The Mike Vick Debate

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I I just wanna say why it has -- the state of Massachusetts want Michael Vick when we voted down a dog tracked their reign them in one of wonderland. I mean it's got and I don't train it every don't. And it discussed and they treat notebooks pretty good compared a year ago. This -- slaughter dogs why would we want Michael Vick played Massachusetts. And red meat that you even have a story like that blog thank you.

Oh well. That. I didn't vote against the dollar tractors. In my public take on. Why you look at people who are gonna have that opinion that there's no way to Ohio but Michael Vick should be allowed any time anyplace anywhere to play football. So in other words it easily embedded -- designers -- You know he should be shoddy should be strong -- people -- emotional. It is and should not be allowed to play football. But again he's gonna get a chance I would think. Immediate the question becomes you know it's interesting to me about Stallworth kill a human being in -- Stallworth who's.

A couple of football again you should. It I think he's out we're -- keep known for his -- he can really mattered little Italy no interest switches like football sample appalled that. -- One -- Michael back. I I think what Michael Vick did was absolutely heinous is as a card carrying member of of dog nation argued dog lover but. He's a lot of second chance. -- didn't seem to. Shed any tears over the sale. Why. You were it. Dog lovers. And animal lover them -- so that. Do. And so not -- a single gay marriage. -- don't know it. One topic. That's then that's a candidate that is that -- biggest. Waste of space they do not -- if you're gonna talk to your federal litter box down let them do their business -- while walking -- take out other than that. My cats like a little dog without the -- and off the walker. You're like yeah I senate. Yeah that's the ticket to -- the cat the it is to the park in broad and Ron Powell. That would jumps around -- very -- on view movement boys and -- kids love it needed. Which means.

For informational purposes only -- yelled let's say I've learned video I would -- in the AFC -- I'm gonna give -- the number when asked you to go over or. -- gonna start with the New England Patriots. 11 o'clock -- Las Vegas spores that on one web site that I'm reading. Twelve wins over wore -- now consider before you make a judgment. -- is brutal. Stretchers. They play the NFC. South. And the AFC so. So last year when they had the Swiss cheese. Slate of games. Featuring the NFC west in the AFC west -- the easiest schedule. Imaginable despite patriots or bills yet despite quarterback they had the it's easiest schedule as a -- alternate once and this year it's a little bit different store. Where and you grew up against decent teams. Not great teams accurately -- I think top to bottom Atlanta. Carolina. Tampa Bay wall you grew up against the likes of Indianapolis and Tennessee is an outside game Baltimore Ravens I think this it is. Eight very. Daunting schedule.

We should at every year though every year at this time. We I don't know we don't know Yelp don't octopus out not only -- one way or the other though every single yearly in May and June and July oh all. It all and Italy should have don't know we don't know until middle -- amber exactly how to steal west. San Diego. Did you pick I can't see anything might ultimately gonna win as many of that at last hurrah right the reason they want. Mitigated. Schedule not necessarily. Charlotte. And a -- patriot like my decision.

Actionable -- get well. Eleven and a half on jump and well and eleven app I was -- well. Walls hello -- line. That's their you do know better that as if I can inform you and educate joint what -- you can. Educate me on the old runners I just bet straight well I think neither. In my -- the number exactly. It does not let this happen there's -- you get over under well I haven't in my opinion well you get thirteen to three better you win. Eleven and five. Or like what. Twelve of the bush all the bush though I wanna -- and for a bankrupt bush. Because I don't.

Do you think this is a great. You think Las Vegas has got the yeah yeah because they're bigger because when I actually when I was bit when I was in Vegas.

A month ago the number was eleven and a half. And I love them in the -- love them well I think they're loaded. Loaded for bear -- two on on paper. This is -- horrific football -- I have my questions about having Shawn Springs and and Leigh Bodden exactly. One of the quarterbacks do an audio fill in for Mike Vrabel -- allotment a lot outside linebacker position do I all go under the twelve. Only because of the difficulty of the schedule that does not mean that I don't think they are eighty. Fairy -- and looted football parkers idea oh. You don't want if I don't put gun in my head I'll go over just because I don't think you can stop this off meter I'll take the -- Where the seat and a thirteenth. Sorry in our idea -- thirteen and it's by no means will be a great. Defects I think it will be very very good be good enough yet be you know by the -- again by -- talking about falcons.

Ravens. Broncos ecstatic titans Buccaneers. Colts states' hand there is jaguars. Texans.

