What should Roger Goodell do with Vick?

We bring this up only because I'm still waiting. For the first press release to be released by an organization that does not -- Bruins forward blank undergoes successful surgery in this case it's Phil -- were happy underwent successful surgery. Repaired a torn rotator cup and labor -- his left shoulder. According to the release sent out by the Bruins. The surgery will force -- to miss approximately six months that's in their release by the way. You know what Larry -- theory on this is it's always longer than than what the medical people say it's going to be. But someday somebody's going to send out a release that's going to -- Bruins forward Phil Kessel. Undergoes completely botched surgery but I don't know but I've ever seen I don't think you'll ever see -- here. We're out we're happy to see that Phil Kessel underwent successful surgery in sorority here it's going to be out for along time.

So six months for castle and then straight she is going to be out for a long time to.

Maybe six months as well. Craig he told Joe Hagerty November. That day he doesn't expect to be able to play games until November. Each. Long time. It's it's completely off topic but I always look to you to answer these questions -- you know. I understand that you know yes spent 23 months since there you know your finances aren't quite what they used to be and everything about your.

Let me know why don't have a cousin named Anthony and he has a brother named Tony. Now that's when I. Went to that goes out. And ask about black America. A restart -- just hoping you think that Al Sharpton is like a Q okay America -- It's up I mean I understand -- probably a little tight everything but you can't scrape up enough money to buy a plane ticket from leavenworth Kansas to the Virginia. You gotta drive got to there's got to kind of resigned in 1900 miles to get home that's gotta be a real good reason for that don't you -- what. Now I -- my my understanding based on the stuff I've read there was a not refer traveling along with the the caravan made their way from Kansas to Virginia. This doesn't help knock down the cliches of Kansas being a backwater in the midwest what happened in airports in Kansas.

I'm me got to drive you know nineteen hours. In a caravan from Kansas back home to Virginia where you knew now you know begin your two months of home confinement but you couldn't get a plane.

I know I was a strange thing tomato they began the drive from Kansas. To Virginia ever driven through Kansas. Now be enough equipment in it gathers. Much -- terrible drug that. You know driving through a lot of those states in the midwest. It's it's awful I can't drive to Kansas. Is probably the second worst thing I've done no not third worst in the second horse to beat Nebraska. In the worst with the Iowa. And the worst -- while nevermind I have no comment about challenge on -- a there's just terrible but anyway but but you brought up Michael Vick and it's an interesting. Topic. Not for the patriots as has been theorized by John Clayton and Peter King but just what do you do with them. And if you're if you're franchise and you're in need of quarterback. Is do you go out and it is it your obligation. To. Bring in Michael Vick interview on and see where it's that is right now.

What I think's gonna happen and I think he's looking at an element that I believe he'll be suspended for the first four games of this upcoming season. I think that it is the NFL way of punishing. Michael Vick for lying to repeatedly. And more than one occasion he liked. Forget about the legal. Penalty -- now paid for what he sat office with the commissioner of the NFL applied to one and number vacations I think that will be punished probably suspended by four for four games. If you don't allow anybody even talked to a number sign until the suspension -- if if Peter's right not. While that able panel next year who's gonna bring an end in week five. You know a quarterback who don't know you systems are not errors and as a matter of somebody would think at that point. I I think if anyone had -- him in July. And you allow him to go to training camp would do well let's stop and and asserts its four game suspension.

They are completely disagree with that I'll give you an example of the team this is a bad team. Historically bad team that did just what you're saying. That a trend lines last year. On the defense threat but they but they brought -- but but you know what you gotta be a bad to if you advocate for Michael Vick. You don't have a quarterback you're desperate there if your interest in signing him and you wanted to play quarterback. You are by all accounts a bad football team that -- quarterback Michael. Listen I need to -- done a lot. That don't need -- break up with -- more cattle. And it brings up the Detmer I know I was so it's impressive and ultimately lost by ten point oh right well when he was the quarterback in the of Barry. Solid quarterback rating of around seventy. But now that they've -- Daunte Culpepper last year. He had -- and lay it Atlantic fuel. Our lord. But at the -- you're really interest in my eye on this if your interest in Michael Vick and you have a little bit.

