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Curt joins Dino and Gerry to talk about Clay Buchholz, Dice-K and John Smoltz. As always, Schilling had some very interesting stuff to say.
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Andrew joins D&C to discuss how he feels about Tim Thomas' political views and how Patrice Bergeron has been the MVP for the team so far this season. Andrew also talks about how they have to regroup and make adjustments to get out this funk the team is currently in.
Tim Thomas is once again in the news for posting his political views on facebook but refuses to talk to the media about it. Is this situation becoming more than a distraction to the team especially with their recent play? D&C react.
D&C receive a second call from Joe in Nashville voicing his frustration over the Pats not bringing back Randy Moss during last offseason.
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Let's review what we've learned from our one Dennis -- analysts Thursday mean April's fever yesterday was 96 degrees yeah. That's good think it's that's -- there was laughter yeah lower. Than normal and well which is troubling is that he called me. The time lows -- night. -- pages -- on the eighteenth the colony to into your world -- virtually a current good morning -- We're okay. If you agree -- us that the deal will do something by the trading deadline. Would you guess it's going to be small medium or large.
All. You know I think there's. Small and medium deals have been both -- and somebody's got what do it is to make it is just to make it can be deal to -- is gonna. He can move better player those players well. Extract and too much charitable -- just -- tickets that they make it on revolution what you have.
We we spent the first hour discussing the call -- dynamic if indeed he brings acquires a hitter. Let's just say for the sake of the discussions -- like Victor Martinez ends up the Boston Red Sox. That means playing time for Varitek Youkilis lol Ortiz is probably going to be reduced cost the that the dynamic Kirk well what the clubhouse consequences of that would be if -- last until very -- you close Lowell Ortiz. You're gonna play less because Victor Martinez so has arrived.
Situation is different in this organization it's uniquely different. Became less that it's here. They really rely on treason. It coach on the field slowed Arnold almost. Catcher victor is a -- you know it's weird like it's of that move beyond all -- rust. -- alleged conspiracy. Puzzle police possibility of slow moving in really. -- quite like it but I think there's too much the rest that happened in then you don't trade away. Significant chunks here for a computer your award winning part of system for a guy that. Took place or -- this week.
Just how how tense is it in the clubhouse now do you think --
While it vacate its goal of better perspective of him. The young guys to want to -- the purple -- problem terrorist while orders they they might only be. But for the most part. You'll understand early in this organization. Early days here in your career nuclear efforts seem that there is giving it every year and this is well places were teams that are in it. Can flirt so there's always somebody -- that -- gonna get. There's always. Long without person. Jobs that people are gonna get go to it's weird visits. Since departed it's tough statement in Boston is not nearly. As tough because I think because the players go through so often in our corporate.
Victor Martinez aside just in general. How do players and I know each each is an individual. But the mindset of guys. When they're told they're gonna get less playing time because a new guy. Has command they put it aside there you -- say well that helps us win games or will people hold their breath and behind closed doors turn blue and a club.
But the same -- it it's terrible player I mean this is one place swerve. That in the first -- news to execute thrust. -- to distance -- basis city's -- won the World Series right now is here. And if you wanna keep that has just luxury if you wanna keep that in play. You've got to be single literally.
MI baseball's different is that we talk about this earlier current don't baseball players. Feel like at some point they earned their place in the lineup and they earned the right to play every day.
Now. You know -- again this is. This is something -- sneak up on anybody everybody knows. It's. And that's and that's it is not the healthiest state in the instance you might have players who. Are flourishing and doing well you know or all of -- forty dollar global would be -- Beatles because predictably given that the veterans because. -- there's no it's can be done it helps us that deals and do it.
About thinking young pitcher would welcome trade because. There's it's just easier to break in the rotation if you go to it's burger. Or wherever you gonna get a chance to play right away. And and here you're always battling for a spot whether it's in the rotation in the kind of.
Yeah in the near Tokyo and third that it. I would imagine in the minor league prospects in this organization's. Emotionally Keller runs the gamut most of them don't know enough to know. How close so far they are you know but Michael Baden and been in. Basically have been opened and have been -- them. All the things to go with that -- As far as duplicates goes the kernel I think -- first time your traded. There's a piece of it that they've been exciting about it which way you're headed in the deals because somebody's made a move to get you -- it's it's Britney thing.
