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I but I think you if you look at them versus the Yankees that's exactly what the difference of the Red Sox and yankees is now the Red Sox have brought players in light you. Pay you big blocks but they have been able augmented. With the Dustin Pedroia is the Kevin Youkilis his guys that they have that fiscal control over for awhile and it's worked for the -- haven't done much of that.
And the plate but the bulk trading treat prospects. You know and you know eight in 988. -- to the program and they ran out on a big rig count from. Attitude almost I think last. Peek at -- ears it's bend -- what to expect to get the best players in the market wiggle regardless of the impact in the about on the deal.
And if so couldn't you argue the point thing Craig I mean the earth. Could get pregnant I used to work with us as an anchor themselves sorry your. Couldn't you argue the point that that which philosophy is worked out better.
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you are you saying you bring in Halladay and at what cost. I I we don't know the name some fight within myself but we just we don't know the names. But the thought of those three -- is nice I personally think I would you know I would go buckles Lars Anderson for Roy Halladay -- is --
I'm not really sure they've got players that would be touched ordeal for all they ethnic problem. You know that that's one thing it was the not gonna start on particle buckle their bubbles popping the downside about this that the outcome. 'cause it's become -- pitch well and you got. Everybody and others say well okay we've got one what are your character -- typically and obviously that's sort but it. You a lot of our. Take that step and I think it was -- The prospects and how we feel about the number exactly but it also bought white feel about the prospect. I can hear a public persona and the public pressure that -- and a lot different than -- and and and it'll be -- org it is because well. GM's initially pitched all -- that media however they need to use them to make you feel whatever they need to speed up their players.
So it's -- until you do that and I know which dependent on what to Ronald ones but let's say they want three or four of the top prospect what would you do.
I really difficult. If I do like Iran called it the next five years ago.
What's the thing that's -- have yet to come with an extension on top of it and it and it's not there's no extension now it's and that prospect league's list those weighed down --
But. Let me ask Atlanta -- do you not believe that the Red Sox. Look at the money. And look at what -- going to have to spend in keeping this is a championship contending team because they will have to replace David Ortiz Mike -- Jason Varitek and they may have to replace find themselves shortstop -- over the next two years. -- Do they not look at their total payroll it's like okay what's it going to cost now remember to get holiday. You might pretty much cleanup covered with your top prospects of their four the only way to get replacements for those guys is on the free agent market and paying top dollar for.
So erotic or your copper prospects but this is senate secure but you're gonna double your property whatever -- the property you are not operate that way we operate. People in the top prospect. So I mean you're saying it. Are they don't have. A lot act like they got I don't I don't I don't think definitely could but I don't think -- the -- and -- but it out. Like here -- other. Baseball bill and yeah carpet -- Josh Beckett speaks English. PayPal they'd probably sixteen that would finish. A pair up away you're gonna bring -- just it got. One let's say you want solution internally at 80 a couple sought an art becomes colder so. You make twelve million -- altered to you know. Co -- that the respect -- but it it. Prosecute -- spin it went well when available Alex is gonna be put beat another hit it up. -- operas to make demo on the deal you know they might not even thinking about making this though because they know that they can't take the pieces -- the money for the next.
I'm -- benefit from the flexibility in the money is their problem. The wanting I would agree with is if they don't think much of a block colts or Lars Anderson. Then they may be very willing to do it even -- It's going to cost them at the other end they'll figure out a way of the other -- if they can get. Halladay right now for guys that they don't value greatly organization of the.
That's when and that's -- we don't know we don't know how they feel about Lars innocent -- but people say it would JP doesn't -- deal is oral disease in his own division to give how the of the Red Sox will. Do you think the Red Sox want -- one clay -- to go to Toronto turn into the that they thought he was or Lars Anderson go to Toronto eternity got -- they thought I'd like I said.
That's one of those that wanna bet that that's that streets are other than a guide to current come back the week treatment peek at times or dispute him. Some -- gauntlet seem negative is gonna come back its basic and making our European at all regular New Yorkers -- and that the all are right now.
They've got -- current what are you looking for for contract.
What do it now yeah -- believe what he's very for. Outlook for. I wanna I. Contract what is next bikes and that the bratwurst. Belt works how much.
About government money.
Yeah I don't appear like the market can't be at hand and that's a -- you have not appear paper like -- well. 128 point two million a year. So. It counts for -- security. At eighteen. Notre. They'll all that -- about probably.
They'll. I would say -- I was eighteen it's going released three years in almost like he's gonna want for a free agent market but. Yeah that's going to be I think.
I don't think it'll look for twentieth and expects. I think he would I speak can't I don't know but it I think eighteen -- He'd taken eighteen billion dollar iTunes -- would make -- player option for audio or yours or whatever and at worst I'm gonna have a deal 3738 the -- the whole Lotta money.