The easiest games in the went in the game's all eyes are upon unexpectedly go 516 and on the idealized or six -- Over the W got to go succeed on our. So but a -- that road and that tablet that you shouldn't be concerned about Jacksonville and in Houston in New Orleans. Like Atlanta and has very. While I know you aren't some don't -- let's -- the Miami deal last year the eagle went eleven football. Out of the blue. Not -- this year. The biggest boys believed that the Miami Dolphins. Over and under is seven and a half. Over. Four under go over my -- eight. They're gonna see the -- there isn't a -- that it always he replies into. I eleven games last year so what this thing news. Is that the oddsmakers this thing this was -- We -- all crazy schedule that point differential was like lost 28. Winning eleven games they won every game by. A field goal something in overtime. So what they're saying is is this is this is a total of seven. Over or under overeat. -- Under the Miami Dolphins. Are seven and got much of a drop from eleven much when you think six in ten. Regression to the means to. -- Not that difficult -- I'm trying to educate a month when your -- and York jets mentioned in New York Jets. Nine and seven last year Vegas sports happened at seven. This year. Seven wins this year can you answer one question. Who's going to catch the ball over who's going to throw the ball rookie quarterback Cotchery. Rookie quarterback I'd understand next. Next on my statistical area -- seventy you gotta go six in ten. -- about. I reckon Jeff I'm well aware of that ordinance. Decent effects of I think the jets both -- the ice the -- with. I I I don't like a team that has the rookie quarterback it's not -- that a nice decent but not expect these to be a prospective fans. You can make up for the rookie quarterback they don't they're not going to go and under on under your opponent is under five elevenths that then. The Buffalo Bills. With -- Owens. Last year at the bills went seven and this year the number is seven and one.

Seven and one half with Terrell Owens. --

It's not stick in its seven penalty yeah I'm I'm look I'm no 1 under the am. I'm look at their schedule. At Kansas City at Tennessee at Jackson with those two losses home against Houston act.

Leave when the -- and Tampa I'm going under. I'm going under the to a powerful bodies tossed under the head -- going to Alaska guard Boris has done -- and let's go under the weight again and again if.

If you look at competition and it -- seat. If Miami can repeat god bless them I don't -- Few rejects. Any better. Quarterback situation -- situation. You can make a case that you know may be TO open at the buffalo bills' Everett. A month and you'll -- an addiction. Succeed nationally maybe -- Jack Kemp was the quarterback and -- guilt for political principles in the nine. Mean recent. You can make the argument that the patriots if the -- shows up at the stadium. Will win the AFC you can make the argument that the AFC east. Sam the patriots taking them off the board might be the worst division. Can -- not. You talk about three team on everybody and ourselves although an -- game not even close NFC west and -- AFC west. AFC west these is -- west is worse -- the AFC west of the NFC west she whispered that Arizona. Efforts escrow. Seattle. For Arizona -- zone is. -- That he almost a thickening and topic Miami dolphin area in the and all the turmoil but then they went through during the offseason. They had a nice run during the post season. They are classic case of the disconnect all right -- blessed is the worst of San Diego. And then. The likes of the -- as quickly as the -- as the Oakland records are fine the Denver bronco also -- Denver are I'll take Denver. Over buffalo Miami with the jets I like them better than any of those three.

Numbers get some weapons they'll buy -- if they -- show -- I think he's going to be huge here but. Oakland opens who knew me one point seven soup since 2000.

Credit whatsoever to do despite the talent on their team their duke by Democrat -- that the overall point you're rope or is that when you look at all of these numbers and again. When you talk about the defendant here in Pittsburgh Steelers at ten and talk about the Indianapolis Colts who you know -- done without key coordinators. -- ten. You talk about that Tennessee. Eight and half 113. Football game -- they eight and jump on the over eight and a half what's Carol. Carolina is eight that. It's easier. Again. The -- sport. Apps do we load the patriots this year despite the difficult schedule to talk about again well. Verses. Pittsburgh. At ten the Eagles that terror and the giants at ten. This is no it's coming out of the NFC this year. Eagles -- gas giants. Has this much broken it's much better balanced. Conference in the UNC. You can pencil and right now. That new wings will win the east at San Diego will win the west that Pittsburgh. Or all of sort of stuff. And I were thinking in Indianapolis and Tennessee -- playoff teams almost right away before the office Odyssey. Biden Houston's run on in the last -- Tennessee objectively you'll I in an instant -- to lay out the idea -- will win in San Diego on. Owens. Company. Opting to be about it's. Gonna sneak. Houston Jacksonville.

Since and now. We now know. The jets and genealogy of a lot of which you you like the patriots under. Yet they still use it quite a nice I still I still like -- I think -- win the division by three plus games but again because of the difficulty. All of the schedule this year consume. Have a great team and I'm just look I'm looking at them at the start of the year and taken I'm. I find hard pressed to find a place -- they lose a game until they get to Denver. On October 11. Or Wednesday and on and on and 99.9 percent of the time wrong -- car Joe look at the WE. --

Yeah it's pull our guys wanna do. What god job well Michael -- happy. Keep Ed I thought that -- spy like you don't bother talking about -- Michael -- New England. Meet that guy. We had punishment a ticket seller is say -- effective check this guy -- he had short short. -- Albeit it will all their diet would have figured despite -- on quite yet. -- I believe it is -- hit. International players that I won't devastated. That day that if it -- said it and you are going to be BA for what you gotta step in a separate target --

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I am I gonna do -- it saying it now with Michael's sake he really didn't spare me. -- One of a lot of well why eat it -- animal.