Current -- it will be clear here given the makeup of this club and probably the ability of -- manager to handle -- you think Francona would have no problem getting lol or Varitek or Youkilis or Ortiz to buy into a slightly reduced role between now -- October.
I don't think it I think that would be beliefs. Possible place that a problem would crop up the sport guys yet just just. Yes but at the same time -- I'm not sure that bit. So that's imploded you making you know I mean but it personally. I don't bit bit you know you do bowl -- in -- millions. You're opening -- Tutsis and there's Celtic element of -- and because. You don't want I have to sit down my heart that in October it.
It's funny as we always ask and you've been asked this a million times current. Does the team have to do something to show the veterans that -- that their -- and everything they can the front offices trying as hard to win as they are. And now we're talking about making these veterans uncomfortable. Because they might have to pick a reduced role.
Well until it but I think field before officers have been brought just like they -- from the fans. I think it brought a lot of good will players. -- You know not what happens it will not be from a lack of effort and and it's wanting to -- out the incidents during his players to evolve to mean. You know I've been the situation there's a point where we Deborah did everything in response to -- never -- anything in that we have a chance to to be contenders. Here it was never case -- institute Bigelow you know. How can we not trade for -- should do Jackson. Because they're they have taken all the players here acknowledge that it's can be done. Enemy because -- but also the the role well dressed -- a whole it will get done.
Everybody who has watched a -- in his five or six starts from you know barrel to Tito to even Leo Mazzone who we have on the today also the very same thing. Good stuff bad results what say you.
Yes maybe maybe I agree narrow -- on the blog legislate. You know he's got one problem right now that. Fastball command and it's something. They can virtually tumble overnight dumb. But it's it's to keep the one piece that these missing -- economic consistency. Or --
Penny when you watch last night did you watch the first inning last anchor.
Yeah I'd -- it earlier it's -- Well. It's a horrible. That's. I typed gates I can probably count on one -- of the overtimes. I have -- person -- walked off field like governor did.
You know it's painful because. For the most part you you've watched the game. Are happening in India and in Oregon insurers -- offenses. Try to get on track the last thing you want to lose his spot somebody won much less six. -- so. That's hard to watch it believes those things it's painful to bid makes to its cause or be painful to watch that innovative. I would be excited about what I've -- Brad Penny given I think what they anticipated him being in doing him and what they did as well.
Did you ever get a sense that there was trouble between the Red Sox in Daisuke an interview with yeah. What would you let him do his own thing would you know.
You can't. Not not you can't it's. It's it's it's far too. There's there's part -- maybe differences in it and in all the things we go behind a game meant playing that game over their over here that. No matter what you explain for the player totally experience -- they're not gonna know of its. But I think it's a little surprising things to me as having watched him go through a couple years now. These dot these these are very smart kid if he understands. For the most part it's a different game. By you know him saying. Basically what can do well think -- was -- it be you know -- all disputes. It's it's it's a lack of accountability and it's it's polluted or use maps but that's unfortunate part when he watched John -- Terry Francona. Impulse Florida in the trading stopped and everybody in this clubhouse. Acquiesced two need to wants to do everything they Kevin Bacon comparable live like this -- site. It's been their best interest and to excel I mean it's about like these guys are. And people especially your -- ago you spend a couple what some mistakes on the leader and they eat does whatever is he can do -- and he's proven he will swallow whatever yes assault from his pride there was foot. To -- Jamaica's player feel good about so often about -- develop guys can't stay here. I always are gonna be impressed me in -- low budget scale like remember that the people love it. This is just world's unfortunate things that you can't take back -- exposes a the tremendous breach of trust and confidence in my opinion in in a -- lack of accountability whistle on him.