And a security from an -- Your first year coach second year coach you don't have a quarterback and the owner says are we understand that 2009. We might win three games and I went four games. You bring in Vick. Put a month scholarship redshirt him. And then you bring them back for 2002 and he can hang around you can say look Michael it's been a blur. These past two years that you you've done time. You have been secured from coast to coast deservedly. You need to sit back in just think in meet your teammates and learn who these guys are learned this community maybe do some. Do some. Political work in this community not actual political work but a shake some hands and letting people know that you can actually smile on -- not a bad guy and that you do like dogs.

If you are bad guy and don't like OPEC's. I can see that happen. I do believe. He deserves a second I don't have an issue with and I can be banned from four LIN I I don't have an issue with you know he has paid his is one please. Almost finished almost is and it's that's why I have no issues that. I don't know that I want to play it from my football team that I have no problem is that -- I got a guy named Brady like I'd like to see on a regular basis. That's not my issue at all and and I do think he's he's likely going to be suspended for the first few games of the season. -- I was a little perplexed by Arthur blank statement yesterday saying you know we still have the contractual rights to Michael -- but he'll never play here. Were -- what you want from. Ali I I I read somewhere where the talking about well for six and a half million dollars Michael Vick and by his way to complete free agency. What's left from this guy that you want you know he's lost everything.

They're playing games with them. It's in I would think Arthur blank we'll continue to play these games and it looks like their turn in the situation around in Atlanta. They've moved on just fine without Michael Vick I don't know what their. What -- season ticket packages are like but sometimes a little in terms of winning games yeah Matt Ryan was great for our great one last went out they. I acquired Tony Gonzales. Let -- let the -- go to play free anymore it's.

Not like he's got six and a half million dollars he can give get a -- in his way to free agency here so Arthur blank needs to just you know you either say. We on his contract rights he's going to play for us we elect the man bill. And let somebody sign him as I said let him go to training camp. Let him let him learn a new offense or whatever it is he's going to do for this team whether it's going to be a quarterback Arab backed opera slash play I don't know what it's going to be. At and then let him sit out its four games like he probably going to have to do in gulf from the.

I really. I don't this is gonna sound like them. And -- and I'm not I have no idea what this prison experience with like what what you were allowed to do in prison. Can you can you watched. Game film prison. I I I honestly have no idea that you -- my guess would you watch TV or. Us is the 20% penalty at you know you got Internet access and print and VCRs. I don't know. You know all. Dvds. Laptops. -- libraries. It is to admit I don't know much about like dislike it worked so. Well I mean just any any prison right I'm sure. There are there prisoners who take classes. Who who do things the only thing and it's a pretty big thing is that nobody go anywhere. Your -- so I'm I'm sure since he was incarcerated if he wanted to be at a mine too. This study to study football. He could have done it.

And doubt about that. I was I was more wondering you know -- how the the ability -- the right. To work out I mean can work cars. -- little blow when I say ability and I mean I don't know what it for facilities at leavenworth I don't have no idea you know what's there and what isn't there. You know. It if you run it in a priest can create you know -- is a whole collapse around that an exercise yard. That's -- there is. There are adequate facilities there he wanted to work out I don't know. I mean what kind of shape -- he's not football shape obviously he's been away from the NFL for a couple of years. But you know what kind of physical condition is the end. Now these are all and I don't mean for me I'm talking about if you're an owner or GM in the National Football League and you're even thinking about bringing this guy and he's at things you can like and this.

Is what it in this is where I'm I'm slightly uncomfortable with that this whole Michael Vick thing as far as NFL and Roger Goodell concerned maybe if I met Roger Goodell. How would they accused as the prince of a guy and he'd he'd be one of my best friends in the world I doubt that but. I understand from -- There's something about a that's a little off putting. Okay. Michael Vick lied to you liked a lot of people lied to Arthur blank. He lied to his teammates and story lied to very close friends. Demanded 23 months in prison. So you're going to suspend. Michael Vick. For lying to you.

