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Ken Rosenthal from fox sports foxsports.com. And of course the Major League Baseball package on fox. Brought to you by Rockies ace hardware stores the sweet spot for all your home -- and lawn care projects Rockies. Your project simplify and -- a -- insurance. It's not just tiger covered it's how you're treated hey can I you don't. Well there are you know very well thank you Tom Karen from NASA is not filling in for Michael's last day of vacation tonight. Monica. At -- office. Let's let's start with Billy Wagner you've been out front on this story most will most ball long including I think originally reporting the Mets had claimed Wagner on waivers. That you reported it to 26 this morning do you ever sleep that he's not gonna come to Boston.

Right he has admitted to visit to evoke the no trade clause. And there are a couple reasons or. One. The contractual issues the option the offer arbitration. I'm told that the Red Sox went -- the audio option. Hello wolf what if not all of arbitration. But there's another consideration is well. And the other consideration was. Wagner just eleven months of Mubarak on the job. Going depicted apparently. In dealing with backtracked extreme. -- that you -- When you want the page 61. The quote -- it. He apparently the reservations about that. And it is you can understand it because what it with the -- over the next month but that. That'll be more control and fire. Of all the red dot I am certain would do everything to protect their particular and it. He's a good bet that. He would want the ball and it is mine is this is it the better way to go.

Get as you can imagine a lot of Red Sox fans calling in this morning and saying why can't I can't be a physical thing we're talking about he must be worried about the psychological. Impact of of pitching in a playoff race. Why why does he think the stress of pitching over the last six weeks and maybe in the post season. Would be different physically then what you'll be able to do that controlled environment in New York.

Well I haven't spoken to him directly about it but I can address that the more general and pitchers. Involved in higher leopard higher stakes situation. There is more restraint. And there is a psychological. Push that you go through this ordeal with eight. It is what it -- all of I don't think there's any question about that it but we thought about starting pitcher. And they've managed. It was seven innings against the Yankees yet they -- all -- all of those seven innings against the Kansas City Royals in Mexico. And that is the different. Cells are not wanted to hit it a threat to our great. There's guys that the quote is that I thought. Though he is the -- he would -- the pressure it likes the pressure. It's just that it hit bought any of the one -- made it's that -- come back on the job. While -- know any red dot that would they had wanted to more pitched well. It is more complicated that. We -- or complicated the -- doubt last year it more complicated Wagner now in the I -- followed that supported the people there. It gives the world yourself -- that -- so but the players do you could begin to understand where is coming up.

cannot put ourselves in Billy Wagner's shoes from moments 38 years old he's coming up Tommy John surgery. He wants. The Mets or the Red Sox to decline the option year for next year at eight million. What's realistic expectation for what he can get a free agent market.

It's probably -- But his whole goal is the -- is it. If you let the rest and they picked up the option is for the sake of discussion. He set up the Papelbon. It these days with the -- and hit -- that the option is that probably what. You would set up the thank you let -- get. Now he is right after these days short of org which is kind of for more -- mile it's just an -- more -- It's forty days short of becoming the all time they've been -- look -- the picture. 48 short happy dropped by. That is the that might make it all base camp at the stronger one that he is now. That we can talk about that -- this concept but again. You don't wanna let this surgery he's the one's 38 years old. In in my opinion cute as that big bright it daycare is on the way -- for the future.

Let's stay with the Mets and and possible injured pitchers Johan Santana reportedly underwent an MRI today it is not believed he's gonna need surgery which would. Needless to say shut down a season. Do you think that the Red Sox and yankees had some questions about Santana -- arm. When when the Mets acquired him in 2007 in the Red Sox and yankees seemed to shy away a little bit.

There's no request to doubt that they did. There was talk then about. -- all bought me about it pit selection. But it changed. It change to a -- some people thought they video over the issue. Now at the time. The book -- but. It sounded like an excuse. It sounded like the reason that they did not want to give up prospects that the but I remember vividly among both but all is that there was that sort. It -- it the concerted up within the stated they wouldn't have made betrayed a great step of the that they would've. But this sort of what it definitely bought the deter.

We saw last night Dan Jose Contreras not make it out of the third inning 600 runs out of the seven runs he gave up. I'm we we hear about Jake Peavy last night -- triple play a rehab start getting hit by a line drive but they say he's okay. Right Ozzie Guillen got a trying to cobble together some pitching here just to survive and try to keep pace with the tigers can pull it off of the White Sox. A good enough team to really person they play each other six times at the end of the season I know that but ten against the tigers in the central.

Tom in my opinion yet and the fighter the me are not anyone that the -- OAT. I looked up but the -- they're always order have it back if they want worst day. I don't particularly like it either but -- really big -- is the overall mediocrity investigated. Which is desperate 100. Final five this -- here. To me if the white but if he'd be back and it would simply be no -- gonna help them dramatically. He dictated by -- side there is still are that you might pitch Saturday in Yankee Stadium. But. Right now that dog decided it back it has spoke with -- Barack about it and he did not know yet what gates scheduled court date. So getting back the original but all the White Sox good. Always brought a little bit as well right now. Or you put together early exploited PP. That's pretty good and that there -- as it did you ever put Pickett is that a tiger.

Obviously get a Williams but we've talked a lot about this with them in town -- last night -- and the principles -- There really rolled the dice and he makes the move for peavy after PP originally said no to a deal. I he takes that Alex Rios contract in and tries to make Rios and impact. -- such as he put himself on the line here with these moves late season.