But -- if Dice-K thinks his Red Sox mandated workout is what's holding him back is and that's sort of half the battle with --
I'm -- but I don't know bit that they. As a punitive insanely -- position. That is out because he can't have missed the camp out of shape and not ready to play it. Here he's picking an immense amount of money Andy's from a culture. Where work out because everything. You lawyer -- her comments were people -- of -- to the factored. They ever really pushed the focal point of their better. Better. Works out to people what is he can give Belichick. Didn't work to get ready this year and the end. That wouldn't fly I mean he can't he think about Japan he picked -- Japanese player isn't. Then so they're so work ethic which is integrated in. You know people in the defense would be world you know. He Pittston that they previously hinted greatly was obviously it's well he did exactly what someone who. Was a great people bill which was just deep blue spruce. His politics. This is is which shortened -- will be available all it's very quickly yeah. And he even backed himself out an environment. That's not conducive to somebody it's perfectly healthy it worked the ball off -- much -- someone who didn't.
Curtis any pitcher reached the stature that he could come here and say two to fare alert -- though that's not my program as an example if the holiday thing. Took place without they have just -- the -- say I I'd respect which are trying to do here that's not my program.
real thing but see it's not like that from the standpoint of you're not talking about a football John Farrell is it is seventy yes -- due to liberate ever played with -- They're very pro active from the simply okay what do you do. How do you do it why do you do it -- what can we do to help make it out. It's. Even though you know he'll go out some guys that are that are built it in all the Mike Reynolds of the world it's to do it my way here. You're not doing great but for the most part just tired group people's about eight. -- What you wanna do and how do you wanna do it and how we make it work free because they understand. That you know you don't there's the one way to do just. And that's how they approach who have died because they do you remember that that's practice with noble here. Became became a perfect example of why you don't allow. The guys to do their own direct immediate talk about a guy who got his electric stuff as anybody in the big leagues. And burned out in in less than five years.
But most Japanese. Pitchers -- less than five yeah.
They don't know why there's that. -- others it's not a coincidence. In its but but I certainly stated earlier though you're talking about literally. Michael Jordan called the Japan. And them telling you let him out of work out. In the off season to get ready to play basketball. You know it's the same thing from iconic figures status and standpoint so. This is Michael Jordan of frivolous and I understand how to get ready for basketball -- You know. Big huge differences is civic inmate again it's what I consider that you can't. State not. The difference in scheduled competition truck all postings ago with the -- big league season merit here. It's different you go it'll -- about if if all of sudden. Next month at least negligent virtual format rotation. How many guys screwed up. You know and he basically went ballistic spent to a five man. You know -- callebs in Japan have essentially two pistols was that -- each week. There's there's designated off today in the bad -- up -- noted that there.
given the rigors of the Major League Baseball schedule and the differences between Japan and here do you see any added value to what. Daisuke is is is professing these marathon throwing sessions or just pitfalls.
Not all here's the thing. While there is no one way to get right to agree to some extent which is it is. -- out of -- his comment about genetically. Or are I think becoming -- was the you know -- Japanese pitchers are built differently. There they're taught differently from from the time they come out the -- To to do things differently and they do build their arms differently in and they are much more about. Push of -- body to past the breaking point and lot of things if you look at. The area of progression and in places and things -- at home so far so fast in the recent past is just instead of throwing shoulder. The amount of money in the science behind diagnosing. These armaments shoulder in the last thirty years alone is staggering. And we -- we know for a fact is that the human body. Can only take so much. And that's different for everybody but it but there's there's a realistic threshold -- where you'll probably want to do. And the Japanese pitchers are our guys that push. That's threshold far beyond what. What American players and pitchers do. Again but it goes back to bit because they place it's a different schedule. And there're there're a lot of the conditions under which state player very different the public system.
What's your guess and Halladay disease does he get dealt and any guess on what are.
Are -- I don't feel like. It's not. It's not going to be oh crap deal of cram a deal together. Picketers. -- the groundwork is delayed. With anybody and in the -- for example the Red Sox and then they in the blue jays are player away. Maybe I don't know what they've gotten there with everybody. You know I don't know what because again. The problem to -- the media right now is that your reading for the most part. Whatever you're hearing about these deals you're hearing what JP and what do you want to be here. About players that there are on the block. It could ever admit that's a gay men and of itself is is to the misinformation that you want the public. So you can continue to push the price up or -- another player with another team. Potentially. I just think -- consumers are few and far between because of the talent. JP is looking to get in return. And the budgetary. Changes -- her when Roy elevate toward the club resulted in the can do it.
