Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated

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Absolutely nothing going to be no big upgrades. Are you on the world. You know -- effect or even working and they want to go out and this to this are you are you -- New York right now.

Well actually cobbled on the beach. I am in and you were anticipating the first replace the -- then completely. -- you know not looking forward to a lot except for -- and that is that.

Well let's start with the big trade and I've got my quotation fingers up Shaquille O'Neal. Dealt to the Cleveland Cavaliers -- the -- think this is a great deal for Cleveland.

Well it that it. It's -- reward the guys because you know on one hand Shaq can be that. That dominating inside presence off a that we indeed that politically -- and -- the -- but doubt it very good player for Cleveland. For a very long time but he also has -- isn't that that insight or should not shot blocker. He that inside score integrate got shoot from fifteen to eighteen feet away I think -- outlook any big men -- not that. That it committee present that -- it saw that and yeah yet again and trade but -- fox went out Shaq and it would depend quite hard won a won the perimeter. I want -- want to -- you quote in the going to command Indian black out. He cut on the -- in -- crate they're gonna do -- it will all day you know let bread and -- why you guys saw. First and that bought the periods in particular all the gonna put it got Turkoglu if you come back Rashard Lewis and technical situation and make check the and that we've seen. Collapsed in sixteen years Jack is one of -- not be -- big man. At between the girl movie so electric so advocated that very is a very I'd -- political -- but also a huge huge --

Let's say Chris. I agree with you in the pectoral defensive Shaq. I disagree. On the huge risk because what did they give up they gave up -- and they gave up Ben Wallace each act is a lot I mean it this thing is a disaster. What Cleveland actually --

Well now not what they want Mike -- that they ate it up to help that law is the bargaining -- they locker potential. And other deal that might be out there have been no quick because have been accompanying need maybe a little bit more could be -- Carter could be. You know it it could be major wall where they gave up. You know what they could populate the Vietnam at any bargaining chip if anybody anything anybody --

It's sparring here. And they got Shaq in in the last year of his contract that's my little.

You know what the Big Apple right now. They've been popular right now they they -- to -- The supply LeBron James with the region disdain in Cleveland's bench and maybe Shaq backed peace may they believe that but. Maybe not I'm a little pride that -- make labor Richard Jefferson and reject some of the available. Admit it what Milwaukee getting hamper. For Bruce -- Alberto and then Kurt Thomas immediately an epic got default like. Deal but the spurs. And I'd in the labor and -- jackets and it probably better typically that is not what I like to play up. Have bought an independent little bit I mean he's -- I've -- seem to be a better fit that Shaq not indicate what they think are what guys I'm. They say they gave up their only leverage to make a better -- it later in the these are lecturing at.

Well let's look at it from Cleveland perspective they do take a risk -- you say. But let's say you know Shaq gives them a reasonably year they let him walk at the end of the year they not only can resigning LeBron James they can -- Pick any but guy you want from the max contract let's that you want us to sign because we got the spot form we'll bring him in next year.

Yeah I mean that that that that the pot belly and I applaud them for keeping. -- cap -- you know with which Jack up the books but. I gotta I gotta believe that the most important thing for the cat is winning that seat and an anabolic said that you know -- people abroad due to celebrate the parade. -- unclear the mid June and then leave the team in early July. You know it they ended up to be absolutely positively convinced that chat it got out there when the -- and I'm not sure that yet you know for the reasons we enumerate the -- I think there's a lot. Lot of risk involved with the deal.

You know when you phrase it that way. A might become an over two years that the street because I think. It does make them better does that make them the best team in basketball no it doesn't but I think you make it to.

And -- like it and won't eliminate one he created Shaq gonna. Active against bought and you really need him against the Celtics would not really need any did not Padilla. A huge quartet that is he gonna be effective against Washington what they can going to be tremendously improved next -- now he's going to be a huge liability when make our quick pick overall day. I mean it really just a little -- made. To counteract the effect that one player on one team and I don't think it really does that because I think that they're gonna put him in so many pick and roll situations check out. We are all the -- white.

Okay I know you're the man asked on this Chris what is the story with Rajon Rondo and will he be a Celtic. Next year.

