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Welcome back to the Baylor college old dale is not here he's on vacation. A guy Ken Rosenthal is very familiar with the sitting in. Michael Felger from Comcast. Speaking -- Ken Rosenthal. The fox sports baseball made and he's brought to you by Rockies ace hardware stores the sweet spot for your home paint and lawn -- projects. Rockies your projects simplified and by Emeka insurance it's not just aren't covered. Italian treat it could be plan. Could -- it could be plan as well Ken Rosenthal what's gone on it's no potted plant without --
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You never know I can I didn't I'm not when you're titles my sources tell me. That you -- now affiliated with MLB network so tell me about that.
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I like that plug and congratulations to him. But now -- can we were talking about pitching earlier in the show up Michael I work. I'm going over some of the great starting pitching the Red Sox that. And also talking about Jonathan Papelbon who are the teams saves record last night. You look at Papelbon -- Mariano Rivera. Who has 500 saved recently. You do you look at those guys as the top to close in the game right now or or you have a different list.
Well there's certainly to all of the top closers and I would need.
Well look it not to include your name is that I really good job quite a side.
By apple bar that's right there with anyone and repair of course is no apparent even though he's not there are terrible.
He is a guy that town out in every year where I'm in yet but -- in the dot.
I would not yet as Carter has been my movement a lot in it -- it. But I couldn't hear them there Lee -- you talk about how close is making. You have those to let up or.
Can I they're based in Baltimore that area I don't know if you're at the Orioles game last letter -- But the Red Sox have a lineup with J. D. Drew leading off Dustin Pedroia in that two -- And Jacoby Ellsbury at seven where he's been for awhile and the way I look at that. I like that lineup and in fact the more icy Jacoby Ellsbury down that bottom third. The more I like him there I just don't I don't see him getting on base like they needed that leadoff spot. I think what he's in the leadoff spot. There's some touching is about him running because why the -- we want to leave it open base. Where that meat of the order coming up but he's more freedom run. And manufactured down at the bottom party ordered. Look just like the I I like the way that line -- look last night in which 82 leading off I think he's an okay leadoff hitter and I'll shut up now get your thoughts on the island.
Now with the Michael and felt very you know. A little bit of a mystery of the wire. It is going to be -- Johnny -- offensively. As they all thought he could beat Ortiz and -- what. If he's black and and not really a leadoff. And I totally -- you bet is on base percentage is not good enough out of there. Jeannie two is not quite leadoff man obviously but this back on base percentage is which is something that a lot of if an actor I like -- He fits perfectly. He had incredible patience he always -- you reasonably good at bat. And the whole thing in the war. So rather than these Bible Belt -- at what speed in the leadoff spot -- allowed him to leave a little bit by dropping him. I like it a lot to is appropriate where you at this stage in his career.
And the -- numbers are much better and to hold in the leadoff spot that solves that problem. But just on JD you know I I think he really is Ken Rosenthal is part. A five tool player I think he has a sneaky good base -- he's instinctive and I think he's a good base runner he makes a lot of fluid place in the field you saw last night was a double short. Of the of the hitting for the cycle and it's it's games like that and just watching him that makes this a frustrating the reason. I get items so hard -- just like him so much I guess is because I think he's so talented and he had that other part to his game if he had intangible. He would be Mickey man and he would be back at a talent but he's just sells soft. That you don't get to see that's the frustrating part in security analysts say Mickey man he just compared that was later Kurds have -- well.
Coal is -- is not unrealistic. Well Michael. We talk about fall and we all have our small one kitty -- at this point in his career is not going to change who he would. And all those people were so many years on the -- Whoever you want to name. What they wanted more at a it is more passion more in -- it whatever that is -- it. They're not yet. And this is doing here and -- is they're very good player albeit one of those frustrated -- frequently because. -- spelled BOZ. Button being that the fire that you would want. -- You have to be to be where he is in -- it's all quite obviously there are shortcomings there. And again north prospect and actually it pretty yet.
