Mon, 10 Aug 2009|
The guys talk about David Ortiz's press conference that he held on Saturday in New York and if we should believe what the slugger said
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There are very few reasons on a sunny Saturday afternoon to to make a point of stepping from the outside to the inside. To sit in front of the television for a little while but we have the opportunity on Saturday. When we got word that David Ortiz was gonna hold a press conference at Yankee Stadium. Saturday at 1230 I made a point of -- myself down a front of the TV and watching the whole thing. -- I think he he certainly did the quote on quote legal thing he gave you the opportunity. To have some reasonable doubt if you're looking for some reasonable doubt. But I was left very unfulfilled by what I heard on Saturday.
Yeah. I think you get a better job. Stating his case the Michael wiener did stating his case. And I understand -- Michael wiener was there. For David Ortiz. I hope he knows that. The players association used him. He was a pawn in their game and they wanted some information out seamless -- at any of these fixes this is that this was their counterattack. Counterattack disable -- You've been talking about a 104 names may need to change your number on here at Torrey. May it may be tested positive I can take it department -- at that -- three times. On and on so they're putting all this stuff out there for the first time you're wondering. One in the players' association said this before. When David Ortiz at what you said you wonder. Why didn't he say this before he very easily on Nick Adams first look at what exactly the question I wanna I mean anything he can have come out he could have said look. I can't tell you everything right now. But I can tell -- that it took steroids -- bought steroids. I'll explain more later the I hear all the things you've got this thing. I read all things that you guys are writing. And you're wrong about this I am not a fraud I did not take steroids. Comes FEMA press conference on Saturday. And I think that would bottom. Bottom up and dale these guys don't understand. That the the public is almost at the point where. Some police officers are. When April you'll. You're over you're going. Which is skeptics can -- had enough and important book on how. This that's rock but when you're when you're going. 36. Party step. And a 35 now hours. Now. -- give you warning but bigger things toward. It's such a way the public like that was steroids we've seen that before we part of before. We've been raised on and a lot of us if you are baseball man -- 22 years old you know really. All the people you grew up watching and cheering for the pollsters are all those are all steroid guys so David Ortiz and 2009. Says. Alia. I did take their I didn't think there were two years fatigue.
I mean appearances and everything I understand that but it seems to be there's a certain decorum and Paul and David Ortiz. You know dressed like that's important it's. Michael -- looked like he got dragged out of the backyard Barbeque and show up and defend its client it was it was embarrassing. That this is the legal counsel for the Major League Baseball Players Association that's -- it was back then the Major League Baseball Players Association. And he can't be bothered to -- hair looks like he just got a chopper. -- you -- traffic report that probably had actually given what happened over the weekend I should use that but you know I mean the -- on -- east disheveled. I -- believe anything this guy says and I understand sometimes appearances are over rated. Talk about a pretty important thing you know this is this is pretty important stuff. And and -- got a -- the exact question I wanted to answer and you say -- ten days ago all that was left with another question I want -- When this in New York concept. Why Saturday why and what it's just one Michael Weiner could get away from the barbecue -- to show up it was just -- minute then waited.
It was there plan. Like today I opened -- today. I don't know I don't know -- Ask -- That this is why at times the players association. Four players. They they don't. Understand what everyday people in America think about that on him everyday people want. If you're accused of something and David Ortiz that they got. If you're accused of something. Then go out there and attack it is -- something. For the players association -- David Ortiz now hold off right now. For David Ortiz to listen what was really it was it was a bad thing for both parties.
You know what you don't want. Michael -- leaning over whispering in David Ortiz is a year before answers anyway why not an or an hour or a credit -- an apartment that opera don't basically -- whatever I mean. -- What you look like you'll like a lawyer for guilty -- That's what you look.
I'm not I'm not sure. What I think of this whole thing to do I believe. David lord -- I believed that things I believe the words that came out of David Ortiz this -- But then there's a lot that he didn't answer he even address everything.
at and I did and I expect and I believe that he took some tainted supplements back in the day absolutely. -- a lot of guys consumers are actually here in the Dominican I think there was a lot of supplements that are tainted and manic.