I think it looked at and it held say definitively if you'll be at Celtic I know there. -- awkward have been real yup Detroit was real hot and some of the opposite commitment that they -- a little more smoke and fire. Been down there I think they would. -- make a deal that number two pick I think -- it that Barack Rondo was. You talked about in those deals but hey there's been a lot a lot of -- sit around and I would say that definitely that he would. Absolutely on the trading block he is available they'll make calls about topics as we've we've seen with Detroit call are making overtures on their -- but. I'm a little surprised by -- I really -- I think that what they think Rondo and try to break the bank next year are they really believe that he's. He's on culture bullet heard and then and then not they want to build -- around. I can make any huge mistake of -- window is really computers right now. I mean they didn't make it even one year -- This -- only one year that the win another title they have to -- the players that are most effective at winning this year I think Rondo is that good it's not bad. Eight player that they could possibly get a return and so I think you'd be huge. Huge mistake to deal him at this point.

Well let's talk about the issues that Rondo had this year because the Celtics have been surprisingly forthcoming about those issues. Is this guy a problem with coach -- day and to manage for this team.

Well I think a little bit difficult you know for the people out -- within -- organizational. You know report date I think he has. Had I guess what that -- it over to overeat at a moment. You know what not accept that Coke consistently get the culprit got such -- our source are along those lines he's going to guided. Pat come on coach will moments where he's been adopted these you know like -- have been very cooperative opposition you don't. Just stubborn at times very with the inability that the change or a -- to duck development team in the direction that -- might want -- so what they cannot. He had. At the mission that but I do believe that one of the -- that that that -- not a big guy -- the hometown discount in Bosnia. Hit it that it that the European team equipment that that -- you know Oklahoma City that offered him a break the bank thank you. He'd take it it not battling for time let anything get in the open market it becomes a free agent I. I think that's got to play are really huge factor in the side all the drama.

Chris I'm a little confused and I needed help me out here you said that Detroit offer. Was real from Boston to Detroit it was -- Detroit to Boston.

I would -- bought into Detroit -- made by made by. Blustery second -- department about not what made by any aid but it was they want that -- it.

Okay if it was made out okay -- help me out here rip Hamilton signed the contract extension. And in November he's got four years left in his contract. A Tayshaun Prince is going to be making eleven million dollars in 2000. 102011. And I don't think Rodney Stuckey is as good as Rondo. So. What's the motivation for me I think it's an awful trade what do you thing.

Well I don't think it's an awful trade because I mean I guess there where we've we divert them like in the -- Rodney Stuckey he's -- to develop. -- Armed with you in return you -- you've got to be part your -- the next couple years in print and and Hamilton are still relatively young guys -- rent the players you know looking at. No one year iChat you know -- attitude I think going to be. No I don't part of that the court that in with Peterson with Compaq. For the next few years -- we even without out you still have some solid. It is they're not that you'd still art. You do that -- still watch it Egypt team in the contend next season. With that kind of trade he was on that would be debilitating expects applicable won't not while eight. He really outdated in I think that's really carry over coming in the next season it he's still on the -- bought in Europe on I don't that. -- actually about well and -- because without getting back.

I don't like that team at all wind into. You take yourself by you know which -- spec has gone out of his way to say we can be players in the summer of 2002 and what you take yourself out of that mix by adding. They shoppers have been Tayshaun Prince is a fine player crisp but. Maybe five or six million dollars more per season that I would say so yeah I've ever done I really don't feel that one.

Yeah you know what does that make you an accent even after one of our Comcast shows that has that he is that. They're going to be a player they -- declared I think the and -- extreme and a little bit about about it's nice to imagine a scenario a whopping get into the bidding for one of the big creative rather posture waiter. I've got a bit LeBron and that -- but 11 with that he's he's not taking into account you know the they have to pay Rondo they have to pay. Some of their other bring it to get them to stay and block you know wanted like the day. That okay GAAP 25 million dollar cap space -- comes up the books and in it Rondo comes off the books -- the you know what you want what do with Kevin Garnett. And potentially Dwyane Wade in that with the NBA. Changing the way it is with with all the teams are re loading you know look at Antonio the lakers -- they're getting better and better. Every it I'll pick up and not which advocates -- put a lot of stock in the public actually being. Up players in up big time players like in the topics. Have to do not in ought to question -- I do think they absolutely. Do is make a -- actually create -- about you know leader Antonio McDyess or grain billable they'll probably. Both those guys if you look at the -- Eastern Conference bloating up. -- look at the with a way to opt in what a -- not mean there are so many top contenders they're not under factoring in wear Rasheed Wallace goes whether it's Cleveland. Oh whether the Antonio what do you ideological commitment that there are so many copies I don't think -- and has -- take trying to get. Cinematic need to -- to. Big time blasts in free agency spent money go well the logic -- threshold that any chance of being -- analysts in the.