Speaking of imperfect guys and ask you about Manny I can't remember -- we went over this last weekend obviously so I'll decide I'll ask you again from a different angle. Do you think. There's going to be any. Revisiting. Of the loophole in some people's minds that allows players who were suspended for steroid use. To rehab and Miley I personally don't have a problem with that but you think that's something that will be changed. In the next year to.
I don't call it back elect that last week Michael but I have a little bit more information on and it is -- One I know that because most are not pleased with this whole situation. I don't and that it would be -- it does what -- expire in 2011. But at some point they might say hey what what it is what. Ask -- another. -- There are truly see why it. It always is like one of the most obvious one is that. Players association want the protection of the players that essentially at the games that you did not become a sixty game suspension. Because in my early on that would be required. So they didn't want another word anymore prying. Away from the game in warned it by the pension. I understand. The other part of mr. and understand even better. It kind of explained the rationale even more. It's being involved in this case the doctors. They're not responsible. For many. -- the pop. Up toward it. And if you were out for more than it being. In an area we just got in there will be penalized. And that really -- buried. So while it I don't weeks old but I don't like it either in our rationale or. -- Maybe you change the number of being next agreement -- make it it is with the assignment. Included however you want it a lot of people have expressed its intent that.
I thought Bob Ryan was going to pop -- on on TV one credo obviously I argued last week against this. I don't I didn't have a major problem with the then. I don't have a major problem with that now because I think ultimately. It's a fifteen game suspension. From the Major League club like you can pay down everything I didn't date and he is suspended fifty games and LA Dodgers are really the problem.
I don't I don't feel especially passionate about it one way or the other I happen to agree with the people who made it doesn't see -- I believe. But this same idea right.
He is on the that the game is it in our -- and that is he panel.
Obviously if they want to revisit that they can but it's not something they're gonna reopen a collective bargaining agreement about off.
Can we talk what this'll last night Tim Wakefield chances for the All-Star game just give -- the landscape handicap his chances in a thought on TV you rates have been very interesting. That may or may not get back to versus -- to think about. Who the -- asked to catch him if he does play in the All-Star game.
Right. And it competitive game Michael if they hope -- be banished the World Series been decided so. You'd have to consider these things aren't simply give a player and said he might deserve. -- have a problem. To me. I would love to see him on the on the act like -- achievement award. But it -- first half granted the is that investment -- American eight. But I would doubt he's going to make it -- because -- the other quality players that are out. In a way. A guy like wait -- if someone. If they should always be replaced or on the -- are up one place you just for a guy who made it caught on a mile phone. Maybe a guy -- belong -- distinguished service. I would love to see that happen. But as presently. Put together. But not the way to rosters -- thought I would bet the longshot but I thought it.
Yeah well what if you know I'm retired -- this through Josh Beckett is scheduled to pitch of everything the no rain outs and one not scheduled to pitch on the Sunday. Before the All-Star weekend and let's say he's not available like -- take that slot.
Because -- you might want another it's picnic -- well. Likely if I would -- Maddon and I wanted to Red Sox pitcher that would happen if Red Sox pitcher -- almost. -- I don't win the game there's been an estimate of one status spoke with today like bill Cole Hamels if not as a at this point. So. It's more of a complicated decision then it then say. They'll bet it that way about.
You know it. No trade the trading deadline is about a month away. We're going to see a lot of deals we saw one already with the cardinals picking up two -- Do you think. It just for example of the Red Sox run it to some major problems. With Michael Holmes say ethical on the DL he doesn't respond you think there any third baseman out there. That are on the market with the Red Sox might Beatrice and.
Not -- third base but certainly there are first day. And with the ability like you with both of which is when you made it big button that where. They can go that route. That job with this all we hoped would sit there are others as well. But the market is won't let of course first they edited the -- and I imagine that that is the direction it would sell.
Or you think about that situation can. Michael all he needs an injection they'll figure it out the next couple days he's if he's gonna on the DL this seems pretty ominous to me for a guy who missed. The entire post season are almost the post season. And really struggled down the stretch to seems pretty ominous. That he is having some concerns here in June what do you think about.
