Dale and Holley Opening Segment

This'll actually be a very interesting case study today I think Michael get will get a true sense. All of us says poston and listeners as as participants in the shell. Whether we are glass half full or glass half empty kinds of people. Because if you look at the beginning of the game and the results of the game last night when your glass is half empty. Your. Your ace had his fourth straight sub par start. By your bullpen couldn't hold things together after your offense tied the thing up at five. It is a glass and in fact it's funny -- half empty it's completely empty. If if that's the way you want look at -- for the full party or your glass half full kinda guy. There were some positive things you can actually take got to back its performance last night literally tell me about what you've got got got to type. Once you've got through those first two innings innings 345. And six. He finally started looked like.

Well I've asked I guess -- a negative type because I didn't I was up on -- now because you don't you don't. Use the apple negativity that's in this -- a look who's talking. Look who's -- I'd like to apologize to us as professional you've got nothing to say I. Now I'm not saying this is a realizable actually you know what that's it it's good point by you we should probably just dump all those out of the system. He can't say anything about -- anybody ever again.

We can't I can't say anything to his players is wind up being responsible and honest about this a -- chance of fort they went so negative. I was thinking about this yesterday and now it all makes sense. -- those who were around but you know when he was coaching the Celtics knew. That he had this habit. Calling its players certain things psychic if he would say to Antoine Walker. Use the screens on he said it -- me. You know penetrate and pass the ball son and I thought it was just that you know turn of phrase -- generic -- but based on this history they're probably.

Understand that the very tenuous that -- a tense relationship between Antoine Walker and Rick -- father inside could be an -- And all the time you got your side you have some some psychological -- Winfrey. Who. -- the father of our country Rick Pitino but but anyway this is why I'm going to end to -- 100 negative. If it's Clay Buchholz if it's a number number three number four starter. You say which you just said. You know the beginning grasping at positive began caused an English rocky and then he was able to see -- back together let's say that about. Your race now -- that's supposed to he's supposed to deliver. And and.

I guess I was hoping they figured it out that somehow someway in Tito talked to us about. You know -- catalog that bullpen lot of good sides they thought they'd figured out some mechanical things. He wasn't alone it the first 2 winnings and am hoping all of a sudden the light bulb went off ovaries had in the third inning ball okay. And that's one it sometimes we are playing all. Not that I'm very good golfer but sometimes all of a sudden you should start hit the ball in India almost don't even know what happened which is just. Not how it's it's happened in my in my golf career but occasionally we feel like you're really hit it and you don't even know how okay. I just got to do this I got it keeps you know exactly what you're talking. Yeah and I know exactly what's all of a sudden 325 off the tee is coming back to the right where it went when you were written to 9525. Off Petit. Which when all of a sudden you're at 325 again you know trying to nobody likes -- record -- among them. No one can tell people that's what I do but. Yeah you're exactly I've seen you like Miami tiger has talked about you know sneak in appear to Norton. Squeeze in a practice round with -- had on his game and a little bit and talk.

On this morning you know he's doing and I as a room looking forward to plan Boston but. And as far as Josh Beckett is concerned. Matt I don't know what it is now I -- and I don't think he has I don't think he has figured it out. And maybe he can't figure it out because you don't know what the problem isn't it. Out there there's some. There's some. Theories out there that maybe he's tired. Which -- just.

Possible except the numbers don't seem to back that up he struck out nine ice. You don't he's hitting 9394. You know a year ago when he was hurt you looked at the radar gun numbers and you knew we was hurt. I'm team when he's -- 9091. You say all right there's something going on here we understand. I don't see that the EU.

Now I thought they were gonna win that game last night. Despite an I I thought that they are right absolutely and and Terry Francona always says the most important inning. Is the inning after a team's course so you come back and you tied up at five. What does the other team do the other team comes back in response and that's kind of deflating and that's exactly what happened excellently -- yeah you know you tied up at five is that okay. Now our business in the in the way he tied it up. It throw wild pitch after you walked the bases loaded to the number nine hitter got a vote -- too. You throw wild pitch -- and Francis -- run scored I got out of that jam there. But you know it looked like the Red Sox were gonna steal this game and instead. Instead it allowed yes Evan Longoria struck again as that joke -- told you in the open.

I I I. The other positive and it's like I admit -- they're not much here but -- trying to grasp and everything I can. Matt Garza didn't look otherworldly to me the way he usually does against the Red Sox. Usually against the Red Sox I think -- call backs let's come back to the game and -- deal and against the Red Sox. He -- Pretty normal. We gave up five runs you know it looked pretty normalized.

And I wouldn't say he's pretty normal he's an above average pitcher but he's not that good. Having it I like. Your right I did normal II like them. Of the keys got in incredible stuff happening is only easily 25 years old. Doesn't have bad numbers. But if you look at his career numbers nominees. Is an above average pitcher. He is not some. You know perennial. Cy Young. All-Star pitcher Vasily let's -- threats are all those looks -- the -- they've made it look like a guy who. When he had it going and marketing but on on normal day you can get you know three or four rounds often which is exactly what happened.

