after some.

Like that. I know it is somethin'. It have to beat deep by cable TV to can be cable. You know cable TV got to be more specific -- can be like they can't get it couldn't beat 3:30 or 4 o'clock in the afternoon had to be about you know 10 o'clock 1030. Run around on throughout slot. To really make it happen. But you know it really watching -- fired up about baseball yesterday honestly we want to -- Both. But. I was fascinated watching Lester yesterday. I was not fast one I was not fascinated watching baseball yesterday obviously. You know -- we do that it got a -- in the baseball and football. That was more fired up about football yesterday's surprise surprise a week one of the football season verses. Winding down the regular season Red Sox rays and the rays. Have just given up. They they have they have quit on the C I know you're exactly right equipped and and now how about this they don't they don't show their use. At all last year and win close games. -- days they compete in July. Before the All-Star break after the All-Star break. Into August into September in the American League Championship Series they get the World Series and apparently. Philadelphia's sets and out of five games that you don't see any. Bouts of youth if I can -- and coined that phrase but. Now you can see the yield of the raised they have no opportunity of making the playoffs and that quit on the season. Carlos Penn is out for the here like the minute yet CC sabathia pitched it Carlos Pena is finger that's it we're gonna just set. So you know you watch and a team that is given up they've -- eleven consecutive games. Now. It's a -- they've underperformed. At 72 and 71. Odd thought they would take a step back this year and I didn't think it was going to be -- three team race in the American League east hasn't been. But. I I didn't think they step all the way back to 500. And it they're not careful that opens the season under apartment. I so.

To meet what was fascinating for me what I really wanted to say. And I'd love to be an. You know your little fly on the wall thing you've got to do with the patriots yep I'd give anything to be a fly on the wall. When Terry Francona Friday night was asking whose plan was to go ahead and try to play this game.

By the way that that little. Fly on the -- thing. Yes Rush Limbaugh. Was mean little fly on the wall thing meaning in -- Sort of big deal and it's called the pick up my map -- don't rush. -- excited about a big game James bell Atlantic that a Russian news.

Well here's the thing and and and you know somebody's gonna have to answer some questions in this with -- on Friday. When you saw the reaction of Jon Lester after the home plate umpire says -- we never should've started this game. And he's 24 pitches and what he's thinking he's just lost the start. And -- buyers the ball out of that wall you know is he said -- into the dugout and I'm think innings loss to start. It took some courage on the part apparel and Francona to say you know what we're bringing him right back on Sunday. And he was a man on a mission I want to see how we perform under the circumstances. And he was just.

And believe you really think it's a -- that took courage to bring a -- to bring a guy back after 24 pitches in fort -- well it it's 24 pitchers in the game but -- you know. I mean hold warmup process yet you know what but I think there was something really interesting. And we should ask you -- about this to get some more inside they're so open interest thing you said. Last week when we're talking to him. And I get the sense that. Like tension is not the right word. Maybe a healthy difference of opinion when it comes to pitch -- US -- about pitch counts. If he gets a low rankled he gets a little Mike here we go though he's not a guy who likes. Talking about pitch counts a lot not -- understands. The needs of the modern pitcher and know what you have to do to preserve every pitch every possible -- and an arm. But I don't think he has a flat out pitch count guys so if if it's just a matter of getting Jon Lester ready for a start he throws 24 pitches in the game. I don't think Tito is one of those guys gonna say well that's 24 pitches plus what he threw for a warm ups. That's what we we can't bring about.

I think laughter thought when he went to the dugout Lester thought he had just lost to start. UP it was obvious by his reaction he thought major -- through -- his starts and he was steamed about. I don't thinking it was he went to the dugout there -- bring him back on Sunday. And I'm sure that conversation took place fairly soon after he got in that dugout in the clubhouse but. I was very curious to see how he was gonna respond and how we responded was like makes. You respondent like an eight.

Plus but but is not a surprise -- and here's the guy we've been talking about a for the last few weeks he's. He's pitched like the top pitcher on the Red Sox he's pitched like a guy. Who if the Red Sox hold onto this lead -- up by Ford now on the Rangers. In a wildcard race hold onto his lead. Jon Lester is a guy that you'd you wanna get the ball to for game one of the series.