I was wondering about that I I get the feeling doc would have preferred add. Significant talent to this year's team and I'm not talking Mikki Moore and Stephon Marbury. If -- and it might feel that he wanted to add people to this year's team I know we wants to Adam to next year's.

Oh absolutely I think that you know I think cup with crushed when he another adjustment the -- got bought out here called the situation back then any Joe would. Initially traded in the warned that it rescinded and torture be going to get bought out they had to make a move on Mike Mort what they did at. Bubbled up dropped -- spot. It might of the bill which are in a note to local Peter to point out that while you the contract mobile city Kevin Garnett was caught him. -- the kind try to recruit him. Become the Balkans on it was obviously. Emphasis on getting that the in. The play that PJ -- back roll -- is on the way out to me hey you know Margaret had some nice moments that much more complete disaster. And Margaret what the Internet -- appointments I think that they have to make because Lackey can't wait til til February to see if somebody's gonna get bought out. Do it now get to spend that entire continent exception on the ballot indictment may be hope -- grant milk who had in the -- It -- them money to play for contender immediately put the one point eight million exception of Phoenix. The play that you are hoping he would do the same thing can come to contender Bob is you -- those -- next to personal guide you to play multiple positions I think that put bought -- In a very good position to dig into an elected.

Celtics don't pick until 58 overall at the moment in tonight's draft. I'm not sure it matters because by all accounts this is it that a draft as we've seen maybe even since 2000.

Yeah yeah and you know it's funny had a reading with any that -- was -- community you know you're way. Our recently and it has more polite is eleven GM the said that I deleted all the record ways that this is an absolute -- any better it. Very open about it being be it parable about I think that I eat out later -- about the pop. Really three -- like activity in the show about how to operate that yeah a lot of it's like changing your Derek in changing talent out there and so I don't see any reason what ought be. I will or should negate the -- late first round pick in the past I think you know. A lot of teams try to you know the first round pick one of the European. -- It will receive important with it and has been doing for years in -- stockpile them let them develop bilateral look -- pay them. And -- them under contract that might be the -- the balked -- that -- that the he would pick I knew in the background.

You know you alluded to this earlier Chris and I'm convinced I gotta I -- theory. If it Gregg Popovich. Is alone in a bar with Giselle -- indulgent. I think you can take her from Tom Brady. I made this man is it picking you as the money is the biggest sweet talker the most charismatic guy out you have to be. That is a brilliant. Trade that he made they'd just so far ahead of other team when it comes to personnel.

They really are OK to credit the topic but all the credit but he developed member Democrat it would work and it and opera numbered -- Oklahoma City has. As unbelievably turn that into. You know on the brink of becoming -- really really scary opposite without the team. Early next season -- he -- is one of the most. Intelligent international about -- minds in the business when -- that we would stumble understaffed meat puppet hit you on the Sony is. You know local -- he's out there that where he's he's making the final decision but he cannot -- got a discount any coaching that team. And not really involvement did they operations but you know you gotta give them credit they never in the never overpaid guys they would give guys. -- Not there he Kurt Thomas and finally here the deal they have beat -- an architect or an unequaled time. Ebert not able the technique contract are you know are just so so valuable to implicated but -- also. You know you gotta give them credit for doing it right wait for the last decade. Don't come close to being amnesty and anything can be I don't think that is Obama Biden ticket he right now of the piazza got by the -- can't right now. To win that title if they're healthy I think that -- he's about to leave that trade lead that -- This is one of five and with a very deep that going to get better what Roger Mason goes back to it. And what George -- is that now with -- very very how to be an experienced team I think will be up front runner but I don't like it.