Going into the game if you had said the Red Sox were gonna score against Garza the way they did and Beckett was pitching you like your chances you know. But Beckett isn't packet and and at the risk of of coming over here dark side here -- if he's not Josh Beckett. They got no chance. Come playoff time it infected -- not Josh Beckett. They might not make the playoffs. Another a lot of Afghan front right now I don't know about that I think they've got to have that -- in and and I actually think come playoff time you have to have two races. You have to have -- and and Lester I'm very comfortable with. You know 11 -- he's fine but back it isn't there right now.

I would agree with you on not making the playoffs if the team chasing the Red Sox was. The rays the rays were two and a half games back. I'd say okay we got a case is the rangers'. Michael -- now the next two to three weeks having an an -- race. I aided and it's a valid point and know what I mean. It is is is that a guy whose whose whose whose scaring you manage it right it's stretched. So that the Rangers are the team chases them I think they have to have -- against the Rangers. They'll come out on top if they have to if they have to you know widow -- down the stretch of the Texas Rangers. They'll play better in the race.

I heard some of the Francona second guessing going on earlier today and and I'm -- Not go to WPI dot com of the Dallas -- page of the best up and Brett. I paid for I actually agree with the second guess -- when it comes to pinch hitting for Alex Gonzales. Now as I've said about Terry Francona. He always has a reason any had a reason Andy he expressed that. Gonzales has been on everything lately he said had a double earlier in the game he's swinging the bat pretty well. He he felt that Gonzales was gonna get the job done so he didn't just say I just figured what the heck a lot of net. I disagree with him I'd rather of had Mike Lowell at the plate -- position and Alex Gonzales. I would have felt much better about now as you pointed out while pitching got the -- But I felt much better about Michael.

While in most cases and I still think Alex Gonzales is gonna come back to earth eventually. But I mean he had hit yeah. He had a double marry him and I don't. And headed for so lucky he's -- got legitimate reason I think in this case I have felt better having lol I think it was the normal Alex Gonzales. Then you put all their but the way it got to take advantage of a player on hot streak the guy's hot. Well and the guys and I wanted to have in their results want to pretty good hot streak. But get Gonzales -- contributed to.

Absolutely and I said I I understand completely his reasoning. In this case I felt better with somebody else heading now the other thing is you can't make that argument that sometimes gets made and as is ballot. You know Michael has today -- he has that they. Use them as a pinch hitter in the ninth. So they were willing to use him as a pinch hitter. -- I used to -- to face with the bases loaded in the.

Not -- and have a problem with that. And I -- also didn't have a problem with the way the bullpen was used considering what happened the night before CI I think if you got a second guess -- look at the whole picture. And and I'd absolutely would second guess Francona if the night before you had used Billy Wagner.

And John -- you apple you had two guys who were totally out of it okay so those two guys -- out to our guys were not there and now you're bringing and -- Ramon Ramirez bringing in Manny Delcarmen you don't like holding off on Bart -- he was your closer last night.

He was gonna write a guy who pitched the ninth inning for you last night. Or sites so Iowa I think it would have been barred. In my opinion if if if if they had continued on with the of the comeback that got them -- and had had pushed ahead Iran. Daniel Bard was gonna pitch and yeah and.

So. If you if you wanted to gulf port you want him to be. Out there you want him to be unconventional when it comes to pitching moves and he was unconventional the night before using Papelbon for six out. Then there's going to be some price to pay the next today. And the next day. Everybody knew it last.

Right kind of you know both guys were unavailable and -- he was gonna Wagner can't be used to edit and -- not yet leave it let's let's go to lists OK no no Wagner. No Papelbon. How much Philip Okajima have been out there. Not very good base thought the war or who wouldn't of liked it at all focus and are now we're going to.

I know I I didn't second guess the pitching moves they didn't work you know that old adage about you know good relief pitching makes a genius out of managers. If the relief pitching had done what they normally do it would refine the relief pitching didn't get down last night.

I realize this amid rumors so focused on the Red Sox. And talking about them having the best bullpen in baseball. You look at it with the Yankees numbers. For their open. Comparable. To the Red Sox.

Yet they've really stabilized things Philip Hughes is on a great job he's actually gonna closed for a very here for the next week or so Rivera's -- little groin tweak but. There they're bullpen has has really let their whole team has stabilized they're just good.

They've blown fewer -- yup yankees bullpen so obviously hires a percentage premiere they have. A lower. Opponents' batting average against in the Red Sox Red Sox have a lower ERA -- at least it going and that's thanks to him I don't know how that how those numbers have been effective but they're right there.

We -- ninety seconds away from trying to answer the the red hot question asked in Boston. On all look at this tipped Gusinsky just got fired by the Tampa Bay buccaneer. Just seconds at the double. That's your that's your call me there that's all I looked up and Adam chapters on art TV's great year Andy's thing that. Tampa Bay has just. Just fired offensive coordinator Jeff -- and -- Got to be kidding me. -- stuff happens. We're ninety seconds away from answering another age old question why can't -- it's your -- job as the personal and the second one is. I hell happens when pitchers lead the Red Sox and go to the National League will get to that we'll get to your calls Ken Rosenthal John it's as well dale and Holley Sports Radio WB. I'd drill core Michael.