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Wed, 9 Sep 2009|

The guys talk about a home run derby last night at Fenway Park and a great pitching performance by Clay Buchholz

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  1. Josh Beckett5:51, 8:51, 10:21
  2. Nick Swisher2:32, 2:42
  3. Jon Lester6:11, 8:38, 10:09
  4. Zack Greinke11:07
  5. AJ Burnett2:39
  6. Pedro Martinez7:33
  7. Mark Teixeira2:35
  8. best picture8:47
  9. Clay Buchholz0:19, 0:25, 0:35

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But as I said to John and Jerry a few minutes ago and this is a true story after about the fourth inning my twelve year old said that the you have to keep watching this. Because man it wasn't a whole lot of excitement going on at Fenway Park last night whole lot of good stuff going on a pure Red Sox fan. Great Clay Buchholz performance home runs.

So that you had to keep watching the game because you wanted to see if Clay Buchholz. Was gonna throw a no hitter employment -- not only threw it to. Don and Jerry at two c'mon the whole. Clay Buchholz has been going on tonight -- buckles is doing great things. He has -- given up I hit yet it's okay. Column and I hate when broadcasters do that. The guy's got to know not arts while it's too early even mention I think it should be a couple rules one all the broadcasters should say. When and no hitters in progress. They said. But but it. Our broadcasters should wait until after the fifth inning to address and no it operate like a Fuller -- third Aaron I'm Tucker port to still not it. Not get through five. Once once he gets -- appoint you have a lead now official. It could be an official game of rains suddenly descended on Fenway Park then you talk about --

I I think the holly rules for sports broadcasting -- implemented immediately. Because I'm in favorable rule changes that you put forth here's another -- rule and want another one. Do not make predictions in January or February. About what's gonna happen in September say mid September. Liked that to -- take it up throughout the year. The other when that I like a lot this is well he's on pace to at a 172 home runs out of that -- and that's a console over the top and so they actually enjoy it. That -- and I think that didn't work out for some idiotic wallets because it's going to be a patriots Monday on -- Tuesday not your fault right. You didn't know that things were going to be shuffled around not your issue. Maybe that's that the Yankees clinched the division. Didn't I didn't think it -- a -- that's actually outside the real -- their magic number I think it's around 1415. -- keep winning winning winning winning and support ninth -- matter having him all the time.

Have from people you don't really expect to mean they picked up nick Nick Swisher. And that was overshadowed by. Mark Teixeira in CC. Sabathia. And an AJ Burnett and all these guys. But Nick Swisher last night when -- form. A lot of people when games for them they got an incredible offense. That the question is what are they gonna do in the post season we've seen them with a great profits before as a matter -- remember. Arguing with the buck Martinez -- the day off I can't remember who because with that day. This is in 2006. Arguing would buck Martinez about the Yankees. And how great their profits -- And endured but believe it or not if you you don't believe me go back and look up the stories there were conversations about them having one of the best. Lineups of all time. In 2006. So you know but Martinez's -- is definitely one of the best lineups have ever seen in assets on him passing one -- about. Three years ago. The Red Sox. Remember the team that. Gotta match to 27 yankees that the it was a slugging percentage. And so yet they're talking at the line up and got into the playoffs and they couldn't pitch and I lost for the tigers. So I think this this yankees team that got it they candidates. But. We talk all the time about their lineup. What's gonna happen oh win when they have to pitch in the post season if that goes for everybody but especially the Yankees because people focus much on the line.

Well I will say this on. And and one thing I did get from last night as he said there weren't weren't a whole lot of things to take from a ten nothing. Spanking of the double -- Orioles. But the one thing I did take is that. Assuming the Red Sox get to the playoffs and I think they well. I'm feeling better and better about their top three pitchers now I know Beckett had issues start -- kind of see him turn the corner a little bit there I feel great about Lester. And I'm feeling better and better about Buchholz is the number three guy you have to have three quality starters when you get to the playoffs. And start to think they might.

Yeah I mean Clay Buchholz. You know save for a couple of stars as -- this year where you say an armed man. -- he's he's relapsed or that that's a regression save for those. He looks like legitimate. Top of the rotation guy there was one start against was Chicago when he give up seven runs right then there was the awful start in Baltimore. Where they scored a hundred rounds yet he still had to be taken out of the game because he just couldn't settle down they wound -- using more bullpen guys and they want it.