You won't but you wouldn't mind you might I don't think so I think Terry Francona will start Josh Beckett in game one I think there is a certain. Decorum that has to be followed here and Lester I think would have no problem and if if they did that I think he understands. Value you've earned a certain. Certain respect level.

at any help we're talking about it and ultimately doesn't make different because -- got great relative pitch Obama wrote. Versus the angels Josh Beckett has shut down the angels in before in 2007 so maybe. -- in this case versus this team you would wanna start Josh Beckett even if he had been struggling even if they've been struggling for a month and a half. -- Josh Beckett out there because angels remember what happened the last time they saw him when it -- You start game one of hailed the -- 2007. Unbelievable. Trumpet as we we didn't even know we have.

Well at it and look we probably won't -- a whole lot of baseball but I did watch and I was on back and forth yesterday I did watch yesterday with some interest. I'm really glad that -- off tonight. And I think they're glad the -- tonight and I can't wait to see what Dice-K does tomorrow night. Because I'm very curious there 12 with three is now sentenced on the -- they they know exactly. And the three guys you watched pitch over the weekend they are locked via. In whatever order Terry puts the men that's fine or is completely up in the air I think they're counting on it being Daisuke. Why do you think three is locked and I think buckles is locked in as the third starter here railing and I don't mean as I -- I don't know what order absolutely their. There three starters that they know going into the playoffs. No no questions asked Beckett Lester and buckle.

Well that the reason I guess I'm just not as like I think clay buckles has done a great job and we've talked about it before he's the guy who is pitching like someone you'd you'd trust in the post season. But I wondered -- if he has. Climb that mountain in their eyes where they say okay yeah definitely there's no it's quite certain there's no question about it of course the question why wouldn't request it be. It might be Daisuke.

Well but again and I think you -- as they know three of the war guys are. -- and and they're trying to figure out with a fourth ideas and I don't care what order you put him -- that doesn't matter to me. I'm saying they know their their three guys are right now and they're desperately in search of that for. They know the theory. I am IP Daisuke I mean it and what you're saying okay and -- misunderstood you gotten under certain that a war I don't care what. They know three of their four starting pitchers are in the playoffs right now they're trying to -- round of the fourth. Proper. I don't opened.

And all I don't.

They also but the whole warrant on Paul -- Kim Summers Tim Wakefield. I don't think he's going to be helping and and and got level he's doing everything he can do and taken shots and and and and doing everything he can do to try to help this team. I don't think he's going to be the fourth -- playoffs either they know they want the fourth although before starting pitchers debate but I -- can get around to do it because they need it desperately.

Well but. Is is it's a lot. Less desperate than it was before if you're saying that Clay Buchholz is one guy's gonna -- in the post season. Then that's progress from where everywhere and June.

Jerk and a lively is -- performance over the last month month and half. And it has now show them and we got three starting pitchers we gotta get.

I -- it wasn't that long ago I know we we. Well we we overreact -- things -- you know things that we were concerned about that correct themselves we discount act like it didn't happen we roared over reacting. So. Remember the conversations right here. A couple of months ago. Hey they got they got Lester and Beckett -- that oh no no I don't know what they have stepped -- so now so now you view of Ide -- that conversation. To a three and we might be able to take to a four we keep talking we might say we got too much bitch.

No I don't think so but -- a six man rotation the -- if Daisuke. Convinces them that he's their fourth star. I know the first three are. In whatever order I don't. That that partisan part of my argument three of their four starting pitchers in the post season and outset the try to find the fourth. A big step tomorrow night is gonna come from Daisuke he's got to show them that he's the guy who can be that fourth starter before. And don't have right now.

I'm I'm gonna be honest with him ambiance and and I'm usually not but I am going to be -- compute that. -- let's say this. We get them get the music big game James. Worthy can we. Use the music for the obvious football league on on on the music for the W well it.

We go that's -- tell it like baseball the board. And fired up about this that I'm fired up about tonight.