Yeah you know what I think I might agree with you why I feel like that team has reached his limit with its current personnel -- Mobley was banged up Duncan. Is still an effective player but you know not a top two top three player anymore. -- Tony Parker a very good player but he can't lead a team they needed. An infusion of somebody else and number three you're number four. A guy wouldn't have to be number one they had and they have I was one no I don't know about jealous Illinois during the finals. Well when. Mark Jackson kept saying about the lakers they're going to be a team that have to be dealt with for years to come not really maybe not even next year.

Now I think that you know again it comes not help it's you know we've been so banged up last couple years and they actually can't win without -- is there. They're -- court player but. You know if you would help in that and that the final two years ago I think that they would -- out LA and then against bought them. And that and it -- I really feel it I think that Jefferson the way he's able to play ball weigh in on electable Kuwait and it can be -- What -- as it grew Milwaukee when he sort -- carried that would Michael righthander Bogut went out in. Cap or present some low post and make jump shot China -- a career high. -- percent from report does not report win this year which is going to be huge weapon I don't are there any also a tremendous tremendous fast break I note sent photos never been known. -- up and vote you pick up the dark in parker until that want to play that -- parker sometime in a one man outbreak has got like. Duncan and Michael Finley -- I don't I don't want to run -- what the -- I mean -- you told -- only you want to -- he -- Paycheck -- into it because it'll be easy buckets. He's it would get in -- transition with New Jersey you can have a lot of similar situation with Antonio looking parker right that you meant fast break and getting easy buckets like think that the -- He really -- that that round pick out all I bet that I -- let me how it's all I'd trade. What art.

There anything that can save tonight's shell other than the high fashion items will be looking at.

But obvious security equipment. Does that mean I love Chris Wallace the man nobody in pop music got -- if you blow that trap heat there beat and I mean you cannot.

Say yeah he's a friend of mine and I -- I'd I'd take a bullet or.

But you are a lot you don't take issue of the you've got to do it and I think he's crazy but don't I mean -- how how you can cut. Ricky rubio app you've dropped 87 point guard and a lot for years and trade -- the point it's been out there yet trapped -- potential franchise altering like iPod -- really wants to replace it. Partly -- I think it would to collect it I think Blake grip and that can that number one he's going to be at all -- I think Ricky rubio candidate Steve Nash. -- indicate type player a couple of years I really -- I mean it's got it. Limit the potentially only weakness. Is that it's pitcher Josh got what you couldn't you'd jump shot -- came at the league Michael -- you toward the shooter and all the that you are one of the computer. In the NBA when the packet together in three short years went by the way going to be 21 point three year old. He is going to be franchise player that we have met the -- on him because they're scared -- a -- white or. A -- one you got paid for and which you'd -- could be partly -- via -- patient. I'm in Barcelona I think that they're making it colossal mistake is that I is that it but did a team altering property in -- up.

I've got to Robert Iger said Danny -- Am odd times say that. I was gonna say you know what Kristen smells like a bet the smells like a back -- our cattle at a veterans don't understand is our standard that how bad to a box. A pop but -- pizza. That. That this guy will not be a franchise a threat -- I don't see that.

I'm yeah -- I've only -- in the development YouTube -- that as a lot I mean. Use and you but believe any respect in his opinion engine -- opinion but. -- a lot of by the GM never quite are gonna give me something new about review group of people out whether it's. -- on the floor ability be playmaker we want -- only. The other day that you know want things they Beirut like rubio but he's at eighteen yet respectable teammates in -- and Spain and that the big thing that most it can make there. -- 2728 years old -- economic competence and an eighteen year old really because. Speak on his -- kind of player that will be I mean about. Tony Parker making equipment humans and killed eight in nineteen year old you are playing well. Report -- and he also couldn't shoot the ball you put in with the a shooting coach like Japan -- that Antonio all the sudden parker one of the most dangerous point guard in the league I think he can rubio. Developing it and back. Why are so cool I expect that from you Mike and -- eating more we'll keep this from you in the future.

aside upset about all I -- a whole lot. We're not out not how does this flies I'd say eight bread stick not just the reds the -- the narrative read the sixth and property as beat.

Chris well -- appreciate time thanks for joining us. You -- address asthmatic Sports Illustrated and SI dot com joining us on the eighteenth -- hotline AT&T. Your world the --