Two years and years in jail I I. Know it's a fair point that that if you bend him for life. It would probably be more devastating because he has no right what she could do. I gotta make money right. Must he finds another love Lucy finds the US -- goes employees in the CF dollar goes employee -- felt got a spot Lamar and said come dumped our league will take. In Orlando the give a million bucks but I I'd I didn't understand the -- point where it did. He actually feel but the the punishment. Didn't at the Crimea into economic not a sport -- that that it would have been more severe for for -- to be banned for -- five or six years as a player yes that perhaps earlier this tournament I think that was. That was his point. Gonna take a break or two the calls. They just a normal what's the story -- Robert for Brookline mass Robert.

Turn on your radio please thank you.

I it is okay now I think that what it did was wrong clear -- everybody -- we don't. Okay but who write but let's point out that. The that don't want an alternate date in the county where. Jack convicted bird dog fighting to a 22 -- that no one where we're not fighting looked at first of they'd ever get any written. In that state county. Well I think that that that aspect of that it or not concern was really appeared --

Nor did the people around him receive the same punishment and sentence --

Well exactly so my point is that that. That what it from what happened in the -- if you get called out what -- the end of what the county. He never would have gone to jail I think that aspect of it to be -- or replaced Mike Vick will be.

to me that's that's neither here nor there -- mean what's done is done.

People need to understand historical aspect of.

I like to look at historic moving forward. You know -- get a chance what team will be image. With the patriots beat. Are you surprised that more teams to run as an argument to yeah -- I thought for sure with the dearth of quarterbacks up there and that the backlash and obviously. If -- hang with anybody yet but. I thought if you ask you this a year ago I thought there would be more of backlash. In general about the potential of team on -- what are the backlash. Where people with a with a with. That's pickets or are alive or probably any leader. If people other than that. They'll be an initial burst in the whole layoff I agree. I I don't why don't believe I don't this is a -- is. He comes to town he has a press conference he says I'm sorry he says I'm gonna do my best -- You know to make him as to why it zawahri is this are why hasn't anybody sign of -- and everybody signed it and why isn't anybody evaluating its water down the road to bring -- minicamp Seattle do you believe those rooms Jim Mora junior. That this -- connect I'm now a London in Atlanta house of backs uncertain future. Thompson into outlook is WEEI.

I don't got to Aldridge OI thought well Michael -- while. I don't have any. They've made a mistake in. Personal life. And I don't have a problem and return of all let's not forget that wasn't a great -- back above average. All all all issues that what. Quarterback. Spot or in a while yeah well all.

he's the greatest. Running quarterback in my life name. The best running quarterback. Outside of Michael may be Randall Cunningham would be one guy that would hold a candle to Michael he's the greatest. -- from the quarterback position. In my life but the question is do you want it do you feel comfortable quarterback as you darting lousy quarterback Iran patriot I assign one.

Great eat the incredible laps and if you wanted to the F slash. You know fourth district wide receiver arbitration running back. He'd be a great fit but as a quarterback. Record for. What's this team or for another team. All are up for about it and he wanted to be fit string receiver. Running back K. I think it great I mean. Aside from the.

I wanna play off. This -- Average is nice guy you won a lot of football games as a starter in the national football as averages like -- is. There are probably a half dozen teams out there -- they run up atop my head. Formal take Mike Vick even two years -- football league with -- all the warts and he has personally and professionally. Over their current starting quarterback level right the Minnesota Vikings have a lot of them might actually pars Jackson the NY -- is new bike. Sanchez -- Michael Vick.

That but I I I I don't see it all comes to knowing when there's. Too many awful football -- and say they have an average or not.

We also think that Bill Belichick will do his best to put on. The best roster imaginable correct yes so. Obviously his number one quarterback is Tom Brady correct and now his number two quarterback. Could potentially be Walter could potentially BO on but it could potentially be. Michael Vick now do we think the Bill Belichick says him. Brady gets her best chance of winning football. Walter is it Kevin O'Connell or is -- Michael.

I would have to believe that he send Mike -- Why is it. I don't know I don't know I I can't answer that question either gonna ask myself the same question either his -- he's extremely certain that Brady's top 100% he's. You know I'll do that later if I have to deal that I'm unless the unless he feels okay if I get to the situation. Where Tom Brady goes down -- Tom Brady can't play Mike Vick will still be available in another month unless he feels for certain Mike Vick will be. All around the middle of September early October to I think I can think of knowledge -- right now movies we said baseline -- the five to seven plays again. -- As an insurance balls. If targets -- knew he'd argue that Kevin O'Connell is insurance policy if he's -- sees a problem more than we'd like the player or what what isn't worth it. In your eyes what does not I don't think it's worth it to. I don't want Michael -- on my bench I want -- just five plays the game and you know I think Belichick looks at a Julian Edelman says -- use the wildcat within. It's a draft before he was a quarterback in college she's wide receiver who's better polar. Michael Vick but I think that's why I think it's 80% -- on 20%. Off field shenanigans with.

politics yeah a distraction. If you well. And stuff to deal with putting it into law that that factor in his did get that target area doesn't want Michael Vick. Operated deal and I'd probably be. It's operating wants to be on the field every single fight if they don't go check looks at -- and says. -- worked better football team Tom Brady taking your recent. You don't take the bottom as an instrument does it that's why would you. Take a break and be back with more Dennis and Callahan which -- Roland Greg Dickerson in --

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