Yeah I'm gonna pound the table likes it -- they would make a point. Ions to -- you. Bad the first game of the season.

I don't know what I'm gonna do after the show. I go economic clogged something -- Not out not gonna do something that it's gotta be going to be running neck got to be jumping -- lifting something.

I can I've run around Brighton. An Arab you know is there any kind of -- and the -- short. But maybe go to the Charles. Maybe a run around there. Then you know it sounds -- in with the good idea and you head that you're fired up -- you start that ran. Okay okay package. For only had a lot of my hair up only quarterback well what donuts for a quarter miles flown out. So fired up about Tom -- I think they do that. Tom Brady's first game. The patriots first game of the season. And I I know it's gonna be a good game where about a quarter. Okay it's a big game for about seven minutes to -- a series for Brady Adam but I but I am fired up about it. Lots of questions how they look -- with a deep it's going to be talked about this 3443. Things we've talked about the questions in the secondary. We we're wondering who the number one running back is going to be. How was Joey Galloway that'll let all this stuff me CEO versus the patriots. I guess that's maybe. Twelfth or or fifteenth on the -- but I am I'm very excited about the game.

I can't wait to see it I just don't know what's left to say about it at this point. And we'll find out if the folks out there a lot wanna say absolutely I don't think that they're I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody. Our listening audience who think that this going to be much of it. I mean as as adding John at this morning it's like the fifth pre season game that's what it feels like. I think for much of patriot nation well I would go to a park or go to fifth pre season game but I know what he's trying to say he's got to say that. -- I -- is not a good team and even people Bartolo. People about the little think this is going to be great matchup but. Just when you think you know everything -- an -- Season games like yesterday's -- Or yesterday's gains I should say. I mean Denver Denver Cincinnati game well thankfully -- that the reds own channel on Comcast likened bounce around little bit -- That is incredible -- right there that's about four and I get up and problem I -- and -- my Comcast but at least eight out of the reds own channel. And a -- little more because I got to be honest the two games that they were offering us early yesterday -- Mean they were NFL games they were real games sports games where you've -- Looking at at the at the television offerings for adults in these parts it was like. I mean there wasn't much. Competitive it's. A pretty good games though about I loved the the late game. It's at the -- game with a lot of games are really competitive at all.

Generally with Euro but. There was a giants. The giants and in Washington. In delegate -- pretty bigamy NFC's game a pretty good game. And I enjoyed I enjoyed watching the jets even though wasn't. Competitive game and it wasn't. They show everything I thought I was I was shocked at how bad Houston looked. Almost say is three people -- yesterday I had told you I don't. Yesterday -- NFL Sunday we tried to -- well. That the jets the jets are not a bad team. Even though they got a rookie quarterback you're not a bad team they won nine games last year. In excuse really brought it got muscle totaled did like the ball and yesterday you. Know what got it for this season.

I don't like them I didn't like him yesterday and I'd like the season. I think they're gonna take a big step backwards here. And I know that the Bill Parcells back -- you talked about yesterday and and I have the utmost respect for how he you know builds his team. Oh boy they didn't show me much yesterday's big setback is that we talk we talk in six and -- out and I'm here -- there were eleven and five last year I think. Nine will be portion of -- So you're you're -- more 798 Nate I'm off 88 or nine and seven of the two numbers for the dolphins I think and that's a step back and I. I Neil Chris price said he thinks Atlanta's gonna take a step back is while I don't I think take a step forward I think they just gave Matt Ryan. The biggest Christmas present ticket yeah well if they take a step forward. Then they're probably playing in the NFC championship -- might be they might be that good will take very quick break back just -- that he's in big game and.

I I can't wait to see it either and I think it's going to be fun. I just don't think it's going to be competitive I don't think it's gonna be compelling. Short oh my god look how good Tom Brady looks or. -- my got --

Looked like the Tom Brady who threw fifty touchdown passes which don't think he's going to at least initially Indianapolis Jacksonville fourteen -- twelve. Packers bears another close game last night as as I mentioned Broncos bad angles. I don't think it's gotta be close I predicted something really nasty and ugly in favor of the patriots but. We might be surprised.

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