Well I'm ready to write his epitaph just yet but you're right Michael Mann is coming off serious surgery. And all the talk about Iraq in the past we've missed about how he had struggled come back a little bit as good. Well -- surgery I don't know what exactly people can expect. Almost rip the early on it even. Like he's wearing down on the and that is it into this -- It's sort of a new injury in baseball both uncharted territory at some betrayed by. What this statement is typical and he would show. Is tremendous -- in the last year at the way he did and then it is in common law with the rehabilitation. So yes something about our -- you know and the great thing about their mission and one they have financial flexibility -- they have up there. They can basically do what ever they want you want that -- quote.
What and let's see who's available I think the consensus I think a lot of people said -- and spring training was the economy lot of teams are going to be in trouble. Some of these midwestern teams got a fallout Detroit has not right. It's all it but we were all thinking that come middle of July there's -- fire sales and it all these great players available across the league for reasonable prices. Do you think that. Has or will come to fruition I think Cleveland maybe it started but Derosa as Mike said. Is Martinez on the block and has that whole market the ball the way we thought it would.
No I don't see that aren't your solution in the way you describe that inspired it without money and just making no mistake if they know. With Cleveland. It will trade on the other potential creates problem. Cheney -- all -- all Obama to -- Betancourt. If those guys are healthy and he'd want them. I'd be surprised if trait would be even more surprised that created Martinez. Simply because they don't want to give up on next here as well this year and that -- you -- Both those guys are affordable club option in you don't need -- just don't mind at least this point while it happened. It would be and that should be it seller by the addition of their understanding. They're about seller in the classic almighty god what it reminded. The worst seller if they can make the proper baseball trade if he insisted that there won't keep now artists and look at the right Leo well it.
Cannot get a follow up on that conversation we have with the scout who said Jon Lester is right there -- Cole Hamels. Well what was the context and and and tell us some other things that the -- about Lester.
Yeah -- had -- out boarded would have been left -- in what he said was that in terms of within its borders right now. He's. Faster. And you. -- pair of eyes and let he without. Despite the fact that -- with them all up there in -- Obviously written ball a little bit better but not the changeup and -- But it goes order form. Just in terms of there's. And what you've accomplished and he is golden -- at a picture now but that was there.
You know I know where Boston and and most of us are homers here except for Michael blogger -- is above board and most objective journalist -- their post doesn't let Leo -- sent. What about it -- don't.
Like it -- but we're talking about. There's quite as -- got held up there was web site -- you know what. The parent in my head that Campbell what is different pictures it that it Hamels changeup. But it it -- you know the left. If it is right there with apple of course been added that the pop back conversation but -- very belt but -- it.
it -- I look at it this -- I was gonna say I know this is maybe a Boston bias but look at the way Lester has been strong lately. In the way Josh Beckett has been -- lately I just find it hard to believe that any other any other team in the American League. Can throw to guys like that that you during a series in really shuts you down to use the.
I qualified bad because there's a new internationally and has it. Effort this stuff won't determine came right now. Or I would suggest that went about it and than their non is pretty -- is -- accommodation is fantastic and it's something that really didn't let our national board.
And as far as Lincecum we -- get to a on this we talked about this have been. Maybe last week -- couple weeks ago bombardier Q system about the next year. For young pitchers well unfit to be affecting Lincecum -- at least it didn't warn us last start or Leicester let's go.
It doesn't have fought and there's them actually in my opinion and I believe that -- in the is quite now. Now Michael -- at least in pitchers who have -- used -- by it applies more often than not. And that is what at what point he thought that receipt of New York State spot with an interest we'll watch it to be concerned about because. I'm only speaking wouldn't make. A fugitive on as a young pitcher if the problem down the road. Let's face it guys just get it in July -- on the didn't know what was the one of those.
We're going to be this weekend -- in. I don't know maybe -- that it may make. -- well -- a San Diego and me. Not a plane Thursday morning then it of their ego you -- this adoration it's going to be like I'm Manny. Manny was out with a broken com or broken leg and available in San Diego they'll -- anybody they -- bottles.
Yet it it correspond. It's going to be interesting actually because they were very alt -- bonds went in back.
I have but to those don't have many would open that Dodger Stadium.
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