Mon, 10 Aug 2009|
Dale and Michael talk about a devastating sweep in the Bronx as the Red Sox look lifeless at Yankee Stadium
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Like a light for a couple of days I don't ask for much -- leave you with a simple agenda. You know -- practice this thing up if you can help but I get back up the team in somewhat the same position as one -- golf. Can I trust this null. Hell happened while I was gone for a week. But the simple and I. Are now maybe -- that I mobilize. -- regard -- the and year. I mean it. Lastly Obama okay that I England week. And the the habit and the important part of it is wherever I -- I could listen to. Ambler amber and -- I'm less than on 105 point five right here accompanying great. I Newport -- a three point seven accompanying great -- out a -- 96 point three economy rate. I can't -- it's like -- can anything else here this week. One thing after. Ortiz will not talk what's he gonna say. And -- team -- its. -- Was the week from -- sports and in doing.
Let her show call is so called the worst week -- The show called the worst week ever and -- I think there is so. Anyway that the show -- on us and Tom Warner did on it and it is. It is the Red Sox story this is. Probably the worst week. It Terry Francona has that that's it that's it says 2006 -- even last year 2000 Manny. And his and -- episode. Probably not as bad because it was just one thing it would guy one guy. At 2006 -- a lot of things happening Jon Lester diagnosed with cancer right Jonathan Papelbon shoulder. Popping out of its -- Jason Varitek heard. -- I'm in the open Christian I think yeah yeah yeah. Hobby of Lopez. Got the problems that but now. You know you have. Games winnable games. The Red Sox don't win I mean think about that series in new York and get swept. Answers -- they don't score offer from -- thirty innings but outside of game one. 8828 of these games. It was not a winnable game. All of war I mean the pitcher pitched real. Especially last three Clay Buchholz pitched well one mr. Buckley buckles and that's not good matchup he pitched well Jon Lester last night. Pitched well Josh Beckett pitched very well do you know what bothers -- Morton anything you know. Is losing. A game in which he pitched pasting AJ Burnett. I don't know either guy will go on the record in and talk about it but it -- it is on the beyond Curt Schilling Pedro Martinez which is the real deal here. You know -- vocal out expressive more than usual. Josh Beckett was on Friday night. And -- when he -- game he was out there in the dugout. You know screaming support if teammate but it was just it was a very strange week and it's actually the last four games were particularly weird.
How much of what's going on the futility that we've all witnessed here over the last week. How much of this it's traced back to the problems that David Ortiz space very little while and I wonder because I that would have been my answer initially as well. And and then you go backing a look at it and and I've never seen anything quite like this offensively. Over this six game losing streak you know the Red Sox are hitting as a team. 178. There are leading hitter over this six game stretch is Jason Bay he only played in two of them of the six games he's hitting 250. I mean Pedroia at 240 Ellsbury to 33. Victor Martinez to 31 lesson some of these you'll coolest -- seventeenth. Lol 154. Ortiz old 56 Varitek all fifty.
While you say how much of it goes back Ortiz -- Ortiz -- numbers believe that the Red Sox went through a thirty something inning scoreless streak because of David court.
I is you know I don't make an obvious I don't know yet she's an and I and well you know me ask you I know that there's been some. What's the right ports and distraction going on here I mean there's stuff going on. Beyond the normal balls and strikes and and and playing now they got what you guys hurt I don't know how -- team knows what not line up to answer every day.
This is why that's why don't think it it really hasn't been there Ortiz with a the other team and they went fifteen innings without around. All problem. What about the Yankees excuse they were distracted by David Ortiz as well know down on me elevate.
They got shut down by by of berry berry good starting -- start out by and -- an entire team and they get a bunch -- guys in the bullpen who. Normally have been pretty good this year at cattle stretch your lately where things haven't always work out.
You look at it okay so that -- eighteen inning game A-Rod wind that. Knox Knox when an -- is now. Then the next day CC sabathia is drawing a great game a no hitter through five. And right across from across and and the kid Clay Buchholz is doing his thing to an end and the Yankees and I -- Iran's late and win it five zip. But it's not like they had an easy time scoring runs in that game -- last night you've got the Red Sox weren't pretty good shape. You know you got a 21 lead off of a two run homer by Victor Martinez you're all happy you got Daniel -- a game there two routes. One more out turn this thing over to Papelbon simulator you salvage one game in the four game series. And then they explode again so. It's not like the Yankees. This was not. You historians. You use cynics out there this is not 1978 this is not the massacre The Boston Massacre in the Yankees game and and outscored them by a gazillion rounds and it was just a mismatch it was a mismatch in game one I know about the the last three games.