Are we don't know what the market value will be when you -- the end of next season or even at the end of this season but why wouldn't he and I. The CC sabathia money probably can't get but if he's gonna go and take that discount and go five million less than CC sabathia per year. Why wouldn't you extend that years and.
You're talking about court on the discount the difference. You know holidays. Again. They're not -- I don't -- warrant and got beat them as well -- Is not gonna baker cricket deal on the difference between eight. 18 -- your four year deal. Typical place one wants the wind is gonna hit -- your -- for three years. It is is not gonna be back collapsed probably think about you're talking about a -- league pitcher. Shelf life is well it is -- while not. While -- arm and it happened. Here eat. So lot of other stop in effect apparently bigot when he walked -- it was just like. Me. The city bidding which she wants -- she dropped -- now.
Are but what about Josh Beckett now you 31 years old when your free easy just given Roy Halladay 1820 million dollars. United based discount for three year deal sucks what do you want and use it as a 31 I want 56 years my company team.
It's so very pretty is it -- and a -- deal in order of things we talked about why. You know what it is ultimately hopefully not -- talk about the daughter's -- part of market value but this is the start date you set up. -- after this -- have been excellent break the bank you know.
and nickel back to what you said he's in that it's gonna be sixteen nation and how there's going to be sixteen is now we're up the one each. Expenses is inexpensive --
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I don't blame him at all I don't blame him it'll look pretty good discount. I -- His schedule any. Box. Again.
But here's the issue. If you go wouldn't give up your top prospects to get Roy Halladay. And then you end up a year and a half from now losing Josh Beckett. Because you raised the value the market value in what you paid holiday and Beckett pitching for the Yankees or somewhere.
The purpose yeah you haven't Wilson yeah.
Problems that we everybody gets into is. There's there -- like from a futures point -- are projecting only so far out. Eight gestures you can control -- here at the tears under contract he's not -- not yet he can't. I'd just say okay we'll take you now want rock you'll like it because your bureau Kuwait into somebody are -- so it. I would be curious how far out that -- we project out -- out of Iraq here.
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Let's see how it goes hand in hand if you gonna make the reality deal. You've got to be able to resign Josh Beckett because -- you don't. And they were gonna you're gonna replace Halladay and allegedly used for back you're gonna.
You're you're trying to besides dark -- but he don't. Market. I hit it in others freed up every eat you up prospects treat every year.
You've just given up your best Brosnan. And -- and a also -- and what they -- will argue. Not a lot of -- get to that creates a market -- And now.
You're looking at your you understand it look at the pitching staff. Very differently individual players. Out. They're looking at some. Probability. Starters. At age ten and theirs then and what it got I don't have to pay. -- it got it must order and getting. Four ERA. Which used originally to elect an excellent so it may not -- Look at those -- starting rotation crop now. Put together organized that you give up any and it basher that -- all eight. It's it's it's it's because beyond individual -- I'm not gonna try to -- to stop the rotation or put durable.
You'll always they lost such a unique place to -- also but Beckett has proven he can pitch here doesn't that factor and.
Actually it does it's not. Architecture. At the church to restart. Next shot back. He's he might want I don't eat. -- huge NBA title happily about how much are these -- contract for that. Josh is a priority. It I can't like Josh Beckett like it -- system and the other thing in my -- I --
That's the era I heard it. Credit NASA ought if you can't lock him right now if you go into an extension and apparently that may be the only way you get Allen is the expansion don't blame. I Halladay knees get -- contract when it -- it is it is to get where he wants to be and for the right -- I can't blame it on the other hand. If you're of the Red Sox you gotta be with you Josh Beckett right now because of I'm Josh Beckett you know about it that we do. My guess is that he's gonna look at and say you're. Much. Much more and.
I think my day job just got to work in joint a lot of maintenance department this organization that these people don't just -- the -- barrel back there. Terry like a factor too though -- darker look at major pieces but why they got it it'd it'd be a pitch that got -- so to speak -- And an AP Euro. Impact on my back or by any. Josh Beckett it's become pretty and that's just out there -- and it is. Accused -- seventeen and eighteen million market. Back or out you know out. I'm not sure there's always. I'm not sure it is gonna -- oh million. --
let me just ask you this but yeah -- Wakefield can be pitching in the almost like game how would you handle the catching situation with him.
I would make I would hate to capture -- a -- at the backstop.
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You are greatly ball players about these guys are all stars you think Rosa Martinez wants to beasts Britain back to the backstop but every single match I -- I -- back. Get him at that the that there rather embarrassing for them catch diseases in stocks aren't there are kids there. But he may not be able to our -- differently tonight in late night.
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You know an army -- city today. I can't speak for weight but I never. Really was pitched logic dictated by what it can't be all.
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