He definitely has but really about those -- won't be determined sensor failure. It's still kind pat if he had these players want over the length of their contract. Because remember the dog years with what he's got to admit it here. So we really you would you -- for now in new cute but later. Deep -- me is the most there don't factor in the day. In orbit they like it. When you take these kind of shot that market. About to let it -- better quality anymore. But yet very strong support the owner Jerry Rice or and that it is personality and frankly. And that observer of the team -- sanity. I while watching them operate that they always got something going that you don't expect.

Well let's stick with general managers for a moment and and you wrote today about both all -- and idea and Jim Hendry. The Mets and cubs GM's respectively and and the fact that they're probably gonna be allowed to try to unravel their own messes because they're under contract long term. I would at JP rich hardy into that mix. But I don't think he will be allowed -- to unravel his own mass. Are they gonna be able any of those three guys going to be able to fix the messes that they have built.

Well they'll want to what I know is that it is really difficult to imagine that the though that the and it it has stated it is possible. You should be created but when you have player expensive player that other is don't want. It's a wobble and just put the Red Sox beat you bet if you go for example they couldn't get values or. Now explain well okay but it is expected guy. Were -- and ultimately. They had to cut him loose and take it. -- but it is bad enough to what extent can do that and spoken to cup. But it is really typical wouldn't have multiple players in that situation. And network about the cubs brought. The net all right don't doubt goes off the table but the greatest. Is someone that maybe they should trade at a time ago now they wanna do that well as to what he's like issues not what happens. They'll start up but what you wanna blow it that the ability but. In my mind if other people. I think it is something shake it up and yet they won't be able. There to explain all the -- equipment that. The drop situation might even be worse contract. Buy you one but it can't borrow 136. But it -- Are not a knock. Welcome building 48 but -- Bill Bradley thirty billion. Good luck finding it.

You know we we we talk about the Mets and the cubs and -- through in the blue jays. When I look at those three situations -- the biggest difference IC is you've got an interim president probably get changing of the guard running the blue -- you -- sale going on Chicago. The one thing you -- I need the most is a complete overhaul in the management of the Mets and that's not happening.

Note Tom and people would regain its military to direct it Obama and I'd bet that that the -- coming -- keep it. But what they could do and what some people -- if they would do. Would either try to push Obama. I think you -- your position. Elevate jump it so this -- yeah. And that way you don't have to have a big -- chasing. That point where it looks like you're at least doing something. Now. You've got a situation where have a dictator -- disability better. Players -- that it didn't say what look at it is the thought it. But imagine if that I had put together and what he is not changing and that to me. Isn't real problem but then put forward.

There are reports that Roy Halladay would be wearing a different uniform today if the acquiring team would have taken on the Vernon wells' contract. I I don't see any team taking that contract on I also don't see validate. Returning to the to the blue jays next season and I don't see. Where over the general manager is in Toronto next year getting as much in return is JP would have gotten at this trading deadline do you agree with --

The great. Dell as the the well how they attachment. I end up early on -- trade talks. My understanding is that it was never something that -- to consider. In a reader they didn't consider what if you may eighteenth pick well long without I didn't want recorded a top players that. In the entire point of trading nowadays is they're going to do that once they get a package that would help that franchise go forward. It would going to happen -- a world attack so that he was never. A serious consideration. As Bert what happened the offseason if they try to -- they won't. Absolutely right. I themselves impact only once and it -- next year's. Where it hit the trade on July 31. Because it also impacted this year.

We talk about the Texas Rangers for minute because I always think those -- enough to remember that. The movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid -- and they keep turnarounds and who of these guys who keep on the heels. And a Red Sox fans -- by June and July and August kept expecting the Rangers detail often fade away yet here we are. You know as you close down on -- 3839 games left you talk about the Red Sox and rays played each -- six more times up someone's taken away from somebody. The -- used to keep hang around can they keep hanging around to the evidence.

I have my doubt you have to have it doubt because they're out of raiders. But thought -- best buy out partners and fidelity network today to give them my biggest story that most overlooked story something would do it tonight. It didn't -- the most overlooked story is the raiders -- They are both the league here they are third in rotation the okay. They are a little bit Ortiz because they don't strike out many guys and bad -- But nobody had to dump all the way which indicate that it is integrate well. But. But ratchet them tremendous job and while -- it's got built into it now Derek Holland are not exactly how old days. He is what has kept this team -- They happened it the way they wanted it and it's really interesting that there is this the district. Because. It just didn't seem possible.

Finally before we let you go on talk about Japanese pitchers for a minute I mean if you think just on the Red Sox between Daisuke. And Takashi Saito and and Hideki Okajima you see this deliberate. Elaborate double -- on Elvis is in the building kind of delivery. And you had a chance on Saturday deceit Junichi tiznow who is the exact opposite of all those other Japanese pitchers it's get it and bring it. And and Girardi talked about his delivery to the plate how quick wise I don't know what kind of future does Allah has but he's got a different delivery and all those other guys.

There -- right and I've noted that in my notes today. Not only did Jordan today but. In talking to Terry Francona he volunteered he just it would if I let it that the bad wait a week. It took it -- Japanese pitcher you would never expect that. -- He has the delivery that is. Definitely. Speedier than other Japanese pitchers. Obviously it how but he won't be. -- that -- Up blocks and it is that it is they want the pack it is -- all right bulk of people that is. It up but I'll put a number of war by voter you know what is -- about that.

Can we always appreciate double talk to next week. Take care -- him Ken Rosenthal from fox sports brought to you by Rockies ace hardware stores the sweet spot. For all your home paint and on care project Rockies your projects -- And by -- make insurance it's not just tie you're covered its high year treat.