A lot like that four game sweep in August of 06 member five games with your right Jimmy thanks for correcting date they swept five that it and unfortunately for us. It coincided with Jimmy -- radio telethon next year -- restart gulf we did rhetorical thing -- a matter thanks to you guys but but you think back to that suite where. Where at the end of the sweep you knew they were done. I mean yet but I -- right things yeah yeah you feel confident but you know. Or cup except I don't feel that way now to Denver Miami -- 2006 at all because this season was over. You really like the seasons overnight like this teams McNamee now play I'll -- well no I don't I don't feel like the season's over I still think that the gonna make the playoffs. While I'm wondering if I'm not whistling past the graveyard here. -- this team seems to have some issues. That are all happening at once and I think that they'll get some of the stuff straightened out I think they'll get some guys healthy. But I wonder what position they're going to be and when that happens I mean look at this rotation right now. You know you're counting on -- has -- tomorrow night at Fenway Park. When the numbers earlier and and you think about the top couple of starters and you feel really go to -- self. Even the one of them is now nine and eight on the year but but you know you still feel really good. After that not.
Well -- it as far as whistling past the graveyard that you're whistling past the graveyard where things were. Normal so to speak with -- whistling past the graveyard when John Smoltz was in the rotation. Not John Smoltz is out that's not a bad thing that's a good thing is now tell me this. Aiken is -- be better than a guy who had an 832. ERA and allowed that he hit war over 400 against him again.
Now that may not. I'm sure it -- and I'm sure I am I'm not sure that it we Erica was pitching in the Japanese industrial league. Is gonna be opt in the middle of -- but an American League east pennant race and be okay.
You know hardest hit 400 against somebody and make Andre while the number -- and yet John Smoltz and and I saw the story about buster on me -- this is amazing this is yet another example example number. 7551. This is one of the greatest countries in the history of man. About -- that teams are and it faults. Lights are all on the national economy and fast -- at. Any interest in the most National League teams back rotation starter. Bullpen guy so. Batters he was -- him. I am confident. That is Iowa can be better than Johnson and much better than John Smoltz is 655. ERA and that he's hitting 350.
It's funny we look at the numbers earlier today from may seventeenth until August. You had a variety of guys filling the number -- our world here programs. Masterson smoltz -- colts -- at some some guys in and out. You can't -- quality starts during that stretch -- had from that so called number five guy whoever happened to be one line. And -- and that was a few days ago Clay Buchholz -- your that's. I mean it and I -- last night on on Comcast talking about you know Brad Penny is failing. What you thought Brad Penny was going to be but I came into the season expecting he was going to be number four starter. And -- Wakefield pitched the first snap my body was my number five starter. Aunt for a number four number five start -- take on it not a Brad Penny. It's everybody else who can't get anybody but he's not and number four number 500 what exposed to be -- supposed to be right. But that's not what he has. That's I would right now and I'm saying win win -- acquired Brett. He yet Beckett had a -- he had Lester had a -- he knew quote ample quotation fingers up he knew we had Daisuke and album. He pictured -- slotting in at four. And Wakefield at five or you -- that when he thought his rotation was going to be acquired Brad Penny. To be is number four or not great I art art even Brad Penny as a number for starting your part with what you -- getting out of him. You know it's -- He's annual quality start in Tenet is 21 starts. -- starts basically. He's giving you quality start and get our -- and are you happy with the performance you've gotten out of breath and are not compared everybody else. I mean at -- everybody has he balancing all the other people who you've got starting Brad Penny a pitch tonight for the Red Sox. I mean he can't have Beckett and that's what.
I happen but say what you -- He'll give you five innings maybe five into pillars. And after about a 115 pitches for the 250. Not gotten a tip about a 115 pitches. And then. And you'll probably be in the game you know probably give up you know 45 runs. Over five --
I guess that the I had an outing here is that is that based on what -- thought you were bringing him in four. He's given you want -- a I do want more don't get me wrong but I'm saying you've thought in a best case scenario he was your fourth starter.
I think I look I'll I'll agree with you abuse day. The entire body of work the entire body of work is what you'd expect but if you look at them closely you look at his last three -- four starts. No it's not what you what it is it is simply. Not get an up the stock closed again and up he is going that saying. That that I feared he would do. In the second half the season is the same thing he's been doing for the last four years he has a nice little start of the season. After the All-Star break he collapses he has collapsing -- at the numbers.
A seven wins right now he's gonna finish with general. Somewhere in aunt and that's being conservative I think -- finished with ten or eleven wins. ID number four slash number five starter. Can't do better -- that I think that's being ambitious the weight and if you look at what he's done lately. He he'll be lucky to get four more wins this year. -- September 11 but three.
I think I think the team can't I think the team can win these games may think the I don't like about dale. He is -- strong guy big guy who can throw -- are 9697. At times yet. He he's not efficient with his pitches he -- the guy who you would think. Should be able to give you consistently. Seven innings if you need to a complete game and he's got the frame for that yet. He pitches like a guy who it is. A 16570. Pounds doesn't doesn't go the distance. Nibbles at times like Daisuke. Nine I would put Daisuke Brad Penny in the -- not.
Physically I'm saying that the style -- while the Jordan describing is exactly how we describe Daisuke. Nibbles plates around everybody's three until 114. Pitches at the end of five innings it's -- ice. Well -- they did this year.
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