One of the teams mentioned current probably as Texas you're a holiday of a no trade clause why on earth would you accept a trade to the Texas Rangers.
Well because they have a whole lot better chance to be in October than in Toronto. That would be the only reason that you would do it. And Texas are not tech tools what is my always enjoyed going. In particular the bureau could. -- holiday if you look at his stats. -- part of Texas is probably not commit to a affect him numerically and anyway. -- you don't orbiter. Because it's been Jordan well on the ground in -- strikeout so. It doesn't really affect him from you know -- as ballpark small standpoint. But I think he's he's gonna. If any situation presents itself to -- in October the better. But better odds to get to October -- I think he's gonna is -- traitors not going to be --
Where do you place sparkles on your future star scale is he going to be just state twelve to fifteen game winner do you see him -- some.
I hope our overall what -- your team. My first. I hope he's gonna want -- consistent pitcher in the big leagues much -- I don't make Americans as the winner yet I'm given to seriously get people all the bigwigs. You know this is you -- target -- which are talking about. Brilliant play up did they get spot start all things a little aside need to restore all of it duplicates the steps we have too many starters and they're also -- cars -- it's only god what are the what -- the two -- with nobody. I don't I don't know I mean he hasn't he hasn't been consistently probable contender yet. He has yet to put together consistent run in the big leagues of spoke routing to make me feel like. You know -- he's he's got a chance to dominate men. I'd like to see steps forward before so far ahead of predicting underwent 1215 year. You know might my concerns would be. Does -- go to push himself to the point were physically he's gonna be ready to go to work toward evening you season. If you can do about it forgiving of considerable time and effort away from the Roberts is to get good and be good in the FB better than other people because that's. One of the reasons that you know they didn't they do with them earlier -- per year.
So you're convinced -- controls this outcome to a large degree.
I think you -- not -- the reason why exit the organization is well done what it did I think they're. I don't think that mutually baseball as -- on the property is priority list. Probably yours goes for his time and effort energy and now. Well my I don't know but it I hate. You know one of the things you always are but we talk to -- it was all about slumping Jones looks for his. Another -- that these cute creatures of losing. Who who they -- so much a missile measurable between Milosevic and expert he's doing everything he can do. In between two to change the outcome. They are -- around on the struggle molded like devalue their act and react -- certainly didn't have that make up the past and of those places were right usually hope to see them make some just some changes.
Well he doesn't have the penthouse pet anymore but he has some other super --
You know that I didn't -- you look around. -- Like spin you big mysteries. Ever Ramirez you know.
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It's not about not about complex puzzle. That Obama now. I thought -- it already. -- foot. Where. You know which try to -- process logic can and our bring want to commit the argument of his situation varies it talks about. You know politics stalwart in all of those things are gonna lighten -- there again eighteen months for. For doing him -- probably is you don't ever really war. Mind to -- on the -- he went down so there's some issues there. He's Serb response in and you know properly install worked as several orders Jill thing is looking like that. You know there's a -- human being at one Kason that is not the other yeah. And it's really confusing -- company -- from some logical. Actually expect out of work.
So you all the problems Vick get back in the league just nodding your neighborhood.
Not -- feel about it was only go yeah I mean they're gonna when they're still what seventh -- bullish or shall.
Depends like that Roethlisberger a sexual assault case can.
But I catalog -- and that how to work the long and bright and very well that's but that's. That's why the you'd be. You guys I mean that was such a non story. In 24 hours because -- may never got. Talked about follow up on the there was just some girl obviously spewing. -- I don't know why but it didn't happen.
And now they should just a white album -- won't even get into an elevator alone if there's another there's a woman's in there.
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And loved her but we we're discussing Jeff Nelson's Wade Boggs story the other day said the witnessed Wade -- turn fifty to sixty Beers on the west coast. You receive a teammate as prolific as blogs.
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Really -- disappear didn't slow him that neither deny.
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They say what you will about blogs on the field numbers and they were magnificent they paled in comparison -- the following numbers fifty Beers is 600 ounces the stomach -- only a court --
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You think David well stomach is only a quarter.
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