Yeah I did yeah. I'm not -- who cares they're apt to do there's a high horse and maybe you need to come down off of that a little bit now if you commissioner of the NFL and I bring in Adam Pacman Jones and I say okay Adam I know what you did. And am where -- and he sits there analyzed the -- which he did guess what it's gonna pay a price that. Which he did it. If you suspended Adam Pacman Jones for lying to the commissioner that was part of what is still.

Lied to the commissioner is after a 23 month prison sentence. Requires a four game suspension and an avid you don't think that's a little Sony and.

I really do think we're talking two different things here the 23 month sentence had nothing to do with lying to the commissioner. I know -- he broke the law and that's what his sentence was four and he paid the price for that now his separate issue is. Yeah he lied when the commentator talk -- on a number of occasions he flat out lie shore.

And and if you're lying you're probably gonna is gonna come -- going to come back to bite you understand. But.

Roger -- commissioner of the NFL. And if you really want to get to the into the nitty gritty there a lot of things going on in the NFL things that have happened with NFL players. That maybe aren't as salacious as the Michael Vick dog fighting story was. But there's some pretty bad characters. Who were in the National Football League now. And nobody says anything about it the commissioner doesn't say anything about they're bad people. And we know them. Leonard Little I think is that it's is despicable. I think Michael Pittman is despicable. There -- a lot of guys in the league. Who have done some things that. That will make your skin crawl. Yet they get this eight. There Michael Vick does time.

He does this time.

But he didn't it was time for this he -- it's time for -- melts. It is it's I think that Pacman Jones of Pacman Jones had been had been convicted. Of being involved in the paralysis of that bouncer at that club in Vegas he got a president that. Well if and when he got out of prison for that Benny have to face. The commissioner of the NF Allen and face whatever punishment the league had for his league discrepancy I.

The commissioner this is that I can be dead wrong and this and we'd love to have him Roger Goodell wants to come on the show -- them -- show justice it but. I get the sense that. A lot of people. Are taking advantage of the public sentiment. For Michael -- or against Michael that. The public. I had 80% of the people. Probably have no use for Michael. That do not all that's all okay though he has unpopular right now. For lack of a better phrase he's piling. Because he can't he's got the support it's almost as if if the people were for Michael Vick he might pick a different approach. But he knows people are against Michael Vick. He's in line to make himself look like he did that even before Michael Vick serve time by reading the self serving letter that he leaked. Or gave. To espn.com. And it's on there. You lied to me like you're teammate at this I read the commissioner's letter on espn.com. Excuse me. Please -- pick yourself a little to --

I don't I understand completely your. Your perspective on it but I disagree with you completely as well. He's got two separate issues here he's got an issue with law. And he's got an issue with well this is in -- technically at how right now but if he wants to be employed his employer. And they're two different things and and you can't lucky he spent two years in jail so Roger even though he liked via. On many occasions. He's already done enough.

How did you how do you handle what's the best way to handle -- from Michael Vick Americans ally in general because they're different lives different version right. Okay Michael Vick liked the commissioner is the -- I guess I'm asking a simple question is the best way to handle that lie before game suspension.

Actually I'm try to be lean on me -- I. The commissioner has every right to say you know Michael -- dummy like me right that's the best way to do a year suspension for game suspension -- why is that. Good way of dealing with the white Lama would not I don't adamant about it and I don't unfortunately. Not not -- or content and -- Products segment -- the only thing you know doing.

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By the first of all due respect there is no bigger joke than mining professional. I mean it just. Talk about got 22. Didn't want to hear what we -- is --

We can't get the hell is he -- you -- you just -- good cop bad cop on yourself you spoke out of two sides about. First you said he doesn't have the money. It's a big --

But -- any thing if you don't have my -- the fine don't mean failure can have about what to do not have want to punish a player you punish means the ability to play -- you can have a -- weight of the have money does not I don't know my guess is as virtually pocket the F virtually no money of finding something to.

