David Ortiz reportedly tested positive for PEDs in 2003

I don't know that this necessarily. Qualifies as breaking news or shocking news. But it's it's news that is not gonna excite to many members of Red Sox Nation. The New York Times in a piece written by Michael S Schmidt. And that post it about ten minutes ago. Has a story. -- headline of which is Ortiz and Ramirez. Said to be on 2003 doping list. The opening paragraph of the story by Michael S Schmidt reads as follows. Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz the sluggers who propelled the Boston Red Sox. To end at 86 year World Series championship drought in the capture another title three years later. Were among the roughly 100 major league baseball players to test positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003. According to lawyers with knowledge of the results. I'm a little perplexed as I read through the story and it's a fairly lengthy piece here which just posted in the last few minutes. I'm a little perplexed what led them to the story now. Now this goes back to that list of a 104 or a 103 now that we you know more more we thought was a 103. And we kind of always felt that sooner or later we were gonna hear about more. And more of these of the 103 names that -- left.

Answer that's your answer you said you don't know what led them to that list. Led into the story. As soon as Alex Rodriguez's name came out and then after that Sammy Sosa's name game that came out you knew. That if the list ever got into the hands of a journalist it's all over. And and it sounds like. You know people have partial list. I don't know if any journalist has the full list because of a journalist did believe me all of those names --

A paragraph a little further on in the story says quote. The information about Ramirez and Ortiz. Emerged through interviews with multiple lawyers and others connected to the pending litigation. Lawyers spoke anonymously because the testing information is under seal by a court order the lawyers did not identify which drugs were detected. It also says unlike Ramirez who recently served a fifteen game suspension for violating baseball's drug policy. Ortiz had not previously been linked to performance enhancing substances it also says. Apparently. Ortiz was asked about it today in Boston at the ballpark. Presumably by the New York Times. That the story says ask about the 2003 drug test on Thursday in Boston Ortiz shrugged. I'm not talking about that anymore he said I have no comment on -- The comment you're looking for no way there's no denial hair I'm not talking about it but is that the is that the ways to handle. I have a feeling kind of caught him out of the blue we probably didn't have time to prepare in his own mind how he was gonna aggressive when it was gonna say.

And I mean is does this serve on the say it's not true. Or is no comment the best way to handle it may probably no comment. But then again if it's not true. When you come out and say yeah you better check your formation. That it happened that's not true I don't know where you're getting that from.

Well as as this piece says. And again it's a pretty lengthy piece here. David Ortiz has said some things in the past about. You know need to know about what was in all shakes protein shakes he was taken back in the Dominican now that doesn't that doesn't apply it's news that list. No it together into but he also said I'm not gonna be buying anything it GMC in the Dominican anymore aren't. -- does that shocked me now. I'd be more shocked if as the list leaked out there weren't any Red Sox names on it I have been more shocked if that was the case.

think about adding some people are surprised that Ortiz his name is on the list Manny Ramirez analysis not a surprise at all once you feel the drug test this year. It opened up all kinds of many questions in and you had to ask yourself has been doing doing it hasn't hired time in the big leagues. -- start doing it when he came to Boston. The -- at the area. -- 165. RBIs in Cleveland go on and on so not a surprise policy Manny there my only surprise in the C Ortiz name. Well in it as he had never had never been mentioned before and.

People know actually the first time you've ever seen his name. Linked -- any thing my guess is the New York Times held off on posting this until they had a chance to get a comment from him which they did today at the ballpark. This says that you know he commented today Thursday. Ball at the field so. That the times. Tried to get him to comment he out needless to say declined to comment is as we just read and so I'm I'm not talking about that anymore.

It was 2002 the year. John Henry and Larry Lucchino and Tom Warner took over the Red Sox correct. So didn't sound -- tell us that they had tested Manny several times and he never failed a drug test in Boston.

Yeah he did. So but if you're using HE -- to win no matter. But now it says there that he failed test -- Wednesday the yup that does okay it says that. That Ortiz and Ramirez. Were among the roughly 100 Major League players to test positive. For performance enhancing drugs in 2003. Now this wasn't just to reiterate for folks this was the test that was anonymous. This was the tested didn't have any names linked to it and all they were trying to do was establish a line what percentage. We're gonna test positive because a certain percentage. Clicked in more rigorous testing in the future. In in defense of Tom -- here. My guess is he didn't know that they want this test because nobody had the names the names were attached to the results so they would know that.

And that could be that could be one explanation. If you're if you're David Ortiz appears Sammy Sosa year Alex Rodriguez. Yet -- it's embarrassing that your name comes out on this list and you got to answer some questions but. I think this story is far from over. Down the road it usually happens I think. You will be able to find a paper trail. Of how this list came out in the first place and maybe. There's something legally they can do now that doesn't make them make it better doesn't scrub your name clean. Being associated with steroids but there is some type of I guess there's payback. -- something you can do. And in. Possibly tracked down the person who who leaked this out I mean there's there's a leak if not for five -- This is and how did this happen how does this happen it's only people have this list that was supposed to be anonymous.

Every once in awhile we you know you get calls and weird. Pronouncements made we've actually gotten a couple of calls within the last week. From anonymous people who told us that they had little they claimed that they had the list. -- in the deeply and who they were so there wasn't a whole lot of credibility given. We didn't respond to them. I see you almost wonder if the list is floating out there someplace. It's got -- and that the times got a a piece of it now. If the times had the list I find it a little hard to believe that the only people there they're putting out there're -- and Ramirez that does make a whole lot of sense to me. They might be the biggest or among the bigger names on the list. But it just it it's a little hard for me to federal and I think everyone has a partial list having their lot of people with partial list. But if if somebody had the pool thing. They were reported that. Yeah I I you know I I think at this point we're all kind of wondering. What the reaction. What the reaction was going to be of of Red Sox Nation once they were positively linked to people who who you know used performance enhancing drugs in the process of you know trying to win a World Series we all kind of expected it was gonna happen. I have been shocked if there wasn't a Red Sox name on their but I don't know at this point now Red Sox Nation was.

On him as in the guy does get lunch now thanks a lot -- Arnold. Thank you very much for. Being the bearer of good news like this I mean I'd my my team has has lost consecutive games to the Oakland -- My offenses struggled to score since the All-Star break dominates when they do score the bullpen breaks down. Now I'm just trying to get a burger lunchtime in the Arnold is telling me I don't David or camera one there today Maris. Tested positive for steroids to direct -- At a.