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Tue, 23 Jun 2009|

Ken talked about Donald Fehr retiring and his impact on MLB, Manny Ramirez playing minor league games during his 50-game suspension, and the issues with Dice-K

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  1. Delmon Young9:51, 9:59
  2. Major League Baseball0:32, 0:36, 3:59
  3. Manny Ramirez7:30, 9:03
  4. Doug Davis15:21
  5. Brad Penny17:34
  6. John Smoltz16:07
  7. Pedro Martinez19:01
  8. Florida Marlins12:06
  9. Alex Rodriguez12:00
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Every Tuesday at 1210 we talked with Ken Rosenthal from fox sports. Brought to buy rockies' ace hardware stores the sweet spot for -- your home paint and lawn care projects Rockies year project simplify. And Miami insurance. It's not just tiger covered its -- you're treated good afternoon -- Oreo. I'm great thanks you wrote today in a big story in baseball today. Use the impending retirement nine months from now of Donald -- I would think that if I were a player in Major League Baseball I would be looking at his retirement with regret. If I'm a fan of Major League Baseball he can't get gone quick enough for me.

Well I don't have -- effect -- so much and certainly. You have that dour countenance.

He doesn't always speak. His passion for the game like is it that they're here somewhere. You have to remember it now -- your job. Was not sleep debt. While your job was --

And that's what you put. Above everything else.

And with the exception of disparities. In which I believe they'll --

You have the day he was a pretty successful guy considering the success.

And the way it is involved in these more than a quarter century you'd been. --

Yeah that's like saying. With the exception of you know despite the fact no I you know afoot to short to play in the NBA have been successful. I like that's what it.

it. It is huge and a look at our what has our attention now what I wrote about today what it does not. Find entire point pocket and it can happen. Perhaps because if you look at what independent perspective. But. If you look at what you've done all they did it get a complicated and mediate. I think traction at all fighting -- salad -- would never implemented it is what and what every other sport. I don't -- leader of that the -- can do that laws need to find that their earlier but. I don't know that there. That there have been the pot but Billy about it when this or debate that's incredible gain financially on that is what what what it felt like. So we can -- And it doesn't I would look devote my blood complicated issue -- that -- people but what I'm more than 15 years.

Let me ask you this can is baseball healthier or not because of no salary cap the other sports have one baseball doesn't is that good for baseball or not.

Equipment catalog. That would expand in -- city news and salary cap that seems like yankees and Red Sox would be like in a lot. My answer it. What's wrong sport in terms of competitive -- Out there isn't a pure cap.

And yet you'd like yankees in the -- you spend more it reduces their margin for error.

But at what they want last year. In Oakland and Minnesota and other franchise would time. It is not possible. Is likely.

Inequity. In my mind create a little bit of a different kind of panic and -- one that is not.

Unhealthy for the sport. If those who think the -- clapping because of that I hope we do revenues and dependent -- the -- and everything else has been on the upland. For really the past by ten years old now because the economy.

And I get Biden to say that not having a salary cap isn't bad but baseball I -- by.

If you're a fan who feels that that you've been priced out of of Major League Baseball and that bringing your wife and two kids to a game. Is something you can't consider doing at the moment. How much blame the give Donald -- for that.

Very little. I I don't do that model is issue. Is will chart the ticket what they get -- and at the of the matter how money. Players getting paid eight million dollars. He has little -- what the market there as a market bears. It like it will talk. With the Yankees -- did this year they -- Well. And that paper that put up or shut a little bit. And bingo bowl so I don't blame battle beer forgetting his people the most possible money. I don't know that it necessarily was caught ticket because skyrocketing. And yet. I'd look at it and I thought I thought people out there look at it from. The perspective of a player. If you're a player you want someone like here representing you in cities that much as possible. But what the goal that put the appropriate. And it's really hard it -- guy for doing his job out of our I have a real problem.

In April. Ought to find out about it like it but I'm not. While in up in a fox sports poll that part of your story 6489. People voted. How do you view Donald fear 15%. Say in a positive light. 56%. Say in a negative light 29%. Say I don't feel strongly one way or the other.

Dale if they red fox was not comfortable they had heat build up can -- people right now. It is they've kind of.

You do better than Donald -- right thank.

I don't know it up. -- deductible happening played a positive vibrations.

Well look at this the last thing I'll say about a salary cap okay and the Yankees. Have made the playoffs. Prep from 1995. The president they've made the year made the playoffs every single year. Except for last year that they do that. Because they're just really smart. And have great scouting and player development what do they do epic -- outspend everybody else.