They get money that's why it.

It -- don't have money money these telephone and he explained logic that he doesn't have money a fine. I don't know what kind of money that probably doesn't have money and it doesn't mean they know that based on what he's lost a hundred million dollars so. Why do you keep saying. A fine doesn't mean anything for somebody doesn't have any money because that makes sense -- my point Michael whine don't mean anything to players.

I don't. Stop suppliers don't.

It's all -- weren't really hurts now. Bynum did help if you got.

Five dollars and -- fine you fifty dollars. But out of your name. It means something to you.

Now if -- professor if you Michael Vick and didn't go to this whole legal situation and I find you 100000 dollars or buying the 15000 dollars. Well okay maybe. Maybe that what any better at the mentally and outs and I get from the team assigned port is going to make that a slap on the wrist but you're -- find a money regardless if you're finding import games just like him out of the -- what -- doing is taking what the thing that matters most. Maybe maybe. Most you know it's not a professional athlete to buy its way out of more trouble. Money you're. Like it. Takes money out as well it's more than doing something wrong little more than. And the commissioner. Okay so that if you lied to the commissioner that equates to a four why -- 12 -- we're not a game while. I I think why do -- I'm looking lenient pricing war so I -- commissioner has the right to suspend him three year I think that's -- only lied to the commissioner. You get a four game suspend Pacman. What was his initial when when commissioner suspended I don't know that's why the commissioners this year.

Commissioner didn't suspend him for lying to on the commissioner suspended him. For his conduct that was detrimental to the to the Contra detrimental to the team to the league. So on and so forth it didn't have find a guy or going to suspend the guy suspend him for lying to you you can't lie to me Roger Goodell no one.

I think it might leak and this is not a personal thing you're making it sound it's short personally called -- and and asks do you stopping sit lied about it yet. Not happens to be dealt with it.

Australia we agree on that we agree on. It's not good business obviously to lie to your boss in this case the big boss the commissioner of the -- What we disagree on is lying. Should turn into a four game suspension. OK so Michael Vick you know he he he just did time but not need to spend a little more time thinking. Why it's a bad idea alive to me Roger -- For more games. And your case you think you'll be on any.

I am being lenient I. -- Pacman Jones and and I think that's too harsh.

Are you an underworld what eight games this is fine for Michael Vick an eight game suspension -- I think -- mine. I think the commissioner could suspend him for a year. But I don't think I think on top of every.

I think it's I think it's bad it's bad management. If he would -- if he's got to go with the paint by numbers he lied to -- airport. He needs to. Be suspended for four games a good manager in my opinion. Wilson and now. What wartime come talk to meet face to face to -- not -- to me about your experience. How we're gonna look within two hours. Why did you tell me this story a couple of years ago what did you think about that. Have a real conversation with them and make your decision from there now maybe after that conversation he says I should be -- NFL. He hasn't changed that at the same young -- talk to two years ago or maybe he'll say let this kid deserves a break. He did two years the time he he worked forty hours a week and at ten dollars an hour and his construction job. He is humbled himself. I'm going to fine them I'm going to suspend him for game I'm going to be watching him he's on NFL probation whatever it is and you go from there I just think. It is too easy to say he lied to me. Four game suspension.

So we agree should be punished you just disagree on on the length of it.

Or the type of punishment we just oral or suspend him or could be on this thing. Conversation with it suggests that he would do without Michael. It's not futurists. Tech knowledge you'd think you'd just told me. Yes. Right this is not a right. A year suspension would be out of bounds -- I think it would be set for games I said he as suspended a player for a year. Lying to among other things but he has suspended.

This this would not be out of the realm of possibility. Based on recent history this commissioner eight play and -- it would be too harsh. I'm packet back and Jones and doing time either that -- It anytime -- know pretty cut it can it. In this case Michael Vick was tried convicted punished sent to prison. But what it was sent president -- had nothing to do with what he was doing with the commissioner.