I don't believe. That he doesn't remember what it's a tough but once again. Where the point. And that's where the players association is missing it we're at the point. Where an admission. It's not gonna kill you forever it just won't. But the net effect what you did Saturday continues to drag the -- the next guy. Who is on that list because there will be morally and I was on that list of these cannot say. Yes I'm not gonna tell you everything you want to hear. You wanted to come out they will we keep change in the game to. -- and we want them to be just come out beyond assay which you to. And then they do that well he did that but there wasn't any remorse. Some guys are gonna be remorse it. So guys understand that if they didn't take it. Whether we like it or not if they didn't take it they would have been a Major League Baseball they wouldn't have made millions of dollars so I just wanna got to come and say yes. I took it it was. It was illegal in the country based -- tests may. I wanted to see how much it get away with. I want to stay in this game. Provide -- living for myself and my family and I did that.
Here's what -- and year old left him to come to your own conclusion based on what you heard what you saw. I believe him when he says he never injected steroids I believe. But in the Dominican you don't have to. You walk into a store and buys up off the counter specially back in 2003. You can buy stuff off the counter that they want -- bring into this country as well -- says. Well Carroll was in the Dominican is on this morning with the NC he was the Dominican. This past winner. He said and it was stop -- walked in by stop all the dollar in places but I couldn't bring in the United States of America. He took -- back then okay I find that I understand. I mean that a ticket -- inject himself with steroids and he didn't say that late tonight and takes it takes directed and by amber didn't make. IE the one he took supplements. He took stock. Off the collar in in stores in the Dominican that Angel was was designed to do exactly what he got out like a baseball player. Make the ball harder making the ball partner he got what he was looking for he got the ball he was looking for out of taking it. Like you said okay with that we we we know I believe him that he hasn't -- steroid test in the last six years. I believe that he hasn't flunked test. But as of may -- we know feet yet.
You know one what it all means is. That is something that happened 6 years ago and am more concerned about David Ortiz today. The player that he is where the player that he's not. I said this last we -- our viewers you agree with this I think this is his last year's arrests. I I would not be of -- I think David Ortiz. That has come to and the line as a Boston -- I mean you think nobody's got one more year left in -- contract. And then after that there's a club option. -- This eliminate the club option right now the wraps -- there's no way -- how you pick up the club option. And I and I know -- you know I hate to say this you know David Ortiz has been great for for this region for this franchise on and on some great stuff. But look at the performance. And -- think that there will be a bounce back.
we saw the bounce back. And then we bounced back from the bounced back I mean. The regression now now you may be that that David Ortiz and his situation is not had an adverse effect on this team. It's absolutely in my opinion and at birth defect adverse affect on him Ortiz. I mean he is a shadow of --
I'm not that he could even afford to be in that position -- even if everything's going well. We never hear about the other Mike Smith from the New York Times up the Hall of Fame their basement we never hear about his story. David Ortiz still. Is life and death with with 245 to fifty. And now since we heard about the stories that you that took twenty -- at a couple home runs right after the story broke and since that time he hasn't done anything.
Not an exaggeration and got out and well once you guys have done Clinton not been but it's. You know. I don't know what I don't know what is left for him. Of them playing out the string for this year like him more -- like that are designated for assignment they're not. I don't know -- much plan.
And they and the answer to this is so obvious that I'm not gonna waste the proper funerals poll question on it. What kind of responsibly get at the ballpark you know campers are going to ballpark a roll -- yeah overwhelming positive. -- negative people in the media use negative and you're not real Red Sox fans we support -- poppy it was a long time ago one it's the same thing. That we criticize other communities for doing. Will do the same thing. Because they look at it the same way most fans the -- He's our guy. Yeah we'll make excuses form will rationalize. Will figure out a way that he's different than the other -- Well hey David Ortiz is ours now. Manny Ramirez's there are so poppy is different than Manny premier poppy is different than Barry Bonds and poppy is different than Sammy Sosa. He's even different than Andy -- and Alex boundaries now. Not really. I really they they all did something they give themselves an advantage.
And they did at all for the saint Marie they ought to. We we know why they were doing it you know whether it was enough appeal but he took over the counter or protein shaker. And I know he has lumped in vitamins and supplements. Because when he was -- GE NC buying the supplements he was buying vitamins as well people get all caught up in that like somehow he's trying to say that he got it taking vitamins. It's not what he was saying all we know what he was saying. And and unfortunately. He in the rest of this team are and a death spiral right now.
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