And he's even he's even had a couple at the opposite end of the spectrum where he's pitched pretty well but unfortunately you know. Verlander was unbelievable opposite him were CC sabathia was regret -- opposite him he of that stretch there where he was. He was opposing -- holiday and sabathia. Back to back to back. You always -- Toronto so communal holiday is -- is a problem as a holiday validates our example. But you know yeah a couple of outings they're interchangeable yet a couple of outings -- against Verlander and sabathia where he pitched better then the final result would indicate. The guy opposing him pitched great.

Let me ask you this do you think from from what you. Seen and heard. From Josh Beckett do you think he's the kind of guy. Who will be upset. If if he. Wasn't in place as the game went starter for playoffs it's a mess of the that the Red Sox have that luxury right now they. They can't think about that -- out their nation and the way they want right but the biggest out of their rotation. And and Tito wanted to put Jon Lester and the number one slot and then put back -- second. Giving -- it would be offended by. No I don't.

I really don't. Even when you know when he's not pitching well he's always there to take the heat. When he does pitch well. Or if he doesn't pitch well all the talks about -- the team winning that's all he seemed to talk about it it it appears that that's. All he really cares about maybe just puts up on the front maybe he's learned to say the right things. I truly get the feeling from him that what matters to him is is whether the team wins or loses.

Which you know what I would -- added as. I would look at it. As a negative thing if he did have a problem with that because most we don't want you want to -- pay promised on the guy you know give most -- do have a problem. If if there if they don't have the ball and the ones who don't you know it it's it's. Yeah you almost can't win in this situation we got mine because I did you know what if if he didn't want the ball then what will we say what you than what the right don't want.

Pressure -- you're right you're right I hate it it goes back to you know 2004 when you had paid -- shelling on the same staff and shelling deferred to Pedro. He really did in in verbally and now he may not -- he you know somewhere in the back of his mind he may have been thinkin'. Pedro Martinez -- I'm pitching better than he has but he never static never gave that indication. You know they certainly had issues despite what he told -- Stearns. But he deferred and I think that if if that happened here. I think Beckett would say all the right things. He would act the right way and and even if he didn't like it in the back of his mind. I think he'd say -- Realistically. How big a difference does -- make.

Wanted to I was just gonna say it doesn't even make it differently on the road either way you -- games on the road and it's. Even if he would've thought I'd probably be in the -- to still get -- here. Oh for the division -- I had no idea black -- I know it's okay now we're talking about the policies or focus -- the policies in place for Seattle don't worry about that importantly we're at Santa tea for us. Com. You're gonna be on the road and even if one guy has superior numbers against the opponent. What differences and you gotta pace and in game winner or game -- yup now maybe that your on the road. Let's -- Jon Lester has. The superior numbers versus that opponent and do you think he's your best pitcher and so far I mean I think this year is it's like -- best picture. The entire yeah -- Josh Beckett had a good.

Really you're right even when the wins and losses weren't there for Lester he was still pitching better than the final result would indicate a member at that at the Jimmy Fund radio -- we talked him about that. How. He was throwing the ball as well as he ever had any wasn't getting the wins to show for a for a while there but it's the EU could look at his stop and say it kind of looks great. Eight he has struck out 200 guys. You know he's been -- record a power lefty by the way who was the last pitcher to strike -- 200. Before. The last -- yeah. The strike -- 200. Why -- about 200 because if he's got a team record nobody's ever done it yet not a lefty but the guy who the last -- strike out 200 before him.

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Who would who would bet that I would have he's an artist and I told an artist who does things so subtle. He's so he's so clever out. I'll thank you very much -- was the last guy before last I'm striking out 200 guys in the season. So I mean pajama do you agree that Jon Lester has it's like their best -- start to finish.

To say well I I will say that that stretched from from the middle of may. Until very early it into July. Josh Beckett was on belief. -- he really wants Josh Beckett looked like the the ace of old. And and I'm not saying that -- it looked good because he did but Josh Beckett was otherworldly. I thought that that whole stretch there.

What well maybe maybe this stretch that he is going through now -- org or I guess it's fair to say the stressing just coming out of right now I think he's coming out yes. That probably brought him down -- absolutely no well I don't know what Aqua right now. Now when he was there from middle AM -- ended July. One he was asked. He was the case of this that -- was ace of the staff and he was pitching like the second or third best -- yeah absolutely. And that -- Zack Greinke. It has been pretty special volume that exact Greinke to Beatrice -- museum it's -- different conversation for different market may be -- city but that's what I think. Hitter can't -- place again I think Eric Gagne he's an idiot -- to -- OK maybe broad energy got a genuine Rodger why don't get a break its may be out there are. They even talk about the -- right now and I think it's all Ellis got the only deal and out there every interest in the -- they will look at the team. The got a guy -- last place team and considered him for a site and well given site in consideration.

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