I don't without point and I would that debt that having a bit unit quite yet. Not that well you didn't they win. Over the well.

agree with that -- He didn't read OK now let your scene and blown off the opposite like them but there are people in this country that you didn't just another vote of the --

I don't mind. From the sport respective. He's in BC. -- like I actually like I think it helped. In the NFL the -- NFL.

Did you say the global sport. And it ought -- because of the cap cap forces you.

Do you think you're teen. Set have helped the team win. And it is probably that the but that a bottle and people are.

I understand that there are walnut system as well into mediocrity that debate NFL made it not a good thing. I perhaps a little bit of it. Eighteen villain this behavior that we see in the long obviously. It is not wholly ruining the sport competitive ballot I would challenge anyone over the.

Tonight Manny Ramirez will be in the lineup for the Albuquerque sixties is are they the 6866. I thought I I -- inland empire was the isotopes as an Albuquerque.

Well they -- data which one.

Yeah anyway he'll be in the line up for Albuquerque tonight each one of his at bats will be shown live on ESPN news. As as a fifteen year old fan told ESP on this morning he's a cheater but I want to see imply. And as his suspension doesn't expire until July 3. What do you think about the collectively bargained ability. To play up to ten minor league rehab games in preparation for the return to the majors. Our question.

And to me if you're suspended with it being. -- suspended for the entire is that I'm in terms of forming a baseball player. It won't hear me or spend -- game that -- could -- that assignment act as if not what. This immediate one of the things that I'd like you got it that's what the bargaining agreement.

Not like it makes very little sense and it makes parchment a little harsher.

Which is going to be argument all day today and that's that the way it goes. This is why I think it makes sense because of that said -- above where it came on 1520 minutes ago. The spirit of the suspension has been fulfilled Major League Baseball wants to take away fifty games. From Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers -- went to hurt him. As far as harshly as they could by taking away fifty games -- page they want to hurt the Dodgers. Successful on both counts what's the problem.

I agree that but this time. There is something congress about is suspended and hit play in the -- Maybe if you're gonna do it do it. And while the punishment actually would not be all that much different but it -- back that you week later. Still. In my mind what brought. It up in Europe and -- won't -- you disagree on this but I just don't like it.

We had a question earlier and maybe you know the answer to this cause we we couldn't find Delmon Young was suspended for fifty games while playing in the minor leagues. For the Tampa Bay affiliate. Could the Tampa Bay Rays have brought Delmon Young up to the Major League roster and played in during his minor league suspension.

I don't Soviet Tibet. That it means there's no but. It really is our point.

Because you're actually at the same thing there were talking about a -- and again you're suspended he should be suspended for bit offbeat yet. Not pay income then get ready now it will hold. I thought.

Let's talk about. Of a pitcher that a lot of Boston fan to the Boston fans don't like right now in who's in Fort Myers trying to work himself out. And that's Daisuke in your opinion what happened simple question.

I don't know and I know there's a lot of attention didn't it is understandably felt.

Looked at it. And got the call at this -- the east side. There -- There was some concern by people up as a threat but what they. Said they skated I was gonna -- it is.

That need it is someone who won't throw loan. And certain people. Wondered how long outlook --

Now while. We've got now and certainly make it very strong case what happened that -- BC didn't expect it and I believe that it. There's also the other side. That this guy only has some people like any pitcher. In that at some point it was going to expire.

They -- at that point.

Maybe not but that is something I wonder about and again going back that he did -- we talked about this before. That bought new when they -- it when they spent all the money.

That they do plan that he uses. It not -- common supply.

One of the things that we were discussing early on was the the two games off that Alex Rodriguez got while his Yankee teammates were playing. In his hometown against the Florida Marlins. He admitted in print that he had been waiting to play in Miami for five to seven years. That he was going to have a hundred tickets out with family and his mom was going to come see him play in the Boys and Girls Club where he had played his baseball all that. And they set him down for two games. Where they try to punish him.

Now.

In my mind is totally related to. It hit. Circuitry. Try to come back. In play every day which was never really.

And the idea that an arrest them once a week if the whole lot worse and and the idea of daylight just keep going out.

A total war and hate -- for all it all acceptable as they can even with players need to rest like Herat but. I believe that this whole issue. Is overblown. And the punishing in court yet. With Torre about it.

Doctor holt but I didn't need a break need to -- now let it. --

A question we've asked a lot here and it and then in the last couple days in this going back to -- just for a second. Is. Was Dice-K worth the money for the Red Sox with it worth it 51 million dollar post in the 52 million dollar contract which are.

Right now at that look good that was our -- 133 games left years certainly wouldn't meeting will contribute. But we're talking about a long term deal and we're talking about the totality that just the salary but the post well. We'll look at it judges thought. And we still don't know how it's going at all come -- if he doesn't. It better if you certainly. Shows that are edited picture -- what two years. Thought that they would work. I know it gave them and Goodwill in Japan and change their marketing. And Europe but. Without it also most port and at a baseball player. Yet but well but not what we thought at that point of the and Bob Ryan wrote in the book is great call. I was opened it to 95 all where are unbelievable secondary thought and we haven't even. Though. At this moment so that the quest in the deal but I'm not ready to say yet he won't work while. If you come back it is well and then all next several years it about the same pitcher he was. What -- he's starting pitcher today that the review by.

We -- six weeks away from the Major League trading deadline. I read with interest a quote from Josh Byrnes the Arizona general manager last week on mlb.com. When he said it's the middle of June were ten games under 500 so I think there's a reality as far as the types of discussions we have had. And will have with -- other clubs sounds like a guy who's getting ready to be a seller.

They'll they'll and they know that they have.

But it also get to the question of what you. They have some interest in -- But in the not to be jumping up and now Doug Davis. I couldn't jumping up and now we don't call it wanted not to -- whose contract is. Favorable supplier -- on the option and it. So all of that the guy who at value is no doubt about that and they've got from others as well but. I don't expect designed that to be as significant -- and video will be literally it's. What it is they obviously over the next six weeks LP which means fallout. Right now you talked not only a handful really that it themselves. It's -- but there will be more we built another that dime back that --

Ten out what to the scouts you know tell you about John Smoltz and stuff.

Well I've heard. A couple of different. Is that he's not -- what we know it's expected videos got more. What I've heard is that right now I resembled more of a number portable five that's sort of a lot is now what was the great. Secondary stuff is now otherwise. But. While one out hold me hey I hope you conserving his energy either pointing out that that look that great overall. Now -- is -- different. And that's the one thing about in the net in this situation picture reluctant to day. It's not go to work. -- competitiveness is not that you'll be on the baseball field that the other people can't. And while the Braves certainly included. It's important I wanted to be. -- particular that they cannot but help me. I can't -- this guy I know -- and he did rapidly but this guy is it. Is it possible that this is the candidate but honestly therefore it is entirely possible in April the apathy. Probably more likely than not. I'm anxious to see just happened there and just how this goes back just awards start several.

A couple of years ago Brad Penny was one of the best pitchers in the National League injuries obviously a huge problem a year ago the Red Sox took a chance. He's looked good hero of light leading me to believe that he'll continue to look good but leaving Michael to believe that. There will never be a better time to -- now on this guy because it because up throws a couple of conquers his trade value diminishes which camper US.

Michael certainly is right.

That. Is value might be peaking at the moment is exceeded.

Is the only thing I've straight quality start it elite club. But it -- the red dot. I'll put that. He's shown he can handle the level of competition. Which as we all know it not he punitive.

So.

There off the obviously we're not tight enough that the movement. And at that point just stick with it and it worked so. But only get maybe better -- orchestrate. But I hope that it. Is he continued is that some reasonable hope and they were -- it's like fifty. I buckled this will the -- very well. And value will be that much higher because he would have done this for a longer period. The market certainly don't look it's going to be boarding or equality party pictures. And they did you get the values and look for.

Well speaking of a shrinking market it appears that the a list of teams interested in Pedro Martinez is dwindling by the day is he got to find a taker.

Not if you want particularly contract. And that continues to be. -- Principal is black point -- Good news that was signed into -- feel he is such as the company repaid that look at immortal -- at the store. No one want to pay this guy or the other pitcher. In his. Category. -- dollars. When you don't know what you're gonna get when you're not going to get it right away. So that the holdup right now he wanted great now look at body body what you are and it was one of those things that. You do that I pulled. There's simply don't like the -- and others certainty that but I cannot do it at all but it yet. Isn't quite as if with a walk and fatally contract he's going to have a top.

Where you'd be spending your Saturday afternoon. Chicago -- it was pretty fun last that's fantastic.

Quality but in the this one is in cellular field a -- field and lot of people always about greatly in how -- it is there any idiot like if it -- passport. Or wiped out crowd pretty good.

They're they're and they're completely different crowds to him they really. It makes sense I mean there's. If you want to talk about a profile there's a profile of a White Sox fan there's a profile. And a cubs fan and you really can't you can't root for both the mean it's one of the other clearly.

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